Luke Brooks

[happy_tiger]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

Fresh start ..only been at Brisbane for 12 months


Got a few outside backs I'd be interested in .....Farnsworth ....even Jamayne Isakko

 

[Tigerbuck63]

IMO Brooks is about as good as most the other halfbacks going around after probably the top 4 or 5. Were certainly not going to find anyone better at the club in the next year or two.
I think 2021 will be another tough year to be honest. The club is starting to build nicely but the pack though talented is still quite inexperienced.
I want Brooks to survive, at least until the end of 2022. By then these young forwards should be really starting to show their ability and I believe Brooks will shine behind them.

I don't think you can give Brooks two years till 2022.
He had an opportunity last year with Benji dropped for a month and could not take charge, He then was dropped to the bench later himself (Wake up call like Nofo) although should have been dropped completely in order to watch how to control a game, did he improve when back not really but did show some glimpses, Field goal to Win one game and a cross kick to AD to beat manly after demanding the ball from Benji.

I hope he steps up as Madge is expecting him to in 2021 and so are the supporters now Benji is gone. If not i don't think he will be around in 2022.

 

[JayT]

Yeah, definitely last chance 2021 or we go in the market for a quality half.

 

[Lukic]

Lots of heads in the sand here. Watch Brooks in 2014-15 and watch him this past season. What does he conclusively do better? Nothing. He still doesn't control the team, he still puts up those poor midfield bomb/field position kicks (I don't even really know what to call them but they suck). Perhaps he's been playing injured, but he also seems to have lost a bit of pace too which was one of the few things that made him dangerous given he was a threat in broken play and as a support runner. He's improved a lot as a defender, I'll give him that but you don't pick halves for their defensive prowess.

His 'great' 2018 season when he won the Dally M halfback of the year was a mirage and simply a product of how we won games that year. Tons of scrappy, low scoring games where he'd get 2 or 3 points because he was our halfback and maybe scored a try off an offload or loose ball. He was hardly a standout.

Of the top 8 teams last year, which team would he walk into? Maybe Cronulla over Townsend? I guess you could argue the Roosters over Flanagan but that's about it. He'd be the 3rd best half at every other top 8 club from last season. The thing is we're relying on him as though he's the best player of our spine, when for any team serious about competing for the title he'd at best be the 4th best player in their spine.

I'd understand being optimistic if he showed continual improvements in his game and admittedly he's never had consistently good teams around him, but plenty of good or even great halves have made average teams around them look better than they are. The fact is he's going to be 27 next year and it's going to be his 8th year in first grade. He is what he is and that's a mediocre half - this isn't his team now and frankly never will be because he's just not that kind of player.

 

[851]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

Agree mate, it does my head in the high regard Benji is held over the last 3 years.
Sure he was good, great even, but that was pre 2012, he has been fairly average since then.
And the fact people are saying we need him to score points is laughable, he took all the ball, played high risk low percentage plays, we will be much better off without him in and around the team.
Brooks just got the scraps, Grub got shafted, all for our so called legend, everyone just let Benji carry on with whatever he wanted.
He got benched, and his media mates kept up the story he worked hard on what was needed to get back in the team.
Grub got suspended and Benji came in and stayed there for the rest of the season, missing more tackles, trying just as many Hail Mary plays, jamming our outside backs up and generally as bad or worse than he was before being dropped.
He improved nothing, yet was left to carry on regardless, Brooks must of been wondering what the hell was going on.
If Benji was as good as he and his mates think, he would be at another club training now, fact is he has made himself out to be quite petulant with a huge ego.
Brooks will improve next year with no Benji for sure, whether that will be enough for us is debatable, the damage done to his career might be irreversible, I hope it’s not.

 

[BAGNF05]

IMO Brooks is about as good as most the other halfbacks going around after probably the top 4 or 5. Were certainly not going to find anyone better at the club in the next year or two.
I think 2021 will be another tough year to be honest. The club is starting to build nicely but the pack though talented is still quite inexperienced.
I want Brooks to survive, at least until the end of 2022. By then these young forwards should be really starting to show their ability and I believe Brooks will shine behind them.

Reality.

 

[Shooter Mcgavin]

No to Croft. He is sideways at best from Brooks.

