Luke Brooks

[Geo]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

I completely disagree with this idea. I reckon Grant went to Benji more but mainly because Benji was probably the most creative half in the comp last year. He was creating stuff left, right and centre.

The problem with Benji is that he was woefully inconsistent throughout the game. His defense was terrible. He came up with heaps of poor options.

Brooks also didn't play poorly because Benji over played him.

I reckon him and Douiehi in the halves can work.

He might be the more creative - however when Brooks had the overlap etc. it was the Legend that bombed the try by overcalling Brooks and in that instance he was non creative one and went against the game plan.

Brooks was awful in 2020 because he played bad - he was in awful form all year. 3 try assists and 2 of those were in one of the last games of the season (the other one being his first game).

The ball went to Benji more because he was more likely to do something with it. Even in the last game when Benji went off it was AD that stepped up and he hadn't played in the halves all year.

Don't get me wrong i'm extremely happy Benji is going but blaming him for everything is ridiculous.

So true ..
It’s always someone else’s fault
Brooks / Moses .. Moses sucked
Brooks / Benji ..Benji sucked
Brooks / Reynolds ... Reynolds sucked
Farah was a ball hog
Grant was a ball hog
2021 it’s Doueihi’s fault
Have I missed anyone?



Nailed it!

And until he proves otherwise this is the ledger of Luke Brooks.

He can definitely play a role this season but just how strong a grip of the number 7 he has comes down to the man himself.

No more excuses.

Try him at 9, before it’s too late


So we push Liddle and Simpkin back to CC, that sounds like something Tim Sheens would do.
Go and take an aspirin and lay down.

Sorry, I didn’t realise you were the know it all of the WT’s, it’s an opinion, you are entitled to yours, but shove your condescending remarks where the sun doesn’t shine.

BTW many good halves have made the transition to become better 9’s, we need to have the best players on the park, just not your your favourites.

So what sort of message does that send to JL JS.

Jack Littlejohn..?

 

[Blake]

Grant got bamboozled by the legend , and the low percentage magic…

One criticism of Grant is that he nearly always ran himself on a quick play the ball. He had a brilliant year but there were times where it would have been better to pass to a half and not just attack the middle.

 

[avocadoontoast]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

I completely disagree with this idea. I reckon Grant went to Benji more but mainly because Benji was probably the most creative half in the comp last year. He was creating stuff left, right and centre.

The problem with Benji is that he was woefully inconsistent throughout the game. His defense was terrible. He came up with heaps of poor options.

Brooks also didn't play poorly because Benji over played him.

I reckon him and Douiehi in the halves can work.

He might be the more creative - however when Brooks had the overlap etc. it was the Legend that bombed the try by overcalling Brooks and in that instance he was non creative one and went against the game plan.

Brooks was awful in 2020 because he played bad - he was in awful form all year. 3 try assists and 2 of those were in one of the last games of the season (the other one being his first game).

The ball went to Benji more because he was more likely to do something with it. Even in the last game when Benji went off it was AD that stepped up and he hadn't played in the halves all year.

Don't get me wrong i'm extremely happy Benji is going but blaming him for everything is ridiculous.

So true ..
It’s always someone else’s fault
Brooks / Moses .. Moses sucked
Brooks / Benji ..Benji sucked
Brooks / Reynolds ... Reynolds sucked
Farah was a ball hog
Grant was a ball hog
2021 it’s Doueihi’s fault
Have I missed anyone?



Nailed it!

And until he proves otherwise this is the ledger of Luke Brooks.

He can definitely play a role this season but just how strong a grip of the number 7 he has comes down to the man himself.

No more excuses.

Try him at 9, before it’s too late


So we push Liddle and Simpkin back to CC, that sounds like something Tim Sheens would do.
Go and take an aspirin and lay down.

Sorry, I didn’t realise you were the know it all of the WT’s, it’s an opinion, you are entitled to yours, but shove your condescending remarks where the sun doesn’t shine.

