Luke Brooks

[TigerWest]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.

If all our team, especially some of our backs, defended as well as Brooks does we would make the finals. I cannot see this happening as the two main offenders are in their late twenties and never have they improved or being held to account for it. I live in hope Maguire will act.

people are critical about brooks' attack, and on last years form it's deserved, but not too many praise his defence which early in his career was atrocious. I think he is one of the best defending halves in the game.

Agree, but we need someone to get our attack moving forward.

 

[Tiger5150]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

I agree with this. He would add good cover for many positions, and would be subsidized by the broncos to get him off their books.

There is zero chance of Brisbane subsidising Brody Croft to come here to snap up a reserve grade half who is recovering from an ACL and wont be available for half a season.

 

[OzLuke]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

I agree with this. He would add good cover for many positions, and would be subsidized by the broncos to get him off their books.


There is zero chance of Brisbane subsidising Brody Croft to come here to snap up a reserve grade half who is recovering from an ACL and wont be available for half a season.

you'd be surprised what brisbane might do

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Luke "it's my team now" Brooks.

Every year I hear how it's his team now, every year he plays like it's BBB

Aside from the year he was dally m halfback .....
Or the other year he was voted our best player....
Never turned up though right ?
Had a shocker last year , but can we at least pretend we are being objective?

 

[Speed2burn]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

I agree with this. He would add good cover for many positions, and would be subsidized by the broncos to get him off their books.

I sort of agree with this. Brodie Croft is a myth . Can do a job , but I hope he’s not the “brooks “ replacement , or heir apparent like I dunno Blake Lazarus , Jacob Miller etc.

Croft is very very ordinary
take him out of that storm system hopeless
same with Flannigan he couldn't perform at roosters he ain't going to do it at dogs

Croft wasn’t even good in the storm system

Hughes was not even an established half back yet won a premiership in his first season playing in that position

 

[twentyforty]

Luke "it's my team now" Brooks.

Every year I hear how it's his team now, every year he plays like it's BBB


Aside from the year he was dally m halfback .....
Or the other year he was voted our best player....
Never turned up though right ?
Had a shocker last year , but can we at least pretend we are being objective?

The difference between Benji and Brooks is.. Brooks can be trained. A subtle difference but huge in the scheme of things. At the end of 2018 Brooks had done enough for Madge to get him a serious contract upgrade. I think it’s a little unfair to single out a player in a team full of underperformers. Brooks is a late bloomer, gosh didn’t have a girlfriend before establishing as a regular nrl 7 ?
Is it possible that Madge promised him a team during contract negotiations? Because it has often appeared to me that he sometimes just goes through the motions? I don’t mind that, in terms of the experience he has gained, but I’d like to see more of that aggression/desire to win that he showed Gags. Brooks needs to fire up and he now has his best pack and most complimentary backs, so I expect him to turn it on.

 

[TrueTiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Couldnt agree more. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and youre not a fan of Brooks clearly.

But tell me this. At which period in his playing career has he had a fair go with a decent halves partner and forward pack? Sure, I agree he needs to still make something without those things, but I have seen 'glimpses' of what he could be and that is enough based on what he has had around him.

He may grow up to be nothing. But as for providing a decent team for him to 'own', and halfback alternatives, I think he is top of the tree at the moment.

Dont have an issue with Brooks at all if he produces his best fotm ....but everyone must agree that his form in 2020 wasnt acceptable

He tries his ass off and has improved many areas of his game....but the only acceptable result is finals footy

Jesus you go on and on Hap,if Brooks plays his arse off and has improved many areas of his game....what about the other 16 in the game day side...does Brooks have to carry them,they have to all have a fair dinkum go or we will miss out on the finals again...Madge cant be out there and play for them all...this is a team effort and they all have to do their job"""

Seriously TT if you are trying to say that Brooks form was acceptable in 2020 and he wasn't partially responsible for our failed finals attempt in 2020 you are kidding yourself


And 2ndly ...your taking out Marshall and Grant's attack


Yep I go on and on ...with sound footy sense .....


2nd time Zig if you don't like what I type Foe me ...its simple


But no doubt you'll make some smart ass comment about me kicking the ball into trees again ....

