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Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

It’s not just that mate .
We had 40 sets compared to there 26
It’s what Brooks doesn’t do when we have the ball in the opposition 20-30 meter zone ..
It’s chook lotto mate ..

I’ll give you that the hand off to Twal on the fourth does my head in . I’m raging too. But we scored 28 points mate, at the end of the day it’s the guys that are lazy or just plain bad at defence that are killing us, and that’s not brooks.

The poor kicking game also puts us on the back foot ..
Hospital passes also put us on the back foot..

I thought Doueihi played well but he actually did most of the kicking, a lot of it quite ordinary

I forgot about that hospital pass, it was bad especially when it was old mate flipper hands
 
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Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

Yeah they did, Brooks couldn't even find the gap. Laurie was the best player on the field by a long way.
 
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@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357497) said:
Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

?‍♂️

They are learning there trade..
Brooks is supposed to be a qualified TRADIE !
I’d love Fogarty in our side .
 
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357544) said:
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@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357522) said:
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@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357497) said:
Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

It’s not just that mate .
We had 40 sets compared to there 26
It’s what Brooks doesn’t do when we have the ball in the opposition 20-30 meter zone ..
It’s chook lotto mate ..

I’ll give you that the hand off to Twal on the fourth does my head in . I’m raging too. But we scored 28 points mate, at the end of the day it’s the guys that are lazy or just plain bad at defence that are killing us, and that’s not brooks.

The poor kicking game also puts us on the back foot ..
Hospital passes also put us on the back foot..

I thought Doueihi played well but he actually did most of the kicking, a lot of it quite ordinary

I forgot about that hospital pass, it was bad especially when it was old mate flipper hands

Yeah his kicking game really was off tonight, it did not hit one of his floater bombs well.
 
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@celtic_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357529) said:
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@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357497) said:
Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

?‍♂️

They are learning there trade..
Brooks is supposed to be a qualified TRADIE !
I’d love Fogarty in our side .

The speed at which he played was very telling when compared to our team. The Titans really hit the advantage line with speed in all they do. It is a major flaw in our game, we do everything at half pace.
 
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@celtic_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357529) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357524) said:
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@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357497) said:
Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

Yeah they did, Brooks couldn't even find the gap. Laurie was the best player on the field by a long way.

Agree, Laurie and AD are streets ahead of our other players at the moment. I just think LB is copping plenty on here for his poor options/attack when it’s really our poor defence costing us dearly. And it’s on the other side of the field. Look I’m at a point where I hope they pick Madden next week as it might actually prove my point.
 
@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357552) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357549) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357543) said:
@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357536) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357529) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357524) said:
@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357522) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357515) said:
@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357497) said:
Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

?‍♂️

They are learning there trade..
Brooks is supposed to be a qualified TRADIE !
I’d love Fogarty in our side .

The speed at which he played was very telling when compared to our team. The Titans really hit the advantage line with speed in all they do. It is a major floor in our game, we do everything at half pace.

First set after half time we decided to play up tempo which almost lead to a try. No idea why we can’t do that for longer periods.
 
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@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357536) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357529) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357524) said:
@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357522) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357515) said:
@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357497) said:
Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

Yeah they did, Brooks couldn't even find the gap. Laurie was the best player on the field by a long way.

Agree, Laurie and AD are streets ahead of our other players at the moment. I just think LB is copping plenty on here for his poor options/attack when it’s really our poor defence costing us dearly. And it’s on the other side of the field. Look I’m at a point where I hope they pick Madden next week as it might actually prove my point.

It 100% is our poor defence costing us, but it is a bigger issue, it is lack of intent all over the park. We need to run harder and hit harder, do things at quicker speed.

The 1st set after half time is how we need to play, run the ball hard attack with speed, that is how you win in the modern game.

But yes having people that could even mark up properly in defence would go a long way as well.
 
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Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

?‍♂️

They are learning there trade..
Brooks is supposed to be a qualified TRADIE !
I’d love Fogarty in our side .

The speed at which he played was very telling when compared to our team. The Titans really hit the advantage line with speed in all they do. It is a major floor in our game, we do everything at half pace.