BTW many good halves have made the transition to become better 9’s, we need to have the best players on the park, just not your your favourites.

So what sort of message does that send to JL JS.

Jack Littlejohn..?

Do you remember that game against Brisbane a few years back when Littlejohn and Rankin were our halves. Shocking.

 

[TigerWest]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

I completely disagree with this idea. I reckon Grant went to Benji more but mainly because Benji was probably the most creative half in the comp last year. He was creating stuff left, right and centre.

The problem with Benji is that he was woefully inconsistent throughout the game. His defense was terrible. He came up with heaps of poor options.

Brooks also didn't play poorly because Benji over played him.

I reckon him and Douiehi in the halves can work.

He might be the more creative - however when Brooks had the overlap etc. it was the Legend that bombed the try by overcalling Brooks and in that instance he was non creative one and went against the game plan.

Brooks was awful in 2020 because he played bad - he was in awful form all year. 3 try assists and 2 of those were in one of the last games of the season (the other one being his first game).

The ball went to Benji more because he was more likely to do something with it. Even in the last game when Benji went off it was AD that stepped up and he hadn't played in the halves all year.

Don't get me wrong i'm extremely happy Benji is going but blaming him for everything is ridiculous.

So true ..
It’s always someone else’s fault
Brooks / Moses .. Moses sucked
Brooks / Benji ..Benji sucked
Brooks / Reynolds ... Reynolds sucked
Farah was a ball hog
Grant was a ball hog
2021 it’s Doueihi’s fault
Have I missed anyone?



Nailed it!

And until he proves otherwise this is the ledger of Luke Brooks.

He can definitely play a role this season but just how strong a grip of the number 7 he has comes down to the man himself.

No more excuses.

Try him at 9, before it’s too late


So we push Liddle and Simpkin back to CC, that sounds like something Tim Sheens would do.
Go and take an aspirin and lay down.

Sorry, I didn’t realise you were the know it all of the WT’s, it’s an opinion, you are entitled to yours, but shove your condescending remarks where the sun doesn’t shine.

BTW many good halves have made the transition to become better 9’s, we need to have the best players on the park, just not your your favourites.

So what sort of message does that send to JL JS.

Same as it would if we chased and caught the Cheese?
What happens if Liddell breaks down again? Brooks if it worked may find his game, I don’t know, do you.

This is the premier league competition in the world, people come and go, I don’t think it’s rarely personal, in saying that, I did say try?

I think Simpkin (from all reports) could be a good one, just not yet.

 

[tigerbalm]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

I completely disagree with this idea. I reckon Grant went to Benji more but mainly because Benji was probably the most creative half in the comp last year. He was creating stuff left, right and centre.

The problem with Benji is that he was woefully inconsistent throughout the game. His defense was terrible. He came up with heaps of poor options.

Brooks also didn't play poorly because Benji over played him.

I reckon him and Douiehi in the halves can work.

He might be the more creative - however when Brooks had the overlap etc. it was the Legend that bombed the try by overcalling Brooks and in that instance he was non creative one and went against the game plan.

Brooks was awful in 2020 because he played bad - he was in awful form all year. 3 try assists and 2 of those were in one of the last games of the season (the other one being his first game).

The ball went to Benji more because he was more likely to do something with it. Even in the last game when Benji went off it was AD that stepped up and he hadn't played in the halves all year.

Don't get me wrong i'm extremely happy Benji is going but blaming him for everything is ridiculous.

So true ..
It’s always someone else’s fault
Brooks / Moses .. Moses sucked
Brooks / Benji ..Benji sucked
Brooks / Reynolds ... Reynolds sucked
Farah was a ball hog
Grant was a ball hog
2021 it’s Doueihi’s fault
Have I missed anyone?



Nailed it!

And until he proves otherwise this is the ledger of Luke Brooks.

He can definitely play a role this season but just how strong a grip of the number 7 he has comes down to the man himself.

No more excuses.

