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We also lost a total of 36 TRY causes from the 2021 squad..we start in the black
 
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im not blaming Brooks ...but we lost 22 try assists this year ......he has to have a huge year in 2020

So do heaps of players. If Brooks hasn't been able to put consistent seasons in what about Mikaele, Twal, Stefano, Packer, Musgrove, Ofahengaue, Blore and Stefano. Can you imagine how poor we will be if a bunch of these guys don't perform way above the level they have performed in the past.

If we have an ineffective front row we are not going to have a good season.

maybe that will be Brooks' fault too??

That is what I'm trying to say. Brooks needs to play well. He has the ability. He has played well in the past. He wasn't good last season and sure he hasn't really turned into a top 5 half in the comp but I don't think he is the sole reason for us winning or losing.

I mean all we can do is see how we go. We need so many players to perform. What about our outside backs. We need BJ, Roberts, Talau, Nofo and Kepoao to perform consistently. We need at this point Mbye to kill it at fullback.

Interesting season. I reckon getting this team to perform over the season isn't going to be easy.

totally agree with this.
 
@sleeve said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281334) said:
Imagine Madge last year taking Easts for example.Settinng his defence against the Roosters ,Teddy,Keary,Manu,Cordner ,Morris bros etc -all dangerous.Easts defence looks at tigers,-Brooks,Harry,Benji,no fullback,slow backs ,the pressure on Brooks and Benji was huge.

No fullback ... made me lol
 
We might make the eight , but will never get further without strike players.Top side have 13 who can cause the opposition problems.We need at least another 3 or 4 strike players.FB,1/2,OR 5/8,CENTRE,AND WINGER,to get serious At the present time our forwards look good ,but our backs are easily shut down.
 
The only threat the tigers gave to opposing sides was Brooks,and they knew how to shut him down,the rest of the backs were of little concern.
 
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable

You can't dummy and run with the opposition sitting on your shoulder. A good DH makes all the difference.

Hence the win against Manly at Brookvale this year.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281320) said:
sorry Russ ...its not Under 7s where you give it tok the quickest bloke on the field and he circles them

Disagree - I did not say give it to the quickest bloke.

If you can't see that the team benefits (in particular the play makers) with a quick PTB and then a quick pass from DH then your expertise has gone down in my estimation.
 
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable

You can't dummy and run with the opposition sitting on your shoulder. A good DH makes all the difference.

Hence the win against Manly at Brookvale this year.

You can’t run the ball 95% of the time like he did this year. It’s his strongest attribute but you need to try keep the opposition guessing good service or not. I just think he was told to run but did it too much, needed to use his outside men more too especially Luciano as he’s such a threat close to the line.

Think he’ll improve next year though for sure.
 
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable

You can't dummy and run with the opposition sitting on your shoulder. A good DH makes all the difference.

Hence the win against Manly at Brookvale this year.

You can’t run the ball 95% of the time like he did this year. It’s his strongest attribute but you need to try keep the opposition guessing good service or not. I just think he was told to run but did it too much, needed to use his outside men more too especially Luciano as he’s such a threat close to the line.

Think he’ll improve next year though for sure.

I think, most of the time he had to run because the ball was slow from DH, if he passed - it would be a "hospital pass" to whoever and would get the recipient flattened, so he ran a lot, not necessarily because he wanted to.

I'll be happy to watch in 2021 and see the difference, because there will be quite a differnce to 2020.
 
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable

You can't dummy and run with the opposition sitting on your shoulder. A good DH makes all the difference.

Hence the win against Manly at Brookvale this year.

You can’t run the ball 95% of the time like he did this year. It’s his strongest attribute but you need to try keep the opposition guessing good service or not. I just think he was told to run but did it too much, needed to use his outside men more too especially Luciano as he’s such a threat close to the line.

Think he’ll improve next year though for sure.

I think, most of the time he had to run because the ball was slow from DH, if he passed - it would be a "hospital pass" to whoever and would get the recipient flattened, so he ran a lot, not necessarily because he wanted to.

I'll be happy to watch in 2021 and see the difference, because there will be quite a differnce to 2020.

Maybe Sometimes but he was down on confidence and just went to what he knows best which is running. He will need to have more variety to his game next year, having a better forward pack behind him should help more than anything. It’s not like Harry has bad service, he’s got good passing.
 
