Luke Brooks

[BZN]

Luke was the DallyM halfback of the year 3 years ago , our player of the year , the year before last , and had a down year last year . Some of you guys do my head in . So hard to live up to your asinine , and downright ridiculous expectations . Seriously watch the games last years . Sooo many times , Luke had the play set up , was screaming for the ball , Benji screams the overcall word , because every team has one ( basically it’s a spur of the moment I see something and it’s on . It’s to allow off the cuff footy) , so because of this the dummy half has to pass to benji , and most of the time nothing happens .
Go watch it . It got so bad , Grant actually stopped looking for Brooks first , which is what was supposed to happen , and just going to benji.

No Benji for 2021, this time next season I hope there are no more excuses on why Brooks is not performing and we are all talking about a contract extension.

Why the hell are you talking about ? What excuses ? I’m not making excuses . I’m stating facts . This whole conversation shouldn’t even be a thing ! It’s makes no sense . Go back and see how Dally M halfbacks of the year are running around right now . It’s not many .
What your saying implies that he’s been a passenger since he debuted . Which has no foundation in reality . He’s done more than enough to earn his money , and his standing in the team .

It’s like when some of you whinge about the mid field bomb. Do you hav any clue as to what it’s for ? It’s a strategy every half uses , but yet when he does it , it’s bag city .
His defence is elite for a half . His speed is elite for a half . His short ball is elite for a half . His long kicking game is average . In fact early on in his career he used to kick to the corners a lot , you know why he doesn’t do it ? Because field position is key , and his coaches want to attack with defence . And if your tackling someone who’s on the back foot , you can put pressure on them. Wingers and fullbacks are so good positionally that , you might find the grass , what one out of every 3 kicks to the corner , and then what ? 2 out of 3 times your defence is dealing with a 100kg speed machine , with a head of steam .
But cause it doesn’t look pretty people jump up and down .

:clap: :clap: :clap: very strong :left-facing_fist: posts @Strongee

 

[BZN]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

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[BZN]

What confuses me about the whole Benji thing is that he played alongside Benji in 2019 and 2018 too and he had no issues. Not saying it wasn’t a factor but some of the blame has to go to Brooks himself. When he had the ball he certainly was doing the same things he did in years previous. No excuses at all for him in 2021 that’s for sure, if he can get back to 2018-2019 form it will do us a world of good because he was excellent in those two seasons

Of course man . I think honestly it’s Grant . Robbie has his own ego so he always chose , the best option. Like I’ve said , Grant would go to benji no matter what .
I know it’s not the same thing , but I’ve played with dummy halves who have thier favourites . You could scream for the ball all you want , but he would always go the other way. I’m not saying it’s the same thing , but there is a human element to it.
Brooks ? can’t allow that stuff to happen anymore . But I don’t think it’s going to be an issue this year .

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but if you haven't I am interested in knowing more of 'your' footy career.

 

[mike]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

Watching Luke Brooks stumble during interviews is painful. It never fills me with confidence at all. He interviews like a deer in headlights.

What he needs to do now is to stop talking and improve his on field performance because in 2020 he was poor.

 

[BZN]

*“The respect and experience I had for Benji in that space... I didn’t want to get in his way. That’s something Madge and I have been speaking about what to do moving forward to best help our team."*

Well, there you go. Basically confirmed that Benji got in his way and overcalled him.

(Source: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/12/08/brooks-looking-forward-to-potential-doueihi-halves-combination/)

Every fair minded supporter could see it, only the Brooks bashers and Benji lovers ignored it

I completely disagree with this idea. I reckon Grant went to Benji more but mainly because Benji was probably the most creative half in the comp last year. He was creating stuff left, right and centre.

The problem with Benji is that he was woefully inconsistent throughout the game. His defense was terrible. He came up with heaps of poor options.

Brooks also didn't play poorly because Benji over played him.

I reckon him and Douiehi in the halves can work.