Try him at 9, before it’s too late


So we push Liddle and Simpkin back to CC, that sounds like something Tim Sheens would do.
Go and take an aspirin and lay down.

Sorry, I didn’t realise you were the know it all of the WT’s, it’s an opinion, you are entitled to yours, but shove your condescending remarks where the sun doesn’t shine.

BTW many good halves have made the transition to become better 9’s, we need to have the best players on the park, just not your your favourites.

So what sort of message does that send to JL JS.

Same message if they kept Grant or snag Cheese.

Tough business.


I don't think it's a super crazy idea. Brooks can defend, sometimes has a short kicking game, has speed and can play the full 80. His service is questions but we have questions around JL injuries or how either will go for a full season.

 

[Blake]

"No more excuses" is the 2021 version of "anyone that disagrees with me is accepting mediocrity"

A simple statement that requires no evidence and makes anyone with a brain angry.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Luke was the DallyM halfback of the year 3 years ago , our player of the year , the year before last , and had a down year last year . Some of you guys do my head in . So hard to live up to your asinine , and downright ridiculous expectations . Seriously watch the games last years . Sooo many times , Luke had the play set up , was screaming for the ball , Benji screams the overcall word , because every team has one ( basically it’s a spur of the moment I see something and it’s on . It’s to allow off the cuff footy) , so because of this the dummy half has to pass to benji , and most of the time nothing happens .
Go watch it . It got so bad , Grant actually stopped looking for Brooks first , which is what was supposed to happen , and just going to benji.

Absolutely spot on Mate - I was so angry in many games.

Many try opportunities were butchered by our "Legend" because he was trying to add to it instead of playing for the team.

Look I don’t want to denigrate people , as I know just speaking to some mates who have followed the game their whole life , but never actually truely are paying attention to the more strategic side. So it comes across as holier than thou when you talk about this stuff . Which I don’t want to because , we all should be able to enjoy what we’re watching .
In saying that , it bothers me with this stuff .As I think Luke’s a great footballer . I think he’s better than Cleary , and most of the leaves out there. What he doesn’t have that Keary and even Mitch Moses have , is that rabbit out of a hat , play. But neither did Sterling. I’m not comparing the 2 , I’m just using a legend as reference to what I’m talking about . Maybe I’ve pitched my flag to Luke Brooks island. Maybe I’m wrong about how good he is.
But what I’m not wrong about is , the overcalling ,the going away from the game plan , crap , that we did last year . We were supposed to grind teams out , and it wasn’t coincidence , that in the back half we looked like a less good late 2000s tigers team.

Finally , once again , watch Liddle when he went into dummy half . His first option was Luke . Always Luke . Because it was supposed to be Luke’s team . Grant got bamboozled by the legend , and the low percentage magic.. Which is fair enough. But it doesn’t win you too many games in 2020. And it hasn’t , for a very long time .

Saved me writing most of this, particularly the latter paragraphs as it mirrors a lot of the thoughts I was having when catching up with the recent posts prior to yours. There is no doubt that Liddle played to Brooks first and foremost and for mine it also confirms the affect that presence of a powerful ego and other dominant characters can have.

To his credit, I feel that Maguire learnt from the error of his ways mid season and began clawing back the power and control that he allowed Benji, by then shifting it to where it needed to be with Luke. Had Brooks not missed the opening rounds that allowed that shift, I reckon we wouldn't have had to wait so long for him to wrestle back control and play well, which he did to finish the season.

 

[twentyforty]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

I completely disagree with this idea. I reckon Grant went to Benji more but mainly because Benji was probably the most creative half in the comp last year. He was creating stuff left, right and centre.

The problem with Benji is that he was woefully inconsistent throughout the game. His defense was terrible. He came up with heaps of poor options.

Brooks also didn't play poorly because Benji over played him.

I reckon him and Douiehi in the halves can work.