First set after half time we decided to play up tempo which almost lead to a try. No idea why we can’t do that for longer periods.

Jinx
 
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Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

Yeah they did, Brooks couldn't even find the gap. Laurie was the best player on the field by a long way.

Agree, Laurie and AD are streets ahead of our other players at the moment. I just think LB is copping plenty on here for his poor options/attack when it’s really our poor defence costing us dearly. And it’s on the other side of the field. Look I’m at a point where I hope they pick Madden next week as it might actually prove my point.

It 100% is our poor defence costing us, but it is a bigger issue, it is lack of intent all over the park. We need to run harder and hit harder, do things at quicker speed.

The 1st set after half time is how we need to play, run the ball hard attack with speed, that is how you win in the modern game.

But yes having people that could even mark up properly in defence would go a long way as well.

I remember we exchanged blows over the Noffa contract, I’m prepared to concede you were right, he’s not a consistent NRL player
 
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Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

Yeah they did, Brooks couldn't even find the gap. Laurie was the best player on the field by a long way.

Agree, Laurie and AD are streets ahead of our other players at the moment. I just think LB is copping plenty on here for his poor options/attack when it’s really our poor defence costing us dearly. And it’s on the other side of the field. Look I’m at a point where I hope they pick Madden next week as it might actually prove my point.

It 100% is our poor defence costing us, but it is a bigger issue, it is lack of intent all over the park. We need to run harder and hit harder, do things at quicker speed.

The 1st set after half time is how we need to play, run the ball hard attack with speed, that is how you win in the modern game.

But yes having people that could even mark up properly in defence would go a long way as well.

I remember we exchanged blows over the Noffa contract, I’m prepared to concede you were right, he’s not a consistent NRL player

It was just too long mate, and his asking point too high for a guy that really struggles in defence. It was good to see him running hard tonight though. He was at least switched on tonight, still terrible in defence but that has been there to see for a number of years so we shouldn't really expect any difference.
 
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Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

Yeah they did, Brooks couldn't even find the gap. Laurie was the best player on the field by a long way.

Agree, Laurie and AD are streets ahead of our other players at the moment. I just think LB is copping plenty on here for his poor options/attack when it’s really our poor defence costing us dearly. And it’s on the other side of the field. Look I’m at a point where I hope they pick Madden next week as it might actually prove my point.

It 100% is our poor defence costing us, but it is a bigger issue, it is lack of intent all over the park. We need to run harder and hit harder, do things at quicker speed.

The 1st set after half time is how we need to play, run the ball hard attack with speed, that is how you win in the modern game.

But yes having people that could even mark up properly in defence would go a long way as well.

I remember we exchanged blows over the Noffa contract, I’m prepared to concede you were right, he’s not a consistent NRL player

It was just too long mate, and his asking point too high for a guy that really struggles in defence. It was good to see him running hard tonight though. He was at least switched on tonight, still terrible in defence but that has been there to see for a number of years so we shouldn't really expect any difference.

I suspect he copped a half time spray
 
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Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

But but Doueihi and Laurie both punted kicks way dead too, also killed momentum, where’s there bashing threads?

Yeah they did, Brooks couldn't even find the gap. Laurie was the best player on the field by a long way.

Agree, Laurie and AD are streets ahead of our other players at the moment. I just think LB is copping plenty on here for his poor options/attack when it’s really our poor defence costing us dearly. And it’s on the other side of the field. Look I’m at a point where I hope they pick Madden next week as it might actually prove my point.

It 100% is our poor defence costing us, but it is a bigger issue, it is lack of intent all over the park. We need to run harder and hit harder, do things at quicker speed.

The 1st set after half time is how we need to play, run the ball hard attack with speed, that is how you win in the modern game.

But yes having people that could even mark up properly in defence would go a long way as well.

I remember we exchanged blows over the Noffa contract, I’m prepared to concede you were right, he’s not a consistent NRL player

It was just too long mate, and his asking point too high for a guy that really struggles in defence. It was good to see him running hard tonight though. He was at least switched on tonight, still terrible in defence but that has been there to see for a number of years so we shouldn't really expect any difference.