Hap,you can have your opinion on anything you wish to converse about...
I didnt say Brooks form was acceptable at all in 2020,however,as you said he has improved in areas of his game and plays his butt off...he obviously is doing his best..my POINT is that the game is a team effort and not only does Brooks have to step up as the main playmaker,he has to take control of the team and THEY must all do their job to be a successful team progressing towards finals football..
I dont profess to be the expert on the game but I also think there has been far to much individualism and reliance on a particular club icon that has restricted Lukes game....

I dont have to foe you,Im entitled to my opinion and have been critisised many a time myself and I still have my input to different threads...

 

[Russell]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.

Rubbish.

 

[happy_tiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Couldnt agree more. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and youre not a fan of Brooks clearly.

But tell me this. At which period in his playing career has he had a fair go with a decent halves partner and forward pack? Sure, I agree he needs to still make something without those things, but I have seen 'glimpses' of what he could be and that is enough based on what he has had around him.

He may grow up to be nothing. But as for providing a decent team for him to 'own', and halfback alternatives, I think he is top of the tree at the moment.

Dont have an issue with Brooks at all if he produces his best fotm ....but everyone must agree that his form in 2020 wasnt acceptable

He tries his ass off and has improved many areas of his game....but the only acceptable result is finals footy

Jesus you go on and on Hap,if Brooks plays his arse off and has improved many areas of his game....what about the other 16 in the game day side...does Brooks have to carry them,they have to all have a fair dinkum go or we will miss out on the finals again...Madge cant be out there and play for them all...this is a team effort and they all have to do their job"""

Seriously TT if you are trying to say that Brooks form was acceptable in 2020 and he wasn't partially responsible for our failed finals attempt in 2020 you are kidding yourself


And 2ndly ...your taking out Marshall and Grant's attack


Yep I go on and on ...with sound footy sense .....


2nd time Zig if you don't like what I type Foe me ...its simple


But no doubt you'll make some smart ass comment about me kicking the ball into trees again ....

Hap,you can have your opinion on anything you wish to converse about...
I didnt say Brooks form was acceptable at all in 2020,however,as you said he has improved in areas of his game and plays his butt off...he obviously is doing his best..my POINT is that the game is a team effort and not only does Brooks have to step up as the main playmaker,he has to take control of the team and THEY must all do their job to be a successful team progressing towards finals football..
I dont profess to be the expert on the game but I also think there has been far to much individualism and reliance on a particular club icon that has restricted Lukes game....

I dont have to foe you,Im entitled to my opinion and have been critisised many a time myself and I still have my input to different threads...

Whether you missed some of my other comments I don't know ...but I'm saying that EVEN if the rest of the side plays to its maximum ...if Brooks doesn't play his best football ..particularly in attack we won't make the 8 ...every one keeps going on about being a team game ... understand that ..... played fullback for the majority of my football ...but Brooks needs a cracker season

 

[TrueTiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Couldnt agree more. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and youre not a fan of Brooks clearly.

But tell me this. At which period in his playing career has he had a fair go with a decent halves partner and forward pack? Sure, I agree he needs to still make something without those things, but I have seen 'glimpses' of what he could be and that is enough based on what he has had around him.

He may grow up to be nothing. But as for providing a decent team for him to 'own', and halfback alternatives, I think he is top of the tree at the moment.

Dont have an issue with Brooks at all if he produces his best fotm ....but everyone must agree that his form in 2020 wasnt acceptable

He tries his ass off and has improved many areas of his game....but the only acceptable result is finals footy

Jesus you go on and on Hap,if Brooks plays his arse off and has improved many areas of his game....what about the other 16 in the game day side...does Brooks have to carry them,they have to all have a fair dinkum go or we will miss out on the finals again...Madge cant be out there and play for them all...this is a team effort and they all have to do their job"""

Seriously TT if you are trying to say that Brooks form was acceptable in 2020 and he wasn't partially responsible for our failed finals attempt in 2020 you are kidding yourself


And 2ndly ...your taking out Marshall and Grant's attack


Yep I go on and on ...with sound footy sense .....


2nd time Zig if you don't like what I type Foe me ...its simple


But no doubt you'll make some smart ass comment about me kicking the ball into trees again ....

