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Luke "it's my team now" Brooks.

Every year I hear how it's his team now, every year he plays like it's BBB


Aside from the year he was dally m halfback .....
Or the other year he was voted our best player....
Never turned up though right ?
Had a shocker last year , but can we at least pretend we are being objective?

How many years have we missed the 8 again under the direction of Brooks?

Do you want to have a wager about where we finish with Brooks at 7, I'm willing to bet we don't make the 8 while he's there

Mate your straw man arguement has been answered a billion times over . If you haven’t got it yet . You never will. 2018 , his best year to date ,was an indicator of the kids talent . His strike outside him was frozone , MWZ , Fonua , and out of form Nofa . With Thommo out the back , so basically any block plays came to nothing due to his limitations in the passing game .
That’s all I’m going to say .

You don't seem to have the courage of your conviction

How so ? I’m just sick of saying the same thing over and over . As the saying goes , the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistake over over and over expecting a different result .
 
Croft couldn't tie up Brooks' shoelaces. The Tigers destroyed him twice: Lawrence when he was at the Storm, and Luciano in the Leichhardt game. The guy is a myth.
 
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Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
**In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team** or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.



Much like Benji then huh?

You comparing Brooks to Benji at his peak ? Lol

No, comparing him to Marshall post 2011. When he was atrocious more often than not.
 
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Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
**In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team** or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.



Much like Benji then huh?

You comparing Brooks to Benji at his peak ? Lol

No, comparing him to Marshall post 2011. When he was atrocious more often than not.

He had 35 try assists in 2012
 
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Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
**In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team** or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.



Much like Benji then huh?

You comparing Brooks to Benji at his peak ? Lol

No, comparing him to Marshall post 2011. When he was atrocious more often than not.

He had 35 try assists in 2012

So he should - he was the only one to get the ball in those moments.
 
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If brooks has Luc and Roberts outside him then it’s pretty simple.... give them early ball and let them make you look good. Support them after they create something and you’ll score plenty. As soon as the opposition starts marking them harder start running. Kick to corners and use Roberts speed to get down there.

totally disagree .. Brooks strength is his running game and he should run early and stick defences on the back foot

Like I said, run after defences are worried about our strike weapons outside him. His running game didn’t work this year, teams knew it was coming and shut him down pretty easily.

He did a lot of running but wasn’t creating anything with it majority of the time. He needs to find the balance between the two, it’s his best attribute but he didn’t balance it with his passing game enough. Too easy for defences to read. He can run early too but not too much straight away I think. He didn’t give Luc enough early ball this year

He didn't get any early ball - that makes a big difference in the time you have to do anything. If you get early ball, you have time for a short pass, long pass, kick or beat the man opposite you (you can't do any of that if, when you get the slow ball from the ruck, that guy is standing ready to smash you).

That is the difference between a good DH and a not so good DH.


early ball is ovet rated ...you put the ball where a hole is and it is 6 times more effective

There is NO hole if there is no early ball!

There will be plenty of early ball for Brooks and AD with Liddle at DH - sit back and watch Hap.

A good half centre pairing create space .....Kevie and Renouf are a great example .....it literally takes minor adjustment ....altering your run from an inside shoulder to an outsidr shoulder .....creating mumbers with wrap arounds

if nothing is on you turn your centre into fresh meat if you give them early ball

if something is on ...hell yeah ..but most occasions you have to create space

So Kevie & Renouf are the example? Really? So how does our pack compare to Campion, Tonie Carroll, Petero, Webke, Andrew Gee, Tallis, Brad Thorn, Luke Priddis etc etc. Oh, and Langer at half to help with that.

Gotta have forwards rolling forward before that happens.

and your spine still needs to create something ...you just cant roll up the field and expect to throw the ball out the backline and the winger scores ......aint Under 10s ladies and gents

Correct. It aint under 10's. That's when you give it to the fat kid 5 metres out and he drags 9 over to score, crushing 3 other weaklings in the process.

We’ve played a few under 10’s sides over the years. Teams have given the ball to their fat kids who scored against us. Shannon Boyd at the raiders scored a few like that.

Maybe I’m just getting mixed up with our under 10’s defence over the years.
 
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I love a 1/2 who can pass higher than himself.
 
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I love a 1/2 who can pass higher than himself.


Needs to learn to get rid of the flat passes. His passes need to go up slightly as most of his teammates are taller than him.
 
No excuses for Brooks this year. He is the dominant half with experience so no benji to stifle him. No dominant number 9 to take his time away. Forward pack looks amazing this year. Step up Brooks please or your time here might be up.
 
@TIGERPOWER said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1289645) said:
No excuses for Brooks this year.

Rest assured there will be plenty!!

But I would like to see a few new and exciting ones this year please. Something a bit more creative.
I see some are already being tested in pre-season. 🤣
 
Madge obviously sees something in Brooks that he can work with. He had a good look at Brooksy, obviously also had a good look at other halfbacks, then resigned him on a decent contract.
 