I suspect he copped a half time spray

Yeah there was a big turn around after half time, it was still only he and Mikele running with any real vigour.
 
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Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

Nope some guys are . That’s why people are bunkering down and picking sides . It’s like all rational thought is out the window . I got accused of Blaming AD to protect brooks because I dared say that our right side defence was beyond dismal . After saying I thought brooks was invisible tonight .

Seriously , I just want to win , and AD is a straight path to wins if he defends like he did last week .
Brooks just needs to be solid , and that should be enough, until we find someone better , or that’s the choice next to AD and we roll with it .
But AD can’t mark up and neither can Luci . It’s beyond a joke now.
 
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Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.


***THAT*** was the momentum turner?

Not minutes 8-12 where they scored 18 points in 5 minutes in three sets?
 
Every week it’s constant brooks bashing and he hasn’t lost us a game this year.. 6 out of 8 games we have leaked 30+ points and we want to blame our halfback who’s got the tackle efficiency of over 86%


Everyone saying Laurie and Adam look dangerous I agree, but the simple fact is brooks is the one leading try assists, clearly he is setting up tries!

I was at the game today, both teams had similar tactics in regards to kicking, titans where better for 2 reasons, they where on the front foot for most of the game and reason 2 they CHASED constantly put our wingers or Laurie under pressure. The amount of times I saw our edges jogging to the winger was embarrassing, no pressure and the winger makes 5-10m for tackle 1.

Another thing is I saw brooks try to tell his edge what to do before a play and they completely mucked it up. He even had a word to them, all this brooks can’t control the game stuff, perhaps the fact we have a young side can cause issues like this, the amount of times brooks was looking for someone to run a angle or push up, this forces him to run side ways.


Look in no way am I saying he’s perfect, he definitely needs to improve! But he’s not even close to our problem. I would say he’s performing well above a Usual halfback in a team that’s coming 15th. Try assists and tackle efficiency shows that.
 
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@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357536) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357529) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357524) said:
@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357522) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357515) said:
@lukic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357497) said:
Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.


***THAT*** was the momentum turner?

Not minutes 8-12 where they scored 18 points in 5 minutes in three sets?

You do understand the difference between the words 'a' and 'the' ?
 
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357246) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357198) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357184) said:
He's got zero confidence and is a liability out there.

Madden is probably not the answer right now, but he's got potential to one day be it. No point watching Brooks make the same mistakes over and over again.

I hope he picks madden so when we concede over 30 and lose and you all have no scapegoat

And if Madden slays it ?
Will you concede ?

I hope Madden slays it. But I’m not as confident in his abilities as many others are.
 
@tcl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357622) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357246) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357198) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357184) said:
He's got zero confidence and is a liability out there.

Madden is probably not the answer right now, but he's got potential to one day be it. No point watching Brooks make the same mistakes over and over again.

I hope he picks madden so when we concede over 30 and lose and you all have no scapegoat

And if Madden slays it ?
Will you concede ?

I hope Madden slays it. But I’m not as confident in his abilities as many others are.

I wouldn’t bring in Madden atm. This team in this headspace? They’d completely ruin Maddens future
 
@tcl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357622) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357246) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357198) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1357184) said:
He's got zero confidence and is a liability out there.

Madden is probably not the answer right now, but he's got potential to one day be it. No point watching Brooks make the same mistakes over and over again.

I hope he picks madden so when we concede over 30 and lose and you all have no scapegoat

And if Madden slays it ?
Will you concede ?

I hope Madden slays it. But I’m not as confident in his abilities as many others are.


Madden would undoubtedly try but he wont fix our main problems. The 2 problems are mainly our poor attitude in defence and not adjusting quickly enough when something goes wrong.That is all a mental problem.We saw it last night because as soon as Cini dropped the high ball our composure was under 7s standard and they basically watched the opposition score 18 points quickly.We are not good enough to give starts like that.
We have mentally weak players and it shows each and every week.
 
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