Hap,you can have your opinion on anything you wish to converse about...
I didnt say Brooks form was acceptable at all in 2020,however,as you said he has improved in areas of his game and plays his butt off...he obviously is doing his best..my POINT is that the game is a team effort and not only does Brooks have to step up as the main playmaker,he has to take control of the team and THEY must all do their job to be a successful team progressing towards finals football..
I dont profess to be the expert on the game but I also think there has been far to much individualism and reliance on a particular club icon that has restricted Lukes game....

I dont have to foe you,Im entitled to my opinion and have been critisised many a time myself and I still have my input to different threads...

Whether you missed some of my other comments I don't know ...but I'm saying that EVEN if the rest of the side plays to its maximum ...if Brooks doesn't play his best football ..particularly in attack we won't make the 8 ...every one keeps going on about being a team game ... understand that ..... played fullback for the majority of my football ...but Brooks needs a cracker season

Totally agree with your comment Hap,but,Im saying now that Benji is gone Luke can no longer sit back and see what happens,he has to start the attack and lead the rest of the team in the direction HE wants the play to go,and they all have to do their job,whether to defend or support the plays that he creates going forward,if they all give 100 percent efforts then we will be playing finals football...

 

[gregjm87]

IMO Brooks is about as good as most the other halfbacks going around after probably the top 4 or 5. Were certainly not going to find anyone better at the club in the next year or two.
I think 2021 will be another tough year to be honest. The club is starting to build nicely but the pack though talented is still quite inexperienced.
I want Brooks to survive, at least until the end of 2022. By then these young forwards should be really starting to show their ability and I believe Brooks will shine behind them.

 

[happy_tiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Couldnt agree more. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and youre not a fan of Brooks clearly.

But tell me this. At which period in his playing career has he had a fair go with a decent halves partner and forward pack? Sure, I agree he needs to still make something without those things, but I have seen 'glimpses' of what he could be and that is enough based on what he has had around him.

He may grow up to be nothing. But as for providing a decent team for him to 'own', and halfback alternatives, I think he is top of the tree at the moment.

Dont have an issue with Brooks at all if he produces his best fotm ....but everyone must agree that his form in 2020 wasnt acceptable

He tries his ass off and has improved many areas of his game....but the only acceptable result is finals footy

Jesus you go on and on Hap,if Brooks plays his arse off and has improved many areas of his game....what about the other 16 in the game day side...does Brooks have to carry them,they have to all have a fair dinkum go or we will miss out on the finals again...Madge cant be out there and play for them all...this is a team effort and they all have to do their job"""

Seriously TT if you are trying to say that Brooks form was acceptable in 2020 and he wasn't partially responsible for our failed finals attempt in 2020 you are kidding yourself


And 2ndly ...your taking out Marshall and Grant's attack


Yep I go on and on ...with sound footy sense .....


2nd time Zig if you don't like what I type Foe me ...its simple


But no doubt you'll make some smart ass comment about me kicking the ball into trees again ....

Hap,you can have your opinion on anything you wish to converse about...
I didnt say Brooks form was acceptable at all in 2020,however,as you said he has improved in areas of his game and plays his butt off...he obviously is doing his best..my POINT is that the game is a team effort and not only does Brooks have to step up as the main playmaker,he has to take control of the team and THEY must all do their job to be a successful team progressing towards finals football..
I dont profess to be the expert on the game but I also think there has been far to much individualism and reliance on a particular club icon that has restricted Lukes game....

I dont have to foe you,Im entitled to my opinion and have been critisised many a time myself and I still have my input to different threads...

Whether you missed some of my other comments I don't know ...but I'm saying that EVEN if the rest of the side plays to its maximum ...if Brooks doesn't play his best football ..particularly in attack we won't make the 8 ...every one keeps going on about being a team game ... understand that ..... played fullback for the majority of my football ...but Brooks needs a cracker season

Totally agree with your comment Hap,but,Im saying now that Benji is gone Luke can no longer sit back and see what happens,he has to start the attack and lead the rest of the team in the direction HE wants the play to go,and they all have to do their job,whether to defend or support the plays that he creates going forward,if they all give 100 percent efforts then we will be playing finals football...