He might be the more creative - however when Brooks had the overlap etc. it was the Legend that bombed the try by overcalling Brooks and in that instance he was non creative one and went against the game plan.

Brooks was awful in 2020 because he played bad - he was in awful form all year. 3 try assists and 2 of those were in one of the last games of the season (the other one being his first game).

The ball went to Benji more because he was more likely to do something with it. Even in the last game when Benji went off it was AD that stepped up and he hadn't played in the halves all year.

Don't get me wrong i'm extremely happy Benji is going but blaming him for everything is ridiculous.

So true ..
It’s always someone else’s fault
Brooks / Moses .. Moses sucked
Brooks / Benji ..Benji sucked
Brooks / Reynolds ... Reynolds sucked
Farah was a ball hog
Grant was a ball hog
2021 it’s Doueihi’s fault
Have I missed anyone?



Nailed it!

And until he proves otherwise this is the ledger of Luke Brooks.

He can definitely play a role this season but just how strong a grip of the number 7 he has comes down to the man himself.

No more excuses.

Try him at 9, before it’s too late

Put a “C” after his name before it’s too late. VC for now.

 

[Russell]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

I completely disagree with this idea. I reckon Grant went to Benji more but mainly because Benji was probably the most creative half in the comp last year. He was creating stuff left, right and centre.

The problem with Benji is that he was woefully inconsistent throughout the game. His defense was terrible. He came up with heaps of poor options.

Brooks also didn't play poorly because Benji over played him.

I reckon him and Douiehi in the halves can work.

He might be the more creative - however when Brooks had the overlap etc. it was the Legend that bombed the try by overcalling Brooks and in that instance he was non creative one and went against the game plan.

Brooks was awful in 2020 because he played bad - he was in awful form all year. 3 try assists and 2 of those were in one of the last games of the season (the other one being his first game).

The ball went to Benji more because he was more likely to do something with it. Even in the last game when Benji went off it was AD that stepped up and he hadn't played in the halves all year.

Don't get me wrong i'm extremely happy Benji is going but blaming him for everything is ridiculous.

So true ..
It’s always someone else’s fault
Brooks / Moses .. Moses sucked
Brooks / Benji ..Benji sucked
Brooks / Reynolds ... Reynolds sucked
Farah was a ball hog
Grant was a ball hog
2021 it’s Doueihi’s fault
Have I missed anyone?



Nailed it!

And until he proves otherwise this is the ledger of Luke Brooks.

He can definitely play a role this season but just how strong a grip of the number 7 he has comes down to the man himself.

No more excuses.

Try him at 9, before it’s too late


So we push Liddle and Simpkin back to CC, that sounds like something Tim Sheens would do.
Go and take an aspirin and lay down.

Sorry, I didn’t realise you were the know it all of the WT’s, it’s an opinion, you are entitled to yours, but shove your condescending remarks where the sun doesn’t shine.

BTW many good halves have made the transition to become better 9’s, we need to have the best players on the park, just not your your favourites.

So what sort of message does that send to JL JS.

Same message if they kept Grant or snag Cheese.

Tough business.


I don't think it's a super crazy idea. Brooks can defend, sometimes has a short kicking game, has speed and can play the full 80. His service is questions but we have questions around JL injuries or how either will go for a full season.

I don't have any questions how Liddle will go in 2021 - just saying.

 

[TrueTiger]

Most on here have heard me critisise Luke many a time...I think what has to be done for Luke and the teams sake is Madge has to sit him down and TELL him in no uncertain words that "you lead this team around the park"no more Benji to overule you,its time you took hold of the reins and do what good playmakers do...
Luke has now got the opportunity to show all and sundry that he can follow gameplans,lead confidently and play the football we all know he can given the chance...
I look forward to next year and a new season heading towards finals footy...

 

[bathursttiger1]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

I completely disagree with this idea. I reckon Grant went to Benji more but mainly because Benji was probably the most creative half in the comp last year. He was creating stuff left, right and centre.

