Luke Brooks

[The_Patriot]

Reality is he will be with us for another two seasons.

Also reality

* He has been given more chances than any other second tier half back in the history of the game.
* He is overpaid
* He does not do enough when we really need him to. Cracks under pressure.

 

[twentyforty]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Sounds like you are agreeing. Brooks has kicked a winning fg but he doesn’t do it often enough. He can do all the things a good 7 can do, but he doesn’t do it often enough. Reynolds has that reason to “march into hell for a heavenly cause” that doesn’t exist with anyone at WT. we have the least aggressive forward pack in the nrl. We can all see that, because we all know he will improve at another club. At the same time we are unsure how Reynolds will go at another club.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

I’d be surprised if he was on 850. The problems run deeper than Brooks though. Just like they run deeper than the coach when everyone wanted him gone. It’s not as simple as we punt him and the lord and saviour Hastings will lead us to the finals. The squad is garbage, and outside of when Tedesco was here, it’s never been a finals calibre squad. But of course, Brooks being the halfback and longest serving player gets the brunt of it.

 

[avocadoontoast]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

I’d be surprised if he was on 850. The problems run deeper than Brooks though. Just like they run deeper than the coach when everyone wanted him gone. It’s not as simple as we punt him and the lord and saviour Hastings will lead us to the finals. The squad is garbage, and outside of when Tedesco was here, it’s never been a finals calibre squad. But of course, Brooks being the halfback and longest serving player gets the brunt of it.

No him going would make minimal difference to our performance, it would just save money. Our squad sucks, our coach sucks and our administrators are hopeless.

 

[Tigers_Tale]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

Against South's last year , do you think Reynolds could of done what brooks did, pick up the loose ball and run 100 metres to score a try, to win a game, and is still its debatable whether Burgess did get that ball down. Its not the first time Brooks has done something like this.

 

[innsaneink]

No debate... Burger got it down

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

if we lose Brooks and get Kyle Flanagan we will truly see what an average halfback looks like

 

[avocadoontoast]

if we lose Brooks and get Kyle Flanagan we will truly see what an average halfback looks like

It would provide some vigorous discussion though.

 

[tigerbalm]

if we lose Brooks and get Kyle Flanagan we will truly see what an average halfback looks like

The first step is loosing Brooks.

 

[Westie]

if we lose Brooks and get Kyle Flanagan we will truly see what an average halfback looks like

Maybe thats why his dad pulled out of the job... didn't want to have drop his son...

 

[Lukic]

I just don't get what the Brooks defenders actually see in him. Drop the stats for a minute, what does he actually do in the game to make you think "Jeez this bloke goes alright"?

He barely finds the turf on his long kicks. He rarely scores or sets up tries outside of broken play or cross-field kicks. Basically guaranteed about 5 sets a game where he'll just completely kill our momentum or butcher an overlap with the wrong option. Hospital passes and balls that find the turf when spreading it wide.

I will give him credit in that his cross-field kicks are pretty good and he's improved defensively by quite a bit, though he still has a missed tackle or two up his sleeve every game that leads to an opportunity, if not try. He's also a good support player backing up breaks.

It's clear as day watching him throughout his career that developed his skillset and physically pretty early, but isn't able to add much to his game. Outside of his defence, he's basically the same player now as he was when he entered first grade. No creativity or unique plays. No leadership or game management. With his support skills and burst, he could've become a good 14 in the mould of a Craig Wing but has been left in the 7 his whole career and unfortunately amounted to nothing more than a NSW cup / low-end NRL halfback. It's through no fault of his own and he's been a good professional who you can tell tries his guts out, but he just isn't the guy to make it as a good NRL halfback.

 

[twentyforty]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

I’d be surprised if he was on 850. The problems run deeper than Brooks though. Just like they run deeper than the coach when everyone wanted him gone. It’s not as simple as we punt him and the lord and saviour Hastings will lead us to the finals. The squad is garbage, and outside of when Tedesco was here, it’s never been a finals calibre squad. But of course, Brooks being the halfback and longest serving player gets the brunt of it.

No him going would make minimal difference to our performance, it would just save money. Our squad sucks, our coach sucks and our administrators are hopeless.

And to make matters worse, assuming that’s possible, there seems to be a consensus of opinion that the way out of the hole is to sack someone lol. Am I the only one who thinks this is funny?

 

[avocadoontoast]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

I’d be surprised if he was on 850. The problems run deeper than Brooks though. Just like they run deeper than the coach when everyone wanted him gone. It’s not as simple as we punt him and the lord and saviour Hastings will lead us to the finals. The squad is garbage, and outside of when Tedesco was here, it’s never been a finals calibre squad. But of course, Brooks being the halfback and longest serving player gets the brunt of it.

No him going would make minimal difference to our performance, it would just save money. Our squad sucks, our coach sucks and our administrators are hopeless.

And to make matters worse, assuming that’s possible, there seems to be a consensus of opinion that the way out of the hole is to sack someone lol. Am I the only one who thinks this is funny?

I just look at it by the numbers. He is (reportedly) on $850k but delivering output of a $250k-$300k player. If another team is willing to take him at near full freight, it makes sense to let him go imo.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

Against South's last year , do you think Reynolds could of done what brooks did, pick up the loose ball and run 100 metres to score a try, to win a game, and is still its debatable whether Burgess did get that ball down. Its not the first time Brooks has done something like this.

