Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[851]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

 

[851]

How's the Sharkies going since parting way with Morris..

Different situation, they were going ok until they decided to punt Morris, we on the other hand are going like a busted, I say sign Morris, he is more in touch with NRL 2021 than Madge 2014

Morris is a good bloke who has done pretty well in a relatively brief period. But he does not have a long term proven track record. He is therefore a gamble. Say we sign him next week, and in 2023 we still haven't made the 8. What then?

Pretty well? With the situation at the Sharks when he took over Morris did an excellent job. He from all accounts in the Shire has the respect and admiration of players. Two final 8 appearances when he was considered an interim. How would we accept to final 8 appearances? A three year tenure with two final 8 appearances is a good regime.

Seibold made the 8 too, then went belly up. Long term proven track record, preferably including premierships, is what we need. And it's what we have. Signing a young coach who's had a couple of years experience is the last thing this club needs. It would be a big gamble.

I would have Morris in a heartbeat, but going on your theory, I will take Flanagan, both a huge step up in my opinion

 

[avocadoontoast]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

 

[851]

I think he’s safe this year, but if we’re in the same position this time next year, boy oh boy, he’ll be a dead man walking. And the same side again won’t cut it. He’ll have money to spend with Packer and possibly Mbye gone. He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat.

If we keep going the way we're going, without improving, I think he'll be gone mid season. If we show marginal improvement he might see out the year. I think the chances of him being here next year are 1000/1

I hope you are right, we need new blood, and Madge is not going to attract what we need

 

[TillLindemann]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

And before Madge we were routinely signing Origin stars, were we?

Our recent recruitment is the best in a long time. And it's not those recruits that are letting us down, it's the bludgers who are part of the furniture that are letting us down.

 

[tony soprano]

John Morris is a very presentable face for WTs. Tertiary qualified and an impressive regime including the Sharks Elite Junior Development Academy.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/john-morris-a32065ab

There is only one coach that can do the job outside of Maguire and that’s Shane Flanagan.
The roster needs to be culled. No one will go any good changing coaches is pointless.

The team is B grade

I don’t know about the squad look how many players Payten has turned around, coaching definitely a factor.

 

[851]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

And that was it for me, the Madge is a good player repellant was no myth, it just got busted that day, his name is atop of the coaches players least wanted to play under

 

[BZN]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Haven't always been the biggest fan of Paul Kent but gee it's hard to disagree with anything that was said there.

It hurts but it's true.

I don't think it hurts at all - it's common knowledge for anyone with a football brain who watches the WT play - this needs to be played to the players before every game.

Yeah, but if you played it before the game, some of these players are so fragile that they probably wouldn't come out of the sheds.

:rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :thinking_face: :upside_down_face: :upside_down_face:

 

[TillLindemann]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

Players choose the Dogs because they throw money like drunken sailors. I am very thankful that we are now managing our salary cap as well as can be expected. No point splurging massively on a JAC if it means you're then stuck with a hopeless pack that will get routinely dominated. Bulldogs will be a long term train wreck.

 

[tony soprano]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

Chose $$ over Madge which was a terrible decision let’s remember the club 90 percent of the time have now refused to pay overs for players which should put us in good shape starting from next year one good thing the club are doing

 

[TillLindemann]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

And that was it for me, the Madge is a good player repellant was no myth, it just got busted that day, his name is atop of the coaches players least wanted to play under

Who really cares if DWZ didn't come here? Would we be much better off with him here instead of Daine Laurie? I'd choose Laurie every day of the week.

 

[tiger05premier]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

Thank God for that

 

[avocadoontoast]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

And that was it for me, the Madge is a good player repellant was no myth, it just got busted that day, his name is atop of the coaches players least wanted to play under

Who really cares if DWZ didn't come here? Would we be much better off with him here instead of Daine Laurie? I'd choose Laurie every day of the week.

I agree, but we tried to get DWZ and he rejected us.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

Chose $$ over Madge which was a terrible decision let’s remember the club 90 percent of the time have now refused to pay overs for players which should put us in good shape starting from next year one good thing the club are doing

Everyone said we'd be in good shape for this year. Now it's next year. Early next year we'll be talking about 2023.

 

[tiger05premier]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

Players choose the Dogs because they throw money like drunken sailors. I am very thankful that we are now managing our salary cap as well as can be expected. No point splurging massively on a JAC if it means you're then stuck with a hopeless pack that will get routinely dominated. Bulldogs will be a long term train wreck.

Well said

 

[Geo]

John Morris is a very presentable face for WTs. Tertiary qualified and an impressive regime including the Sharks Elite Junior Development Academy.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/john-morris-a32065ab

There is only one coach that can do the job outside of Maguire and that’s Shane Flanagan.
The roster needs to be culled. No one will go any good changing coaches is pointless.

The team is B grade


Agree with you on Flanagan. Some of us however seem to want someone to cuddle the existing non performing players and are offering opinions based on current players holding their spots and "magically" turning their form around.

So are we at the point of a Hail Mary...?

 

[tiger05premier]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

And that was it for me, the Madge is a good player repellant was no myth, it just got busted that day, his name is atop of the coaches players least wanted to play under

Who really cares if DWZ didn't come here? Would we be much better off with him here instead of Daine Laurie? I'd choose Laurie every day of the week.

Laurie was probably better when he was 10yo

 

[tony soprano]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

Chose $$ over Madge which was a terrible decision let’s remember the club 90 percent of the time have now refused to pay overs for players which should put us in good shape starting from next year one good thing the club are doing

Everyone said we'd be in good shape for this year. Now it's next year. Early next year we'll be talking about 2023.

Packer and mbye bro. $$$$

Unfortunately mbye contracted til 23 which will hurt us but packer money will help.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

Chose $$ over Madge which was a terrible decision let’s remember the club 90 percent of the time have now refused to pay overs for players which should put us in good shape starting from next year one good thing the club are doing

Everyone said we'd be in good shape for this year. Now it's next year. Early next year we'll be talking about 2023.

Packer and mbye bro. $$$$

Unfortunately mbye contracted til 23 which will hurt us but packer money will help.

No point having a lot of money if we can't sign anyone.

 

[TillLindemann]

Think this is worth a listen.
https://youtu.be/fwL3Pl3JjLs

Just listening to that. Agree completely.

Problem is I’m not confident he’s getting the say he should around player signings. Probably due to the mess Ivan created.

Yep, can't stand Kent but he's got this right. The irony is yesterday they were playing to celebrate the career of one of the toughest players you'd ever see and they showed none of the guts he showed week in and week out. In my opinion they are 5 imported players away from winning games on a regular basis and I can't see where they are going to come from.

Whilst I agree the players are not superstars, Madge can't attract the players we need, he has a really bad reputation, and that is a huge hurdle that we can't overcome, I still say sack him

That's just a garbage myth that gets recycled endlessly. He has a great reputation with players, and players who previously knew him from outside the Tigers have willingly re-joined him here. Adam D, Zane Musgrove are two off the top of my head, but there's more.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more, we have not been able to land one in demand player, or even one player with a couple of clubs chasing him since Madge arrived, it is no coincidence
Latrell, JAC, Burton, Arrow, Capewell, there are more, hell even DWZ

DWZ chose Dean Pay over Madge.

And that was it for me, the Madge is a good player repellant was no myth, it just got busted that day, his name is atop of the coaches players least wanted to play under

Who really cares if DWZ didn't come here? Would we be much better off with him here instead of Daine Laurie? I'd choose Laurie every day of the week.

I agree, but we tried to get DWZ and he rejected us.

He would have been happy to sign here, but Dogs offered more. Happens all the time, to every club.