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@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281320) said:
sorry Russ ...its not Under 7s where you give it tok the quickest bloke on the field and he circles them

Disagree - I did not say give it to the quickest bloke.

If you can't see that the team benefits (in particular the play makers) with a quick PTB and then a quick pass from DH then your expertise has gone down in my estimation.

Not arguing that at all ...but getting quick ball when it isnt on is a waste

as one of my posts said ..if it is on ...hell yeah ...but most yries need to be createx
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281309) said:
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.


early ball is ovet rated ...you put the ball where a hole is and it is 6 times more effective


early ball at a set defence is a waste. As soon as there is a break, tackle bust or offset and the outside backs shoulders turn in.........get it out to fast threequarters.
 
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@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable

You can't dummy and run with the opposition sitting on your shoulder. A good DH makes all the difference.

Hence the win against Manly at Brookvale this year.

You can’t run the ball 95% of the time like he did this year. It’s his strongest attribute but you need to try keep the opposition guessing good service or not. I just think he was told to run but did it too much, needed to use his outside men more too especially Luciano as he’s such a threat close to the line.

Think he’ll improve next year though for sure.

I think, most of the time he had to run because the ball was slow from DH, if he passed - it would be a "hospital pass" to whoever and would get the recipient flattened, so he ran a lot, not necessarily because he wanted to.

I'll be happy to watch in 2021 and see the difference, because there will be quite a differnce to 2020.

Maybe Sometimes but he was down on confidence and just went to what he knows best which is running. He will need to have more variety to his game next year, having a better forward pack behind him should help more than anything. It’s not like Harry has bad service, he’s got good passing.

As a dummy half (waiting to be jumped on from a great height) Grant is nowhere near as good as Liddle.

Grant has some fine attributes obviously, so too does B. Smith - I am at this stage only talking about service from DH and speed from DH when running - that's what will help Brooks as opposed to this year.
 
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@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.


early ball is ovet rated ...you put the ball where a hole is and it is 6 times more effective


early ball at a set defence is a waste. As soon as there is a break, tackle bust or offset and the outside backs shoulders turn in.........get it out to fast threequarters.

you still need a brain in your halves ...hooker ...fullback who can a defender to make a defensive mistake
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281316) said:
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@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281293) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.


early ball is ovet rated ...you put the ball where a hole is and it is 6 times more effective

There is NO hole if there is no early ball!

There will be plenty of early ball for Brooks and AD with Liddle at DH - sit back and watch Hap.

A good half centre pairing create space .....Kevie and Renouf are a great example .....it literally takes minor adjustment ....altering your run from an inside shoulder to an outsidr shoulder .....creating mumbers with wrap arounds

if nothing is on you turn your centre into fresh meat if you give them early ball

if something is on ...hell yeah ..but most occasions you have to create space

So Kevie & Renouf are the example? Really? So how does our pack compare to Campion, Tonie Carroll, Petero, Webke, Andrew Gee, Tallis, Brad Thorn, Luke Priddis etc etc. Oh, and Langer at half to help with that.

Gotta have forwards rolling forward before that happens.
 
@Russell said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281383) said:
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@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281293) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable

You can't dummy and run with the opposition sitting on your shoulder. A good DH makes all the difference.

Hence the win against Manly at Brookvale this year.

You can’t run the ball 95% of the time like he did this year. It’s his strongest attribute but you need to try keep the opposition guessing good service or not. I just think he was told to run but did it too much, needed to use his outside men more too especially Luciano as he’s such a threat close to the line.

Think he’ll improve next year though for sure.

I think, most of the time he had to run because the ball was slow from DH, if he passed - it would be a "hospital pass" to whoever and would get the recipient flattened, so he ran a lot, not necessarily because he wanted to.

I'll be happy to watch in 2021 and see the difference, because there will be quite a differnce to 2020.

Maybe Sometimes but he was down on confidence and just went to what he knows best which is running. He will need to have more variety to his game next year, having a better forward pack behind him should help more than anything. It’s not like Harry has bad service, he’s got good passing.

As a dummy half (waiting to be jumped on from a great height) Grant is nowhere near as good as Liddle.

Grant has some fine attributes obviously, so too does B. Smith - I am at this stage only talking about service from DH and speed from DH when running - that's what will help Brooks as opposed to this year.

