Luke Brooks

[avocadoontoast]

Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

Andrew Webster has stated that the club's statement has not stopped his manager approaching other clubs and agitating for Brooks to be released. I think that's why the stories haven't stopped

So dodgy

Unless Brooks actually wants out?

Someone's dodgy statement was pretty clear

Andrew Webster has pretty good info usually

 

[tony soprano]

Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

 

[Telltails]

Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

Andrew Webster has stated that the club's statement has not stopped his manager approaching other clubs and agitating for Brooks to be released. I think that's why the stories haven't stopped

So dodgy

Unless Brooks actually wants out?

Without knowing anything my feeling is its coming from Brooks manager for that very reason.

 

[gregjm87]

Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

I dont want to believe it. Not just because i dont think we have a better option than Brooks but also I dont want the first strongly worded statement from Sheens to amount to nothing. Kind of feels what is the point of getting Sheens in if were going to go against his wishes on the first big decision hes had to make.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

Andrew Webster has stated that the club's statement has not stopped his manager approaching other clubs and agitating for Brooks to be released. I think that's why the stories haven't stopped

So dodgy

Unless Brooks actually wants out?

Without knowing anything my feeling is its coming from Brooks manager for that very reason.

Spot on. My take on it is he's representing his client's wishes. Also, even though most of the journo's are terrible, a few of them have good info. Webster tends to be one of the good ones.

 

[Telltails]

Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

Andrew Webster has stated that the club's statement has not stopped his manager approaching other clubs and agitating for Brooks to be released. I think that's why the stories haven't stopped

So dodgy

Unless Brooks actually wants out?

Without knowing anything my feeling is its coming from Brooks manager for that very reason.

Spot on. My take on it is he's representing his client's wishes. Also, even though most of the journo's are terrible, a few of them have good info. Webster tends to be one of the good ones.

If so ... can see him at the Bulldogs. Close to home and family, and a roster that has built nicely in the off season. And if Gould wants him he rarely misses out.

 

[Tiger5150]

I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…

I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.

Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.

Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.

I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.

He's on $850k. It's been reported as such widely for the last couple of seasons since his extension. He certainly is on Big dollars

What’s the issue with Brooks’ remuneration? There’s at least 12 halves in the comp on $850k or higher some not as good as Brooks. There’s also a dozen or more on less, some better than Brooks and some not as good imo.

There were but most of the highly paid halves that were overpaid are all out of contract as of Monday. Milford, Taylor, Moylan, Johnson. Mostly the only ones left getting paid big coin actually deserve it.

Brooks is a 300k max half based on what he produces yet he's paid triple that basically. It's a really bad contract for the club as far as squad culture and morale as it'd be really demotivating to bust a gut while your halfback produces nothing and earns way more than you do

There are no first grade halves on 300K.

Not every player is on the same scale, a half isnt paid like a winger or a squaddy 2RF.

 

[tony soprano]

How good were Hastings comments about Brooks. Looking forward to seeing them together working with sheens and madge.

 

[twentyforty]

I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…

I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.

Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.

Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.

I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.

He's on $850k. It's been reported as such widely for the last couple of seasons since his extension. He certainly is on Big dollars

What’s the issue with Brooks’ remuneration? There’s at least 12 halves in the comp on $850k or higher some not as good as Brooks. There’s also a dozen or more on less, some better than Brooks and some not as good imo.

There were but most of the highly paid halves that were overpaid are all out of contract as of Monday. Milford, Taylor, Moylan, Johnson. Mostly the only ones left getting paid big coin actually deserve it.

Brooks is a 300k max half based on what he produces yet he's paid triple that basically. It's a really bad contract for the club as far as squad culture and morale as it'd be really demotivating to bust a gut while your halfback produces nothing and earns way more than you do

His work rate is quite high eg avg 20 tackles, while say Tamou avg is 22.

 

[Krammy]

I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…

I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.

Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.

Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.