The problem with Benji is that he was woefully inconsistent throughout the game. His defense was terrible. He came up with heaps of poor options.

Brooks also didn't play poorly because Benji over played him.

I reckon him and Douiehi in the halves can work.

He might be the more creative - however when Brooks had the overlap etc. it was the Legend that bombed the try by overcalling Brooks and in that instance he was non creative one and went against the game plan.

Brooks was awful in 2020 because he played bad - he was in awful form all year. 3 try assists and 2 of those were in one of the last games of the season (the other one being his first game).

The ball went to Benji more because he was more likely to do something with it. Even in the last game when Benji went off it was AD that stepped up and he hadn't played in the halves all year.

Don't get me wrong i'm extremely happy Benji is going but blaming him for everything is ridiculous.

So true ..
It’s always someone else’s fault
Brooks / Moses .. Moses sucked
Brooks / Benji ..Benji sucked
Brooks / Reynolds ... Reynolds sucked
Farah was a ball hog
Grant was a ball hog
2021 it’s Doueihi’s fault
Have I missed anyone?



Nailed it!

And until he proves otherwise this is the ledger of Luke Brooks.

He can definitely play a role this season but just how strong a grip of the number 7 he has comes down to the man himself.

No more excuses.

Try him at 9, before it’s too late


So we push Liddle and Simpkin back to CC, that sounds like something Tim Sheens would do.
Go and take an aspirin and lay down.

Sorry, I didn’t realise you were the know it all of the WT’s, it’s an opinion, you are entitled to yours, but shove your condescending remarks where the sun doesn’t shine.

BTW many good halves have made the transition to become better 9’s, we need to have the best players on the park, just not your your favourites.

So what sort of message does that send to JL JS.

Jack Littlejohn..?

Jacob Liddle.

 

[Tim Sheens]

What confuses me about the whole Benji thing is that he played alongside Benji in 2019 and 2018 too and he had no issues. Not saying it wasn’t a factor but some of the blame has to go to Brooks himself. When he had the ball he certainly was doing the same things he did in years previous. No excuses at all for him in 2021 that’s for sure, if he can get back to 2018-2019 form it will do us a world of good because he was excellent in those two seasons

Missed the opening matches in which Benji gained control and didn't want to relinquish it, with the coach also moving Brooks' hole runner to the other side, who was then wasted in attack when continually run out of room or even past both Garner and his centre. Took him until he wrongly benched him and misused him there, to then finally realise the steps were in the wrong direction and make other changes to repair the damage done.

Not saying that Brooks could not have made better of himself, but even those that don't like Luke would have to admit that he finished the year off a lot better when he was finally allowed to take more control.

 

[bathursttiger1]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

I completely disagree with this idea. I reckon Grant went to Benji more but mainly because Benji was probably the most creative half in the comp last year. He was creating stuff left, right and centre.

The problem with Benji is that he was woefully inconsistent throughout the game. His defense was terrible. He came up with heaps of poor options.

Brooks also didn't play poorly because Benji over played him.

I reckon him and Douiehi in the halves can work.

He might be the more creative - however when Brooks had the overlap etc. it was the Legend that bombed the try by overcalling Brooks and in that instance he was non creative one and went against the game plan.

Brooks was awful in 2020 because he played bad - he was in awful form all year. 3 try assists and 2 of those were in one of the last games of the season (the other one being his first game).

The ball went to Benji more because he was more likely to do something with it. Even in the last game when Benji went off it was AD that stepped up and he hadn't played in the halves all year.

Don't get me wrong i'm extremely happy Benji is going but blaming him for everything is ridiculous.

So true ..
It’s always someone else’s fault
Brooks / Moses .. Moses sucked
Brooks / Benji ..Benji sucked
Brooks / Reynolds ... Reynolds sucked
Farah was a ball hog
Grant was a ball hog
2021 it’s Doueihi’s fault
Have I missed anyone?



Nailed it!

And until he proves otherwise this is the ledger of Luke Brooks.