Either way Brooks needs a better year. No excuses at all now, he was poor this year. Would be pretty hard not to improve off 3 try assists that’s for sure
 
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable

You can't dummy and run with the opposition sitting on your shoulder. A good DH makes all the difference.

Hence the win against Manly at Brookvale this year.

You can’t run the ball 95% of the time like he did this year. It’s his strongest attribute but you need to try keep the opposition guessing good service or not. I just think he was told to run but did it too much, needed to use his outside men more too especially Luciano as he’s such a threat close to the line.

Think he’ll improve next year though for sure.

I think, most of the time he had to run because the ball was slow from DH, if he passed - it would be a "hospital pass" to whoever and would get the recipient flattened, so he ran a lot, not necessarily because he wanted to.

I'll be happy to watch in 2021 and see the difference, because there will be quite a differnce to 2020.

Maybe Sometimes but he was down on confidence and just went to what he knows best which is running. He will need to have more variety to his game next year, having a better forward pack behind him should help more than anything. It’s not like Harry has bad service, he’s got good passing.

As a dummy half (waiting to be jumped on from a great height) Grant is nowhere near as good as Liddle.

Grant has some fine attributes obviously, so too does B. Smith - I am at this stage only talking about service from DH and speed from DH when running - that's what will help Brooks as opposed to this year.

Either way Brooks needs a better year. No excuses at all now, he was poor this year. Would be pretty hard not to improve off 3 try assists that’s for sure

We need him to improve along with 90% of the team.
 
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable

You can't dummy and run with the opposition sitting on your shoulder. A good DH makes all the difference.

Hence the win against Manly at Brookvale this year.

You can’t run the ball 95% of the time like he did this year. It’s his strongest attribute but you need to try keep the opposition guessing good service or not. I just think he was told to run but did it too much, needed to use his outside men more too especially Luciano as he’s such a threat close to the line.

Think he’ll improve next year though for sure.

I think, most of the time he had to run because the ball was slow from DH, if he passed - it would be a "hospital pass" to whoever and would get the recipient flattened, so he ran a lot, not necessarily because he wanted to.

I'll be happy to watch in 2021 and see the difference, because there will be quite a differnce to 2020.

Maybe Sometimes but he was down on confidence and just went to what he knows best which is running. He will need to have more variety to his game next year, having a better forward pack behind him should help more than anything. It’s not like Harry has bad service, he’s got good passing.

As a dummy half (waiting to be jumped on from a great height) Grant is nowhere near as good as Liddle.

Grant has some fine attributes obviously, so too does B. Smith - I am at this stage only talking about service from DH and speed from DH when running - that's what will help Brooks as opposed to this year.

Either way Brooks needs a better year. No excuses at all now, he was poor this year. Would be pretty hard not to improve off 3 try assists that’s for sure

We need him to improve along with 90% of the team.

Definitely, there’s plenty of guys who have a lot of room for improvement
 
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable

You can't dummy and run with the opposition sitting on your shoulder. A good DH makes all the difference.

Hence the win against Manly at Brookvale this year.

You can’t run the ball 95% of the time like he did this year. It’s his strongest attribute but you need to try keep the opposition guessing good service or not. I just think he was told to run but did it too much, needed to use his outside men more too especially Luciano as he’s such a threat close to the line.

Think he’ll improve next year though for sure.

I think, most of the time he had to run because the ball was slow from DH, if he passed - it would be a "hospital pass" to whoever and would get the recipient flattened, so he ran a lot, not necessarily because he wanted to.

I'll be happy to watch in 2021 and see the difference, because there will be quite a differnce to 2020.

Maybe Sometimes but he was down on confidence and just went to what he knows best which is running. He will need to have more variety to his game next year, having a better forward pack behind him should help more than anything. It’s not like Harry has bad service, he’s got good passing.

As a dummy half (waiting to be jumped on from a great height) Grant is nowhere near as good as Liddle.

Grant has some fine attributes obviously, so too does B. Smith - I am at this stage only talking about service from DH and speed from DH when running - that's what will help Brooks as opposed to this year.

Either way Brooks needs a better year. No excuses at all now, he was poor this year. Would be pretty hard not to improve off 3 try assists that’s for sure



Hang on, hang on. I just want to make sure Ive understood the general tone of this thread.

Am I understanding this thread correctly? If I read this thread properly, Luke Brooks needs to have a better season next year and perform better?

Just want to make sure that Ive understood the preceding 30 pages properly...
 
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