Seriously, there is not a half in the world that would have looked good in the Tigers side last year.We had forwards who had little forward momentum and soft in defence.JA was our best and he was ok but not anything special.Our backline was lacking penetration and was slow.We had no fullback,no goalkicker,and a bunch of guys who would be lucky to survive in the CC comp,who we kept moving around on the hope they might make some impact.
 
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Seriously, there is not a half in the world that would have looked good in the Tigers side last year.We had forwards who had little forward momentum and soft in defence.JA was our best and he was ok but not anything special.Our backline was lacking penetration and was slow.We had no fullback,no goalkicker,and a bunch of guys who would be lucky to survive in the CC comp,who we kept moving around on the hope they might make some impact.


I agree, JA was our best while Twal was out and in all honesty JA is a 14 or 15. Our inside backs were getting hammered. It’s a team sport. I think it’s a really good move by Madge to reinforce that it’s Brooks’ team before preseason. Brooks doesn’t get on the front foot and take authority so he needs to be given it so that he can accept it himself. That’s why I think he should be vc, and by the second half of the season we will be talking about a SoO spot for him.
 
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@sleeve said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1289669) said:
Seriously, there is not a half in the world that would have looked good in the Tigers side last year.We had forwards who had little forward momentum and soft in defence.JA was our best and he was ok but not anything special.Our backline was lacking penetration and was slow.We had no fullback,no goalkicker,and a bunch of guys who would be lucky to survive in the CC comp,who we kept moving around on the hope they might make some impact.


I agree, JA was our best while Twal was out and in all honesty JA is a 14 or 15. Our inside backs were getting hammered. It’s a team sport. I think it’s a really good move by Madge to reinforce that it’s Brooks’ team before preseason. Brooks doesn’t get on the front foot and take authority so he needs to be given it so that he can accept it himself. That’s why I think he should be vc, and by the second half of the season we will be talking about a SoO spot for him.

Another thing I’ve noticed is that the NSW origin halves usually come from top 4, if not top 8 teams. Their form is correlated with team success. Playing for Tigers brooks has been Buckley’s chance of getting to that level.
 
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1289668) said:
Madge obviously sees something in Brooks that he can work with. He had a good look at Brooksy, obviously also had a good look at other halfbacks, then resigned him on a decent contract.

Agree Madge was the one that resigned him on a long term deal and this next season its time to deliver it will reflect poorly on both if we finish lower than 11th.

Forwards are better and younger players more experienced but they need a half that also can dictate plays.

I would have preferred to see Brooks dropped completely last season than retain a bench spot, seemed like it worked for Nofo the season prior.

At the moment will support Brooks but will be watching with Interest on how performs with no Marshall and weather expectations can be achieved, not confident on what i saw prior seasons but am hoping can deliver finally with some better forwards now signed.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1291785) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1289668) said:
Madge obviously sees something in Brooks that he can work with. He had a good look at Brooksy, obviously also had a good look at other halfbacks, then resigned him on a decent contract.

Agree Madge was the one that resigned him on a long term deal and this next season its time to deliver it will reflect poorly on both if we finish lower than 11th.

Forwards are better and younger players more experienced but they need a half that also can dictate plays.

I would have preferred to see Brooks dropped completely last season than retain a bench spot, seemed like it worked for Nofo the season prior.

At the moment will support Brooks but will be watching with Interest on how performs with no Marshall and weather expectations can be achieved, not confident on what i saw prior seasons but am hoping can deliver finally with some better forwards now signed.


I think sometimes what you can find in a team made up mostly of plodders, or those marking time before their next move, is the few good players aren’t consistently good. It’s great to have some leadership and skill in the forwards and hopefully Brooks will appreciate the change. I’m still on the fence, but in the back of my mind I’m hoping that Brooks was marking time waiting for this positive change?
 
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1291807) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1291785) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1289668) said:
Madge obviously sees something in Brooks that he can work with. He had a good look at Brooksy, obviously also had a good look at other halfbacks, then resigned him on a decent contract.

Agree Madge was the one that resigned him on a long term deal and this next season its time to deliver it will reflect poorly on both if we finish lower than 11th.

Forwards are better and younger players more experienced but they need a half that also can dictate plays.

I would have preferred to see Brooks dropped completely last season than retain a bench spot, seemed like it worked for Nofo the season prior.

At the moment will support Brooks but will be watching with Interest on how performs with no Marshall and weather expectations can be achieved, not confident on what i saw prior seasons but am hoping can deliver finally with some better forwards now signed.


I think sometimes what you can find in a team made up mostly of plodders, or those marking time before their next move, is the few good players aren’t consistently good. It’s great to have some leadership and skill in the forwards and hopefully Brooks will appreciate the change. I’m still on the fence, but in the back of my mind I’m hoping that Brooks was marking time waiting for this positive change?

Well i never liked the fact that Benji would also dictate plays and demand the ball, especially when the game was on the line and it rarely worked as team mates did not know what play he was doing.

Bulldogs game last season Brooks demanded the ball and kicked a winning field goal want to see more in 2021.
 
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