Which is why I got pissed TT ....I've been saying the same thing and then say "you've been going on and on " with the exact same point .....that you now totally agree with ........

 

[TrueTiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Couldnt agree more. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and youre not a fan of Brooks clearly.

But tell me this. At which period in his playing career has he had a fair go with a decent halves partner and forward pack? Sure, I agree he needs to still make something without those things, but I have seen 'glimpses' of what he could be and that is enough based on what he has had around him.

He may grow up to be nothing. But as for providing a decent team for him to 'own', and halfback alternatives, I think he is top of the tree at the moment.

Dont have an issue with Brooks at all if he produces his best fotm ....but everyone must agree that his form in 2020 wasnt acceptable

He tries his ass off and has improved many areas of his game....but the only acceptable result is finals footy

Jesus you go on and on Hap,if Brooks plays his arse off and has improved many areas of his game....what about the other 16 in the game day side...does Brooks have to carry them,they have to all have a fair dinkum go or we will miss out on the finals again...Madge cant be out there and play for them all...this is a team effort and they all have to do their job"""

Seriously TT if you are trying to say that Brooks form was acceptable in 2020 and he wasn't partially responsible for our failed finals attempt in 2020 you are kidding yourself


And 2ndly ...your taking out Marshall and Grant's attack


Yep I go on and on ...with sound footy sense .....


2nd time Zig if you don't like what I type Foe me ...its simple


But no doubt you'll make some smart ass comment about me kicking the ball into trees again ....

Hap,you can have your opinion on anything you wish to converse about...
I didnt say Brooks form was acceptable at all in 2020,however,as you said he has improved in areas of his game and plays his butt off...he obviously is doing his best..my POINT is that the game is a team effort and not only does Brooks have to step up as the main playmaker,he has to take control of the team and THEY must all do their job to be a successful team progressing towards finals football..
I dont profess to be the expert on the game but I also think there has been far to much individualism and reliance on a particular club icon that has restricted Lukes game....

I dont have to foe you,Im entitled to my opinion and have been critisised many a time myself and I still have my input to different threads...

Whether you missed some of my other comments I don't know ...but I'm saying that EVEN if the rest of the side plays to its maximum ...if Brooks doesn't play his best football ..particularly in attack we won't make the 8 ...every one keeps going on about being a team game ... understand that ..... played fullback for the majority of my football ...but Brooks needs a cracker season

Totally agree with your comment Hap,but,Im saying now that Benji is gone Luke can no longer sit back and see what happens,he has to start the attack and lead the rest of the team in the direction HE wants the play to go,and they all have to do their job,whether to defend or support the plays that he creates going forward,if they all give 100 percent efforts then we will be playing finals football...

Which is why I got pissed TT ....I've been saying the same thing and then say "you've been going on and on " with the exact same point .....that you now totally agree with ........

No I said you go on because you also said that Brooks did improve many areas of his game..I mainly said he has been restricted in what he can do because the club icon kept overcalling him...
I may have taken it in the wrong context,but now with Benji gone I hope Luke can stand up and be himself and produce the football we all know he can..
I didnt bellittle you or your comments,just stating how I see the situation as it is heading into 2021..

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

I agree with this. He would add good cover for many positions, and would be subsidized by the broncos to get him off their books.

I sort of agree with this. Brodie Croft is a myth . Can do a job , but I hope he’s not the “brooks “ replacement , or heir apparent like I dunno Blake Lazarus , Jacob Miller etc.

Croft is very very ordinary
take him out of that storm system hopeless
same with Flannigan he couldn't perform at roosters he ain't going to do it at dogs

Croft wasn’t even good in the storm system

Hughes was not even an established half back yet won a premiership in his first season playing in that position

Agree he is Jacob miller mark 2 hopeless

 

[happy_tiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Couldnt agree more. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and youre not a fan of Brooks clearly.

But tell me this. At which period in his playing career has he had a fair go with a decent halves partner and forward pack? Sure, I agree he needs to still make something without those things, but I have seen 'glimpses' of what he could be and that is enough based on what he has had around him.

He may grow up to be nothing. But as for providing a decent team for him to 'own', and halfback alternatives, I think he is top of the tree at the moment.

Dont have an issue with Brooks at all if he produces his best fotm ....but everyone must agree that his form in 2020 wasnt acceptable

He tries his ass off and has improved many areas of his game....but the only acceptable result is finals footy

Jesus you go on and on Hap,if Brooks plays his arse off and has improved many areas of his game....what about the other 16 in the game day side...does Brooks have to carry them,they have to all have a fair dinkum go or we will miss out on the finals again...Madge cant be out there and play for them all...this is a team effort and they all have to do their job"""

Seriously TT if you are trying to say that Brooks form was acceptable in 2020 and he wasn't partially responsible for our failed finals attempt in 2020 you are kidding yourself


And 2ndly ...your taking out Marshall and Grant's attack


Yep I go on and on ...with sound footy sense .....


2nd time Zig if you don't like what I type Foe me ...its simple


But no doubt you'll make some smart ass comment about me kicking the ball into trees again ....

Hap,you can have your opinion on anything you wish to converse about...
I didnt say Brooks form was acceptable at all in 2020,however,as you said he has improved in areas of his game and plays his butt off...he obviously is doing his best..my POINT is that the game is a team effort and not only does Brooks have to step up as the main playmaker,he has to take control of the team and THEY must all do their job to be a successful team progressing towards finals football..
I dont profess to be the expert on the game but I also think there has been far to much individualism and reliance on a particular club icon that has restricted Lukes game....

I dont have to foe you,Im entitled to my opinion and have been critisised many a time myself and I still have my input to different threads...

Whether you missed some of my other comments I don't know ...but I'm saying that EVEN if the rest of the side plays to its maximum ...if Brooks doesn't play his best football ..particularly in attack we won't make the 8 ...every one keeps going on about being a team game ... understand that ..... played fullback for the majority of my football ...but Brooks needs a cracker season

Totally agree with your comment Hap,but,Im saying now that Benji is gone Luke can no longer sit back and see what happens,he has to start the attack and lead the rest of the team in the direction HE wants the play to go,and they all have to do their job,whether to defend or support the plays that he creates going forward,if they all give 100 percent efforts then we will be playing finals football...

Which is why I got pissed TT ....I've been saying the same thing and then say "you've been going on and on " with the exact same point .....that you now totally agree with ........

No I said you go on because you also said that Brooks did improve many areas of his game..I mainly said he has been restricted in what he can do because the club icon kept overcalling him...
I may have taken it in the wrong context,but now with Benji gone I hope Luke can stand up and be himself and produce the football we all know he can..
I didnt bellittle you or your comments,just stating how I see the situation as it is heading into 2021..

Well got accused as a Brooks hater ....which isn't true ... respect greatly how much his defence has improved ...but he gets paid the big bucks to get us across the line with the big plays .....and if he gets overcalled by Benji that comes back to the trust of the dummy half ...and in 2020 Grant only made bad calls in attack when he was mentally and physically struggling to get 80 minutes ....and most dummy halfs doing the work Grant was fatigue bar that Smith bloke ...who is arguably the greatest footballer we have ever seen ....

When push comes to shout what usually happens if the DH isn't following the coaches instructions / trust he gets sat on the bench ...

When you sit in a video session you have to be explain why you did what you did on field if it hasn't come off ...if you keep doing it week after week ...and look at Madge's history ....walking on eggshells ...he sits you on the bench to have a think about it

 

[cktiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
**In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team** or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.

Much like Benji then huh?

You comparing Brooks to Benji at his peak ? Lol

 

[TheDaBoss]

Brooks wasnt his best in 2020

His best major highlight was punching gagai

 

[Russell]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

Just for accuracy - Walters is 26.

 

[clontarfkid]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

Just for accuracy - Walters is 26.

Thanks...27 next yr...not exactly a young gun moving up.My point is still valid

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Luke "it's my team now" Brooks.

Every year I hear how it's his team now, every year he plays like it's not.

Have to agree he has stated that prior and not really taken ownership, will give him a new opportunity in 2021 based upon 2 factors. No Benji / Forwards Depth improved.

Think we will know by round 5 if brooks is up for delivering, in all honesty i hope he does as we have invested lots of years in him with nil return playing finals.

If not we know and i am sure MADGE will look elsewhere or give others an opportunity to step up, its his final chance this season.