Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[avocadoontoast]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

 

[happy_tiger]

A lot of the on field stuff has to having believe in the player standing either side of you and know ing that if YOU do your job they will do THEIRS

Melbourne in other words

We have on field fighting basically and shaming in social media

You need to be your own on field leader ......with a few hardened on old heads reinforcing everything when it gets tough ...at the moment when it gets tough we head down to our own in goal area for a break .......

 

[pawsandclaws1]

madge,nice bloke but players not playing for him lets not kid our selves after 3 years we have gone backwards. why people defend him god no,s why. cant attract a decent player,gets turned down more than me in a halifax nightclub haha


Well those players who aren’t “playing for coach” can move on and we get more adults in the team. Wooshka!!! Problem solved! ?

True, if you don't want your $5-10k a week, then go play park footy for beer money.

There’s no single solution imo, but the club has made a statement by hiring a tough minded coach who will stay the course and continue to reinforce a healthier team behaviour. That’s what the hard training does, it makes players uncomfortable, Madge needs to do more to get players out of their comfort zone. This will help them build self confidence and extinguish any thoughts they may have that their poor form is someone else’s responsibility. The worst thing Madge can do is stop delivering the positive message.

The words hard, tough don't equate to smart. I believe this is what we are witnessing at WTs.

I think there’s room for those two words in a gladiator sport.
Paws, how would you approach the job if you were head coach?

I'm not ever going to be a coach but we appear to have a one trick pony as coach. When players are tone deaf to the tough talk, gesticulation etc there appears to be flailing about due to the inability to change. A more strategic minded approach (expecting the normal level of commitment to training etc), better communication skills and people management attributes are obvious qualities we require.

 

[TigerNeddyK]

madge,nice bloke but players not playing for him lets not kid our selves after 3 years we have gone backwards. why people defend him god no,s why. cant attract a decent player,gets turned down more than me in a halifax nightclub haha


Well those players who aren’t “playing for coach” can move on and we get more adults in the team. Wooshka!!! Problem solved! ?

True, if you don't want your $5-10k a week, then go play park footy for beer money.

There’s no single solution imo, but the club has made a statement by hiring a tough minded coach who will stay the course and continue to reinforce a healthier team behaviour. That’s what the hard training does, it makes players uncomfortable, Madge needs to do more to get players out of their comfort zone. This will help them build self confidence and extinguish any thoughts they may have that their poor form is someone else’s responsibility. The worst thing Madge can do is stop delivering the positive message.

The words hard, tough don't equate to smart. I believe this is what we are witnessing at WTs.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!! ?

 

[cktiger]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.

 

[jadtiger]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.

You do realise that the rorters can do that because of the influence they have where it counts.The vast majority of clubs do not have the luxury of handling matters the same way.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.

That’s not a realistic option for WT imo.

 

[cktiger]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.

That’s not a realistic option for WT imo.

Don't see why not.
Sounds like we have got rid of Mbye ... there must be takers for some of the others we need to get rid of.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.

That’s not a realistic option for WT imo.

Don't see why not.
Sounds like we have got rid of Mbye ... there must be takers for some of the others we need to get rid of.

We’re paying half his salary. Do you want to pay half the salary of 15 players to leave?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.

That’s not a realistic option for WT imo.

Don't see why not.
Sounds like we have got rid of Mbye ... there must be takers for some of the others we need to get rid of.

We’re paying half his salary. Do you want to pay half the salary of 15 players to leave?

That’s why Brooks will be staying put.

 

[twentyforty]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.

That’s not a realistic option for WT imo.

Don't see why not.
Sounds like we have got rid of Mbye ... there must be takers for some of the others we need to get rid of.

It has taken a long time to move him on and cost a lot. And he’s one of our better players when he wants to be.

 

[2005magic]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.


You do realise that the rorters can do that because of the influence they have where it counts.The vast majority of clubs do not have the luxury of handling matters the same way.

True, but isnt the point they are not hamstrung by contracts. They dont let that stop action to address issue. They move the player on, contract payout or not.

 

[Joel Helmes]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.


You do realise that the rorters can do that because of the influence they have where it counts.The vast majority of clubs do not have the luxury of handling matters the same way.