He might be the more creative - however when Brooks had the overlap etc. it was the Legend that bombed the try by overcalling Brooks and in that instance he was non creative one and went against the game plan.

Brooks was awful in 2020 because he played bad - he was in awful form all year. 3 try assists and 2 of those were in one of the last games of the season (the other one being his first game).

The ball went to Benji more because he was more likely to do something with it. Even in the last game when Benji went off it was AD that stepped up and he hadn't played in the halves all year.

Don't get me wrong i'm extremely happy Benji is going but blaming him for everything is ridiculous.

So true ..
It’s always someone else’s fault
Brooks / Moses .. Moses sucked
Brooks / Benji ..Benji sucked
Brooks / Reynolds ... Reynolds sucked
Farah was a ball hog
Grant was a ball hog
2021 it’s Doueihi’s fault
Have I missed anyone?



Nailed it!

And until he proves otherwise this is the ledger of Luke Brooks.

He can definitely play a role this season but just how strong a grip of the number 7 he has comes down to the man himself.

No more excuses.

Try him at 9, before it’s too late


So we push Liddle and Simpkin back to CC, that sounds like something Tim Sheens would do.
Go and take an aspirin and lay down.

Sorry, I didn’t realise you were the know it all of the WT’s, it’s an opinion, you are entitled to yours, but shove your condescending remarks where the sun doesn’t shine.

BTW many good halves have made the transition to become better 9’s, we need to have the best players on the park, just not your your favourites.

So what sort of message does that send to JL JS.

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so I am sorry to ask again but, can you please 😛ray: stop :man-gesturing-no: with the name abbreviations as old farts like me dont have as good a memory for linking abbreviations to names, and it spoils the enjoyment of reading :nerd_face: that particular post.
Thanks mate :relaxed:

 

[happy_tiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

 

[happy_tiger]

i detest mobile phones

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

 

[happy_tiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

 

[JC99]

If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

 

[happy_tiger]

If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

 

[earl]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

I don't believe this. The whole team has to perform.

 

[JC99]

If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

 

[earl]

If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

I agree with this though. I want to see our halves attacking the line all the time. They need to threaten all the time.

Then they need to come up with good plays on the 5th tackle and not go for early kicks unless they are really on.

 

[happy_tiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

I don't believe this. The whole team has to perform.

if beooks doesnf play to his full potential itwont matter what the other 29 do

 

[earl]

Happy - I don't think we are completely dependent on Brooks being perfect. I hope that isn't the plan. I like Brooks but I think everyone needs to do their jobs.

There are very few (probably none) halves that their team are dependent on them. I think Cleary is a good example of where halves are currently at. Great defender and great kicker but he doesn't lead his teams to victory via being a great half. He is more of a Jason Taylor type half.

 

[OzLuke]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

I don't believe this. The whole team has to perform.

agree. forwards don't perform then he can't get the platform for the backs. backs don't do their dirty hit ups then the forwards do more work.

 

[happy_tiger]

Sorry Earl if Brooks doesnt play to his full poential it wont matter what the other current squad members do

how nant try assista did Brooka and Douehi have in 2020

I hope madge took special attention to the Roosters attack ...getting a littld bit out of the 3rds in attack proved extremely effective ...getting BJ and Jimmy together could be dynamite

 

[earl]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

I don't believe this. The whole team has to perform.

agree. forwards don't perform then he can't get the platform for the backs. backs don't do their dirty hit ups then the forwards do more work.

You need everyone to get you going forward and you need everyone to dent the line including the halves. Then we need to come up with good options late in the tackle count.

 

[happy_tiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

I don't believe this. The whole team has to perform.

agree. forwards don't perform then he can't get the platform for the backs. backs don't do their dirty hit ups then the forwards do more work.

You need everyone to get you going forward and you need everyone to dent the line including the halves. Then we need to come up with good options late in the tackle count.

so what your both saying that if Brooks has another season like 2020 without Grant or Benji we can still make the 8

your both ddreamibg