Talented, albeit inexperienced youth should be a priority over average, experienced run of the mill journeymen. Experience is overrated IMO

 

[cktiger]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

Fresh start ..only been at Brisbane for 12 months


Got a few outside backs I'd be interested in .....Farnsworth ....even Jamayne Isakko

Croft = Brooks
Don't need two of the same underperformers.

 

[happy_tiger]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

Fresh start ..only been at Brisbane for 12 months


Got a few outside backs I'd be interested in .....Farnsworth ....even Jamayne Isakko

Croft = Brooks
Don't need two of the same underperformers.

Agree mate ......I'd rather risk going with our youth and saving the $$$$ ...wait for Mr Right

 

[Hangonaminute]

Luke "it's my team now" Brooks.

Every year I hear how it's his team now, every year he plays like it's BBB


Aside from the year he was dally m halfback .....
Or the other year he was voted our best player....
Never turned up though right ?
Had a shocker last year , but can we at least pretend we are being objective?

How many years have we missed the 8 again under the direction of Brooks?

Do you want to have a wager about where we finish with Brooks at 7, I'm willing to bet we don't make the 8 while he's there

 

[hobbo1]

Luke "it's my team now" Brooks.

Every year I hear how it's his team now, every year he plays like it's not.

Then he has the hide to throw Benji under the bus 😂

 

[tig_prmz]

Croft is a version of Brooks without the defensive abilities. I think he can be good on his day and may be able to perform but definitely don't need him here with Brooks.

Milfored, maybe... but risky with the weight, defence and lack of form issues. Would have to be highly subsidised.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Milford heavily subsidised maybe as he could play 1 or 6

 

[happy_tiger]

Are we allowed to talk about whether it was a calf or hamstring issue that was limiting Brooks running game now ????

Seems every time I brought it up everyone in the know caught the last train for the Coast

 

[Tim Sheens]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I'm suggesting that if our defence doesn't improve from last season we won't have the points in us to win enough games

Guaranteed to be a lot stronger three in on the right which was WT biggest defensive weakness and almost certainly similarly across that side on the whole as a result.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Luke "it's my team now" Brooks.

Every year I hear how it's his team now, every year he plays like it's BBB


Aside from the year he was dally m halfback .....
Or the other year he was voted our best player....
Never turned up though right ?
Had a shocker last year , but can we at least pretend we are being objective?

How many years have we missed the 8 again under the direction of Brooks?

Do you want to have a wager about where we finish with Brooks at 7, I'm willing to bet we don't make the 8 while he's there

Mate your straw man arguement has been answered a billion times over . If you haven’t got it yet . You never will. 2018 , his best year to date ,was an indicator of the kids talent . His strike outside him was frozone , MWZ , Fonua , and out of form Nofa . With Thommo out the back , so basically any block plays came to nothing due to his limitations in the passing game .
That’s all I’m going to say .

 

[Harvey]

Brooks would not still be playing if those midfield bombs were not the coaches instructions.

Looking forward to him steering the side around and having some structure in attack rather than running off the back of an inconsistent ad lib player who too often goes for gold and comes up with rocks.

If Brooks can’t carry that load it is time to move on.

 

[carltonleach]

I recon brooks will be in career best form this season coming and in contention for dally m halfback of the year!! He’s shown he can do it in previous years I truly think he can find that again

 

[Hangonaminute]

Luke "it's my team now" Brooks.

Every year I hear how it's his team now, every year he plays like it's BBB


Aside from the year he was dally m halfback .....
Or the other year he was voted our best player....
Never turned up though right ?
Had a shocker last year , but can we at least pretend we are being objective?

How many years have we missed the 8 again under the direction of Brooks?

Do you want to have a wager about where we finish with Brooks at 7, I'm willing to bet we don't make the 8 while he's there

Mate your straw man arguement has been answered a billion times over . If you haven’t got it yet . You never will. 2018 , his best year to date ,was an indicator of the kids talent . His strike outside him was frozone , MWZ , Fonua , and out of form Nofa . With Thommo out the back , so basically any block plays came to nothing due to his limitations in the passing game .
That’s all I’m going to say .

You don't seem to have the courage of your conviction

 

[Guest]

Milford heavily subsidised maybe as he could play 1 or 6

Hmm...no. That's a ridiculous idea.