What are you on about? He picked up a ball and ran with no one chasing him. Yeah he’s fast but he’s not the winger so it shouldn’t be his main weapon. And it’s not debatable it was a try and was given, you can believe what you want about it but it won’t change the fact.

 

[avocadoontoast]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

Against South's last year , do you think Reynolds could of done what brooks did, pick up the loose ball and run 100 metres to score a try, to win a game, and is still its debatable whether Burgess did get that ball down. Its not the first time Brooks has done something like this.

He would have been better off taking the tackle. It was ruled no try on field, was only called back for review because he scored.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

Against South's last year , do you think Reynolds could of done what brooks did, pick up the loose ball and run 100 metres to score a try, to win a game, and is still its debatable whether Burgess did get that ball down. Its not the first time Brooks has done something like this.

He would have been better off taking the tackle. It was ruled no try on field, was only called back for review because he scored.

Nah, the moment he was tackled time would have been called off to go back and review the put down.

 

[twentyforty]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

I’d be surprised if he was on 850. The problems run deeper than Brooks though. Just like they run deeper than the coach when everyone wanted him gone. It’s not as simple as we punt him and the lord and saviour Hastings will lead us to the finals. The squad is garbage, and outside of when Tedesco was here, it’s never been a finals calibre squad. But of course, Brooks being the halfback and longest serving player gets the brunt of it.

No him going would make minimal difference to our performance, it would just save money. Our squad sucks, our coach sucks and our administrators are hopeless.

And to make matters worse, assuming that’s possible, there seems to be a consensus of opinion that the way out of the hole is to sack someone lol. Am I the only one who thinks this is funny?

I just look at it by the numbers. He is (reportedly) on $850k but delivering output of a $250k-$300k player. If another team is willing to take him at near full freight, it makes sense to let him go imo.

Isn’t that what the club has been doing over the years? IDK, but it looks to me like it’s not working?
We seem to be giving a prognosis without doing a proper diagnosis?

 

[jadtiger]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

I’d be surprised if he was on 850. The problems run deeper than Brooks though. Just like they run deeper than the coach when everyone wanted him gone. It’s not as simple as we punt him and the lord and saviour Hastings will lead us to the finals. The squad is garbage, and outside of when Tedesco was here, it’s never been a finals calibre squad. But of course, Brooks being the halfback and longest serving player gets the brunt of it.

No him going would make minimal difference to our performance, it would just save money. Our squad sucks, our coach sucks and our administrators are hopeless.

And to make matters worse, assuming that’s possible, there seems to be a consensus of opinion that the way out of the hole is to sack someone lol. Am I the only one who thinks this is funny?

It is tragic,Brooks certainly has his faults but he has good points also as i look across our squad he is one of the lesser problems.When you have a forward who wants a large payrise and they dont even tackle you see a far bigger problem in the squad.Some of our players obviously think playing first grade guarantees they deserve more money,this is nonsense as consistent good performances deserve more money and it is about time some of them realised defence wins you games and is a very important factor in performance

 

[avocadoontoast]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

I’d be surprised if he was on 850. The problems run deeper than Brooks though. Just like they run deeper than the coach when everyone wanted him gone. It’s not as simple as we punt him and the lord and saviour Hastings will lead us to the finals. The squad is garbage, and outside of when Tedesco was here, it’s never been a finals calibre squad. But of course, Brooks being the halfback and longest serving player gets the brunt of it.

No him going would make minimal difference to our performance, it would just save money. Our squad sucks, our coach sucks and our administrators are hopeless.

And to make matters worse, assuming that’s possible, there seems to be a consensus of opinion that the way out of the hole is to sack someone lol. Am I the only one who thinks this is funny?

I just look at it by the numbers. He is (reportedly) on $850k but delivering output of a $250k-$300k player. If another team is willing to take him at near full freight, it makes sense to let him go imo.

Isn’t that what the club has been doing over the years? IDK, but it looks to me like it’s not working?
We seem to be giving a prognosis without doing a proper diagnosis?

Don't get me wrong, i'd like to see about a dozen players moved on. Brooks for me is about $ vs output.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

I’d be surprised if he was on 850. The problems run deeper than Brooks though. Just like they run deeper than the coach when everyone wanted him gone. It’s not as simple as we punt him and the lord and saviour Hastings will lead us to the finals. The squad is garbage, and outside of when Tedesco was here, it’s never been a finals calibre squad. But of course, Brooks being the halfback and longest serving player gets the brunt of it.

No him going would make minimal difference to our performance, it would just save money. Our squad sucks, our coach sucks and our administrators are hopeless.

And to make matters worse, assuming that’s possible, there seems to be a consensus of opinion that the way out of the hole is to sack someone lol. Am I the only one who thinks this is funny?

I just look at it by the numbers. He is (reportedly) on $850k but delivering output of a $250k-$300k player. If another team is willing to take him at near full freight, it makes sense to let him go imo.

Isn’t that what the club has been doing over the years? IDK, but it looks to me like it’s not working?
We seem to be giving a prognosis without doing a proper diagnosis?

Don't get me wrong, i'd like to see about a dozen players moved on. Brooks for me is about $ vs output.

No point saving money. It’s not like we’re doing anything with the money we already have saved. We’re one big rugby league contraceptive.