I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.
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>Yes we want him to be JT, Cronk or Cleary - But he's not, And we won't get those guys - ever!!

Not with that attitude

No Mate, **He's the Best number 7 we've had since we won the comp**....(A long, LONG time before he debuted)

Infact - I'd have him only behind Prince who we had for 3/22 years.
I been around long enough to know how long that is...
If we can get someone better, Get someone better...
But there is no one better, And we wouldn't get them anyhow....
We couldn't get Cleary when his Dad was here - What chance do we have now?
We gotta get real... We're the least likely destination out of all the Sydney Clubs - And it's been that way for a very long time....

Lui says hi.

Please... I think he's remembered better than he was.
Was also in a top 4 Side his whole career... (2 years)
And protected by Gareth Ellis for a good part of that...
BIIIIIIIIIIGGGGG difference!!

Agree with this.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…

I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.

Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.

Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.

I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.

He's on $850k. It's been reported as such widely for the last couple of seasons since his extension. He certainly is on Big dollars

What’s the issue with Brooks’ remuneration? There’s at least 12 halves in the comp on $850k or higher some not as good as Brooks. There’s also a dozen or more on less, some better than Brooks and some not as good imo.

There were but most of the highly paid halves that were overpaid are all out of contract as of Monday. Milford, Taylor, Moylan, Johnson. Mostly the only ones left getting paid big coin actually deserve it.

Brooks is a 300k max half based on what he produces yet he's paid triple that basically. It's a really bad contract for the club as far as squad culture and morale as it'd be really demotivating to bust a gut while your halfback produces nothing and earns way more than you do

There are no first grade halves on 300K.

Not every player is on the same scale, a half isnt paid like a winger or a squaddy 2RF.

Brodie Croft was reportedly on $400K at the Broncos and he was complete garbage. That was close to a bottom-dollar deal. Lachlan Lewis was on a similar salary with performances to match. Halfback is a whole different kettle of fish when it comes to salary. Chad Townsend will earn $650K/year at cows despite being not very good for quite a long time.

Even a reserve grade halfback can earn a damn good living. Jock Madden is likely earning around $200K/year despite still being a couple of years away from being FG standard. The reason they earn so much is because if you don't pay them big $, someone else will.

 

[jirskyr]

back on track with journalistic speculation about his future

Lifted directly from this forum too. "Reportedly" prefers Bulldogs, "reportedly" doesn't want to play under Maguire.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

back on track with journalistic speculation about his future

Lifted directly from this forum too. "Reportedly" prefers Bulldogs, "reportedly" doesn't want to play under Maguire.

The owners of this website need to find a way to charge journalists for article content.

 

[hugh1954]

The club could never come out and say yes we will let him go,must always say he's going nowhere otherwise ,his trade price plummets.
Its time to get rid of him, he will never get the same leniencies at any other club with his dumb performances,only the tigers would put up with his mediocracy for years

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Hasto on playing with Luke
Such a legend


 

[Tigers_Tale]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

Against South's last year , do you think Reynolds could of done what brooks did, pick up the loose ball and run 100 metres to score a try, to win a game, and is still its debatable whether Burgess did get that ball down. Its not the first time Brooks has done something like this.

He would have been better off taking the tackle. It was ruled no try on field, was only called back for review because he scored.

That was the game against Warriors , but like i said he done this many times, its something that Reynolds would be incapable of.

 

[Geo]

I guess we can’t downvote Hastings….

 

[needsanewusername]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

Against South's last year , do you think Reynolds could of done what brooks did, pick up the loose ball and run 100 metres to score a try, to win a game, and is still its debatable whether Burgess did get that ball down. Its not the first time Brooks has done something like this.

He would have been better off taking the tackle. It was ruled no try on field, was only called back for review because he scored.

That was the game against Warriors , but like i said he done this many times, its something that Reynolds would be incapable of.

Why would Reynolds be incapable of running the length when no one is chasing?