True, but isnt the point they are not hamstrung by contracts. They dont let that stop action to address issue. They move the player on, contract payout or not.

Correct, it’s an attitude and confidence thing.

 

[Demps]


 

[clokan]

I was always in two minds about Madge as our coach.

On one hand he had a great cv and results over several years. But on the other hand, he got the boot at Souths after some player discontent.

After watching the recent documentary, he's 100% the right guy for our club.

Great motivator, really strong vision, very supportive of the guys and I've seen more than a few little things that suggests he's very good at 'mind games' (I mean that in a positive way).

Compared to what I have saw behind the scenes from ivan Cleary, Madge is miles ahead.

So why can't we make the top 8?

I think it's simple, we don't have a roster that's mentally strong enough to play at top 8 quality footy for consistent enough periods. No other coach will change that.

It's important that we stick with Madge for a few more seasons, it does look like he's building a winning culture.

What is your reasoning to say he’s building a winning culture?

The same reasoning as those saying there is no one better to replace Madge, how the hell do you know **if you don't try**, what we are doing is not only not making us better, it's making us worse

Because if we get it wrong (again), then we go backwards (again) and who is going to want to come here, except junior coaches, like Morris etc.
Madge needs to be given the time to straighten the place out. Players will come and go for this to happen.
I've not heard anyone say they are happy with our results, but many (including Madge) believe the current squad is just not up to it. All clubs continually review there rosters.

I would actually plump for Morris or Ciraldo, Madge can't attract quality players, he can't motivate or train the ones he brought in to any decent standard either.
There is no justification to keep a non performing coach because you are scared of failure, we are failing, and failing harder each year he has been here, that is all you need to say see you later mate

There’s no justification for keeping non performing players either… that’s our biggest problem.

The problem is we can’t just move them on, and half our top 30 are contracted to 2023 and beyond. We’re stuck with what we’ve got

There's always a way, we just aren't as ruthless as some clubs.
Look at the Roosters.
Robinson thinks he can't win a comp with the NSW half still under contract ...gone.
Fast forward three years and he feels the same about a young gun half still under contract ...gone.
He does what he has to to win games - and keep his job.


You do realise that the rorters can do that because of the influence they have where it counts.The vast majority of clubs do not have the luxury of handling matters the same way.

True, but isnt the point they are not hamstrung by contracts. They dont let that stop action to address issue. They move the player on, contract payout or not.

Correct, it’s an attitude and confidence thing.

However you need to be able to replace them with better players, we are not a destination club. Roosters cut someone and take their pick for a replacement, we cut someone and would be lucky to attract a player of the same calibre

 

[Lauren]


Congrats on 300 Madge!
Whether it's for you, their future or the season hope to see the boys get a win either way.

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Well deserved 🙌🙌🙌🙌



 

[supercoach]

If I saw in us what I see in Brisbane I'd be happy.

A poor roster that will be stronger next year but showing signs of improvement now.

Spot on…..you want to see improvement at this time of the year. Something to build on in the preseason. We are no better than round one, if anything we have gone a tad backwards.

 

[wet tiger coloured bird]

no happy to see a win but happy to see players playing well

 

[Tiger5150]

If I saw in us what I see in Brisbane I'd be happy.

A poor roster that will be stronger next year but showing signs of improvement now.

Spot on…..you want to see improvement at this time of the year. Something to build on in the preseason. We are no better than round one, if anything we have gone a tad backwards.

I have seen one single solitary improvement/hope for the future and I think it also explains a large part of the problem.

IMO something like 80% (a completely made up number pulled from nowhere) of our problems are defensively edge/threequarters. IMO a big part of the problem and why it hasnt been fixed is we simply dont have the people to fix it. BJ is rightly gone because of it, JTJ has been injured, Pauga cant defend, Talau is not great in defence, the kids arent up to it. LL and AD have contributed to it as well.

The positive is see is that Madge is onto it but simply doesnt have the cattle to fix it. He is onto it because he put Mbye back there a few weeks ago (Mbye with all his faults is our best defensive centre) but Lauries injury ruined that. I dont rate MCK at all but IMO Madge putting him there is solely to try to fix this defensive issue.

We simply dont have the cattle to fix this problem, but I can see taht Madge is trying to address it (although I doubt Gildart is the answer).