He can definitely play a role this season but just how strong a grip of the number 7 he has comes down to the man himself.

No more excuses.

Try him at 9, before it’s too late


So we push Liddle and Simpkin back to CC, that sounds like something Tim Sheens would do.
Go and take an aspirin and lay down.

Sorry, I didn’t realise you were the know it all of the WT’s, it’s an opinion, you are entitled to yours, but shove your condescending remarks where the sun doesn’t shine.

BTW many good halves have made the transition to become better 9’s, we need to have the best players on the park, just not your your favourites.

So what sort of message does that send to JL JS.

Same message if they kept Grant or snag Cheese.

Tough business.


I don't think it's a super crazy idea. Brooks can defend, sometimes has a short kicking game, has speed and can play the full 80. His service is questions but we have questions around JL injuries or how either will go for a full season.

That’s what Simpkin is there for as backup to Liddle, if he doesn’t overtake him.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Luke was the DallyM halfback of the year 3 years ago , our player of the year , the year before last , and had a down year last year . Some of you guys do my head in . So hard to live up to your asinine , and downright ridiculous expectations . Seriously watch the games last years . Sooo many times , Luke had the play set up , was screaming for the ball , Benji screams the overcall word , because every team has one ( basically it’s a spur of the moment I see something and it’s on . It’s to allow off the cuff footy) , so because of this the dummy half has to pass to benji , and most of the time nothing happens .
Go watch it . It got so bad , Grant actually stopped looking for Brooks first , which is what was supposed to happen , and just going to benji.

Absolutely spot on Mate - I was so angry in many games.

Many try opportunities were butchered by our "Legend" because he was trying to add to it instead of playing for the team.

Look I don’t want to denigrate people , as I know just speaking to some mates who have followed the game their whole life , but never actually truely are paying attention to the more strategic side. So it comes across as holier than thou when you talk about this stuff . Which I don’t want to because , we all should be able to enjoy what we’re watching .
In saying that , it bothers me with this stuff .As I think Luke’s a great footballer . I think he’s better than Cleary , and most of the leaves out there. What he doesn’t have that Keary and even Mitch Moses have , is that rabbit out of a hat , play. But neither did Sterling. I’m not comparing the 2 , I’m just using a legend as reference to what I’m talking about . Maybe I’ve pitched my flag to Luke Brooks island. Maybe I’m wrong about how good he is.
But what I’m not wrong about is , the overcalling ,the going away from the game plan , crap , that we did last year . We were supposed to grind teams out , and it wasn’t coincidence , that in the back half we looked like a less good late 2000s tigers team.

Finally , once again , watch Liddle when he went into dummy half . His first option was Luke . Always Luke . Because it was supposed to be Luke’s team . Grant got bamboozled by the legend , and the low percentage magic.. Which is fair enough. But it doesn’t win you too many games in 2020. And it hasn’t , for a very long time .

Saved me writing most of this, particularly the latter paragraphs as it mirrors a lot of the thoughts I was having when catching up with the recent posts prior to yours. There is no doubt that Liddle played to Brooks first and foremost and for mine it also confirms the affect that presence of a powerful ego and other dominant characters can have.

To his credit, I feel that Maguire learnt from the error of his ways mid season and began clawing back the power and control that he allowed Benji, by then shifting it to where it needed to be with Luke. Had Brooks not missed the opening rounds that allowed that shift, I reckon we wouldn't have had to wait so long for him to wrestle back control and play well, which he did to finish the season.

Mate , I was going to say that about the first 2 rounds . But apparently we are making excuses because Brooks is crap , and is a bust . Except for him winning dally m halfback of the year , or winking player of the year , because you know the other 15 teams and 29 players, every media organisation etc. just gave it to him because he’s a good bloke .Or something like that...

 

[Geo]

Brooks had a poor year

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

 

[hobbo1]

Brooks had a poor year

Even lost his wallet

 

[cktiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

 

[hobbo1]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .