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Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

I don't believe this. The whole team has to perform.

agree. forwards don't perform then he can't get the platform for the backs. backs don't do their dirty hit ups then the forwards do more work.

You need everyone to get you going forward and you need everyone to dent the line including the halves. Then we need to come up with good options late in the tackle count.

so what your both saying that if Brooks has another season like 2020 without Grant or Benji we can still make the 8

your both ddreamibg

yup I stand by it.

Brooks wouldn't have been better with a stronger forward pack? With pace in the backs? He sure would've been. Our team was substandard last year, but it seems it all came down to Brooks....
 
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Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

I don't believe this. The whole team has to perform.

agree. forwards don't perform then he can't get the platform for the backs. backs don't do their dirty hit ups then the forwards do more work.

You need everyone to get you going forward and you need everyone to dent the line including the halves. Then we need to come up with good options late in the tackle count.

so what your both saying that if Brooks has another season like 2020 without Grant or Benji we can still make the 8

your both ddreamibg

It will be all on Doueihi’s shoulders just like it’s been for every other half Brooks has been partnered with .
#notbrooksfault
 
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Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

I don't believe this. The whole team has to perform.

agree. forwards don't perform then he can't get the platform for the backs. backs don't do their dirty hit ups then the forwards do more work.

You need everyone to get you going forward and you need everyone to dent the line including the halves. Then we need to come up with good options late in the tackle count.

so what your both saying that if Brooks has another season like 2020 without Grant or Benji we can still make the 8

your both ddreamibg

yup I stand by it.

Brooks wouldn't have been better with a stronger forward pack? With pace in the backs? He sure would've been. Our team was substandard last year, but it seems it all came down to Brooks....

Brooks doesnt have a halfback of yhe year season and we dont make the 8 in 2021
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

But please no dummies. No one falls for it.
 
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281293) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.
 
@Russell said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281308) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281293) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.


early ball is ovet rated ...you put the ball where a hole is and it is 6 times more effective
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281309) said:
@Russell said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281308) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281293) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.


early ball is ovet rated ...you put the ball where a hole is and it is 6 times more effective

Fat fingers?
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281309) said:
@Russell said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281308) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281293) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.


early ball is ovet rated ...you put the ball where a hole is and it is 6 times more effective

There is NO hole if there is no early ball!

There will be plenty of early ball for Brooks and AD with Liddle at DH - sit back and watch Hap.
 
@Russell said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281314) said:
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.


early ball is ovet rated ...you put the ball where a hole is and it is 6 times more effective

There is NO hole if there is no early ball!

There will be plenty of early ball for Brooks and AD with Liddle at DH - sit back and watch Hap.

A good half centre pairing create space .....Kevie and Renouf are a great example .....it literally takes minor adjustment ....altering your run from an inside shoulder to an outsidr shoulder .....creating mumbers with wrap arounds

if nothing is on you turn your centre into fresh meat if you give them early ball

if something is on ...hell yeah ..but most occasions you have to create space
 
@Russell said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281314) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281309) said:
@Russell said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281308) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281293) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.


early ball is ovet rated ...you put the ball where a hole is and it is 6 times more effective

There is NO hole if there is no early ball!

There will be plenty of early ball for Brooks and AD with Liddle at DH - sit back and watch Hap.

exactly ...so like 80 percent of the time you need to create it
 
i know the Roosters arent a great example because we are a million miles off them .....but they just pump numbers through holes and the half picks the best option

its a real simple game sometimes ....keep it that way
 
@Russell said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281308) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281293) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281290) said:
@JC99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281286) said:
If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.

Plenty of times he had plenty of room and made the wrong decisions. Teams are expecting the dummy and run, they’ve watched plenty of video on him. Having more room consistently will help though as long as he takes advantage of it and isn’t so predictable
 
The side was young and inexperienced,we had no grunt in the forwards.JR had little game time to get his game together,Benji was good in patches but suspect in defence.We had no forward leader,no inspiring captain,no fullback,and at times showed abilty against good sides ,this was a good result finishing where we did.Our backs did not perform as well,and cosidering most of them would not make another 1st grade side were ok.Our forwards this next year look great,with just a few moe signings we look good.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281306) said:
im not blaming Brooks ...but we lost 22 try assists this year ......he has to have a huge year in 2020

So do heaps of players. If Brooks hasn't been able to put consistent seasons in what about Mikaele, Twal, Stefano, Packer, Musgrove, Ofahengaue, Blore and Stefano. Can you imagine how poor we will be if a bunch of these guys don't perform way above the level they have performed in the past.

If we have an ineffective front row we are not going to have a good season.
 
@Earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281328) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281306) said:
im not blaming Brooks ...but we lost 22 try assists this year ......he has to have a huge year in 2020

So do heaps of players. If Brooks hasn't been able to put consistent seasons in what about Mikaele, Twal, Stefano, Packer, Musgrove, Ofahengaue, Blore and Stefano. Can you imagine how poor we will be if a bunch of these guys don't perform way above the level they have performed in the past.

If we have an ineffective front row we are not going to have a good season.

maybe that will be Brooks' fault too??
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281321) said:
i know the Roosters arent a great example because we are a million miles off them .....but they just pump numbers through holes and the half picks the best option

its a real simple game sometimes ....keep it that way

I agree with this. Somehow we just have to execute better next year.
 
@OzLuke said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281329) said:
@Earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281328) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1281306) said:
im not blaming Brooks ...but we lost 22 try assists this year ......he has to have a huge year in 2020

So do heaps of players. If Brooks hasn't been able to put consistent seasons in what about Mikaele, Twal, Stefano, Packer, Musgrove, Ofahengaue, Blore and Stefano. Can you imagine how poor we will be if a bunch of these guys don't perform way above the level they have performed in the past.

If we have an ineffective front row we are not going to have a good season.

maybe that will be Brooks' fault too??

That is what I'm trying to say. Brooks needs to play well. He has the ability. He has played well in the past. He wasn't good last season and sure he hasn't really turned into a top 5 half in the comp but I don't think he is the sole reason for us winning or losing.

I mean all we can do is see how we go. We need so many players to perform. What about our outside backs. We need BJ, Roberts, Talau, Nofo and Kepoao to perform consistently. We need at this point Mbye to kill it at fullback.

Interesting season. I reckon getting this team to perform over the season isn't going to be easy.
 
Imagine Madge last year taking Easts for example.Settinng his defence against the Roosters ,Teddy,Keary,Manu,Cordner ,Morris bros etc -all dangerous.Easts defence looks at tigers,-Brooks,Harry,Benji,no fullback,slow backs ,the pressure on Brooks and Benji was huge.
 
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