Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[Krammy]

Watch the dressingroom before/halftime/after the game, he’s lost them. Just yelling and swearing at them over and over again gets old quick!
I know there is not much on offer but I would take the drug cheat any day over this hoax. Our season is done and he still picks Chee Kim who won’t be here next year, instead of giving Ogden or Cini a go at centre, he’s got no idea.
We are just wasting more years with him there. My problem with Flanagan is how would he work with sheens? They don’t seem like they would mix.

My brother played under Gould in the early 90's at Penrith and he has maintained his friendship with him ever since. Not long they had a catch up and Gould said to him that you have 2 blasts a year at the most and that's it, otherwise the blast loses its effect and you can lose the players - so you need to be really careful with when you get up your players. I just watched NRL 360 and when Blocker was asked of his opinion he said yelling and screaming doesn't work. He too said once or twice a year only. I just don't think Madge is the man to take this group forward and I have very real doubts he will want to work with Sheens

 

[TYGA]

Yesterday the Tigers looked lost in attack and shakey in defense but what’s new?

Madge is done.

Right now I would take Flanagan as coach only because when he coached Cronulla he had them defend very well. I don’t care about peptides, that’s history. I want a coach that can get the team to defend.

Some will say that he had a team of old heads, players that had loads of experience. Well he put them there over a number of years, he built that team. No-one can argue that they weren’t a good defensive unit.

I want a coach who can get a team to defend well. That’s all, is that too hard?

From your keyboard , but every word could have been from my own… Flanagan coaches strong, committed football teams that can get down and dirty and win however it needs to be done… players perform for him, he knows how to build a “team” out of players that compliment each other and his teams play what’s in front of them..the Cronulla grand final team took down Melbourne in their prime, even set a record for consecutive wins and they were good to watch. Tough and entertaining, but most importantly they used to fight to win, they were competitors, and in my estimation they were representative of the coaches own personality… Flanagan is smart and his a hard head, we need that at this club, he bought an identity to that Cronulla club and we need that desperately at the West’s tigers… he would be perfect, the right man at the exact right time….. cmon Justin “guns” Pascoe, bring Shane to Tiger Town!

He hasn't achieved anything without cheating.

You may see it that way. Many other people do not….

Im with cochise.....we have morals...

Yet look at the players Madge has brought to the club or tried to attract, hardly clean skins how does that sit with your morals?

Pretty good because none of them tried to inject illegal substances into players to gain an unfair advantage...

I suppose your morals a far different to mine...Im old school ....better your self fairly and treat competition they way you want to be treated yourself...

sorry if this doesnt suit your moral compass....

I don’t support anyone using illegal substances but he served his punishment which is no different to the players here that have also paid their dues so it is fair game.

He shouldn't be allowed to be around young players, he has shown he can not be trusted in that role. It is not worth risking the young people the club is responsible for.

This is the issue when our recruitment targets are all young as is our squad. Madge has his faults but bringing young players on and having trust of parents to bring kids in is his strength. That was proven at Souths and appears to be showing at Wests with our best players all young.

 

[jirskyr]

I'd go for Shane Flanagan. Players seem to like him. What we have ain't working.

No thank you

I agree....big no for flanagan

1. Sack Maguire

For who?

Separate issues. Maguire's sacking is not dependent upon a replacement.

As is often said, "better the devil you know".

To sack Maguire without a continuity plan, without some confidence of a replacement - that's mismanagement. One of your least sensible suggestions.

Multi national companies and Federal/State Department change CEOs and Directors routinely. Changing a football coach cannot be too difficult

And you conveniently forget we have Sheens and Hartigan to provide continuity.

You show me a big company that changes the CEO, except for unlawful activity, without having the replacement already lined up. Business suicide and your stocks will tank.

Removing a football coach isn't difficult - just tell him not to come back. Replacing a football coach is very difficult.

I didn't conveniently forget anything. You want a 70 year old ex-coach who hasn't been in the country for several years to caretake for an unspecified time until we replace the head coach? And a football general manager to help him.

I'm sorry it's a dumb suggestion to remove a coach without a proper replacement. By all means, go sign up Ciraldo or someone else (no drug or suspension cheats thanks) and let Madge finish the season, or install a caretaker if Madge quits a la John Morris, but don't just hook him with no proper replacement lined up.

Where did I write I expected Sheens to be coach or a caretaker?

Appointing a younger coach like Morris with Sheens to provide guidance is a reasonable outcome. It cannot be any worse than the banquet of bullshit that is being produced currently.

I did also mention appointing a caretaker coach whilst a robust recruitment process identifies a replacement. That can occur this year whilst a caretaker coach restores confidence in the playing group.

Mate how can Tim Sheens provide continuity for Madge being sacked? The bloke isn't even in the country. This season has 5 rounds to go, there's no point doing anything with season 2021, the new bloke wouldn't even get his feet wet.

If you were going to do it, you'd advise Madge that he's not being retained, let him see out the year, get the new guy now and have the new guy prep for the off-season. That's the smart way to do the transition.

And I'll say again - "not being worse" than the current predicament is a very bad benchmark to be setting. I want the new coach to be very strong odds of putting in a much better performance than 2019-2021, not another limp into 9th or 10th place. Madge has proven he can get us to 9th.

 

[jirskyr]

Yesterday the Tigers looked lost in attack and shakey in defense but what’s new?

Madge is done.

Right now I would take Flanagan as coach only because when he coached Cronulla he had them defend very well. I don’t care about peptides, that’s history. I want a coach that can get the team to defend.

Some will say that he had a team of old heads, players that had loads of experience. Well he put them there over a number of years, he built that team. No-one can argue that they weren’t a good defensive unit.

I want a coach who can get a team to defend well. That’s all, is that too hard?

From your keyboard , but every word could have been from my own… Flanagan coaches strong, committed football teams that can get down and dirty and win however it needs to be done… players perform for him, he knows how to build a “team” out of players that compliment each other and his teams play what’s in front of them..the Cronulla grand final team took down Melbourne in their prime, even set a record for consecutive wins and they were good to watch. Tough and entertaining, but most importantly they used to fight to win, they were competitors, and in my estimation they were representative of the coaches own personality… Flanagan is smart and his a hard head, we need that at this club, he bought an identity to that Cronulla club and we need that desperately at the West’s tigers… he would be perfect, the right man at the exact right time….. cmon Justin “guns” Pascoe, bring Shane to Tiger Town!

He hasn't achieved anything without cheating.

You may see it that way. Many other people do not….

Im with cochise.....we have morals...

Yet look at the players Madge has brought to the club or tried to attract, hardly clean skins how does that sit with your morals?

Pretty good because none of them tried to inject illegal substances into players to gain an unfair advantage...

I suppose your morals a far different to mine...Im old school ....better your self fairly and treat competition they way you want to be treated yourself...

sorry if this doesnt suit your moral compass....

I don’t support anyone using illegal substances but he served his punishment which is no different to the players here that have also paid their dues so it is fair game.

Tell me then, you forgive Melbourne Storm for rorting the cap during those premiership seasons? Tim Simona is forgiven too?

Personally I think it's one thing to have off-field indiscretions that you can legitimately do your time for. Rusty Packer went to jail, so did Manu Ma'u... that's how society deals with and attempts to reform criminal acts.

But in-game cheats, for me, that's something entirely different. Drug cheats too. How can you take anyone seriously for the rest of their career if they are a proven drug cheat? How can you assure yourself they won't do that again, won't cheat, aren't using performance enhancers ever again? Tainted for life I'm afraid.

 

[jirskyr]

Watch the dressingroom before/halftime/after the game, he’s lost them. Just yelling and swearing at them over and over again gets old quick!
I know there is not much on offer but I would take the drug cheat any day over this hoax. Our season is done and he still picks Chee Kim who won’t be here next year, instead of giving Ogden or Cini a go at centre, he’s got no idea.
We are just wasting more years with him there. My problem with Flanagan is how would he work with sheens? They don’t seem like they would mix.

My brother played under Gould in the early 90's at Penrith and he has maintained his friendship with him ever since. Not long they had a catch up and Gould said to him that you have 2 blasts a year at the most and that's it, otherwise the blast loses its effect and you can lose the players - so you need to be really careful with when you get up your players. I just watched NRL 360 and when Blocker was asked of his opinion he said yelling and screaming doesn't work. He too said once or twice a year only. I just don't think Madge is the man to take this group forward and I have very real doubts he will want to work with Sheens

I appreciate Gould's opinion, but you are telling me Craig Bellamy only gives people a serve once or twice a year? I mean, his team is so good he may only need the occasional blow-up, but the bloke is wound tighter than a mummy.

 

[Needaname]

I know you were ripping into him, but listen to what Mbye says in regards to how he interpreted the job of Madge as coach of the Wests Tigers. He lists off roles far beyond the scope of a regular coach. And then to be critical of Mbye, it doesn’t appear his assisting in any of those roles.

 

[Krammy]

I'd go for Shane Flanagan. Players seem to like him. What we have ain't working.

No thank you

I agree....big no for flanagan

1. Sack Maguire

For who?

Separate issues. Maguire's sacking is not dependent upon a replacement.

As is often said, "better the devil you know".

To sack Maguire without a continuity plan, without some confidence of a replacement - that's mismanagement. One of your least sensible suggestions.

Multi national companies and Federal/State Department change CEOs and Directors routinely. Changing a football coach cannot be too difficult

And you conveniently forget we have Sheens and Hartigan to provide continuity.

You show me a big company that changes the CEO, except for unlawful activity, without having the replacement already lined up. Business suicide and your stocks will tank.

Removing a football coach isn't difficult - just tell him not to come back. Replacing a football coach is very difficult.

I didn't conveniently forget anything. You want a 70 year old ex-coach who hasn't been in the country for several years to caretake for an unspecified time until we replace the head coach? And a football general manager to help him.

I'm sorry it's a dumb suggestion to remove a coach without a proper replacement. By all means, go sign up Ciraldo or someone else (no drug or suspension cheats thanks) and let Madge finish the season, or install a caretaker if Madge quits a la John Morris, but don't just hook him with no proper replacement lined up.

Where did I write I expected Sheens to be coach or a caretaker?

Appointing a younger coach like Morris with Sheens to provide guidance is a reasonable outcome. It cannot be any worse than the banquet of bullshit that is being produced currently.

I did also mention appointing a caretaker coach whilst a robust recruitment process identifies a replacement. That can occur this year whilst a caretaker coach restores confidence in the playing group.

I would argue that the caretaker coach should be Gardiner, who has done really well with the NSW cup side. He could not do any worse than Madge and who knows, maybe he can connect with and bring out the best in the NRL players. After all, he works with a number of players who experience first grade from time to time already. The fact that this team was performing well suggests he has a positive relationship with the players and some tactical nous.

 

[tony soprano]

Watch the dressingroom before/halftime/after the game, he’s lost them. Just yelling and swearing at them over and over again gets old quick!
I know there is not much on offer but I would take the drug cheat any day over this hoax. Our season is done and he still picks Chee Kim who won’t be here next year, instead of giving Ogden or Cini a go at centre, he’s got no idea.
We are just wasting more years with him there. My problem with Flanagan is how would he work with sheens? They don’t seem like they would mix.

My brother played under Gould in the early 90's at Penrith and he has maintained his friendship with him ever since. Not long they had a catch up and Gould said to him that you have 2 blasts a year at the most and that's it, otherwise the blast loses its effect and you can lose the players - so you need to be really careful with when you get up your players. I just watched NRL 360 and when Blocker was asked of his opinion he said yelling and screaming doesn't work. He too said once or twice a year only. I just don't think Madge is the man to take this group forward and I have very real doubts he will want to work with Sheens

I appreciate Gould's opinion, but you are telling me Craig Bellamy only gives people a serve once or twice a year? I mean, his team is so good he may only need the occasional blow-up, but the bloke is wound tighter than a mummy.

I think our season and lack of leaders called for it. Madge does need to learn to delegate more seems a bit of a control freak.

 

[Alltheway]

Watch the dressingroom before/halftime/after the game, he’s lost them. Just yelling and swearing at them over and over again gets old quick!
I know there is not much on offer but I would take the drug cheat any day over this hoax. Our season is done and he still picks Chee Kim who won’t be here next year, instead of giving Ogden or Cini a go at centre, he’s got no idea.
We are just wasting more years with him there. My problem with Flanagan is how would he work with sheens? They don’t seem like they would mix.

My brother played under Gould in the early 90's at Penrith and he has maintained his friendship with him ever since. Not long they had a catch up and Gould said to him that you have 2 blasts a year at the most and that's it, otherwise the blast loses its effect and you can lose the players - so you need to be really careful with when you get up your players. I just watched NRL 360 and when Blocker was asked of his opinion he said yelling and screaming doesn't work. He too said once or twice a year only. I just don't think Madge is the man to take this group forward and I have very real doubts he will want to work with Sheens

I appreciate Gould's opinion, but you are telling me Craig Bellamy only gives people a serve once or twice a year? I mean, his team is so good he may only need the occasional blow-up, but the bloke is wound tighter than a mummy.

I think our season and lack of leaders called for it. Madge does need to learn to delegate more seems a bit of a control freak.

 

[Alltheway]

Watch the dressingroom before/halftime/after the game, he’s lost them. Just yelling and swearing at them over and over again gets old quick!
I know there is not much on offer but I would take the drug cheat any day over this hoax. Our season is done and he still picks Chee Kim who won’t be here next year, instead of giving Ogden or Cini a go at centre, he’s got no idea.
We are just wasting more years with him there. My problem with Flanagan is how would he work with sheens? They don’t seem like they would mix.

My brother played under Gould in the early 90's at Penrith and he has maintained his friendship with him ever since. Not long they had a catch up and Gould said to him that you have 2 blasts a year at the most and that's it, otherwise the blast loses its effect and you can lose the players - so you need to be really careful with when you get up your players. I just watched NRL 360 and when Blocker was asked of his opinion he said yelling and screaming doesn't work. He too said once or twice a year only. I just don't think Madge is the man to take this group forward and I have very real doubts he will want to work with Sheens

I appreciate Gould's opinion, but you are telling me Craig Bellamy only gives people a serve once or twice a year? I mean, his team is so good he may only need the occasional blow-up, but the bloke is wound tighter than a mummy.

I think our season and lack of leaders called for it. Madge does need to learn to delegate more seems a bit of a control freak.

He’s got the snoop!

 

[Alltheway]

The players aren’t talking before games because they are over the Madge crap. Seriously how many times does he say eyes up?? They don’t even want to look at him. I have it on good authority that the player the old alcho was referring to as disgruntled with the club is Luciano, he like most of the new gen players are way not into the yelling crap. They’re looking for a caress not a slap!
I get there’s not much options but Madge is just going to get us in a worse situation.
Why do u think they went after sheens, the club knows he is struggling big time and they’re praying that the sheens can save them.

 

[iofthetigers]

Yesterday the Tigers looked lost in attack and shakey in defense but what’s new?

Madge is done.

Right now I would take Flanagan as coach only because when he coached Cronulla he had them defend very well. I don’t care about peptides, that’s history. I want a coach that can get the team to defend.

Some will say that he had a team of old heads, players that had loads of experience. Well he put them there over a number of years, he built that team. No-one can argue that they weren’t a good defensive unit.

I want a coach who can get a team to defend well. That’s all, is that too hard?

From your keyboard , but every word could have been from my own… Flanagan coaches strong, committed football teams that can get down and dirty and win however it needs to be done… players perform for him, he knows how to build a “team” out of players that compliment each other and his teams play what’s in front of them..the Cronulla grand final team took down Melbourne in their prime, even set a record for consecutive wins and they were good to watch. Tough and entertaining, but most importantly they used to fight to win, they were competitors, and in my estimation they were representative of the coaches own personality… Flanagan is smart and his a hard head, we need that at this club, he bought an identity to that Cronulla club and we need that desperately at the West’s tigers… he would be perfect, the right man at the exact right time….. cmon Justin “guns” Pascoe, bring Shane to Tiger Town!

He hasn't achieved anything without cheating.

You may see it that way. Many other people do not….

Im with cochise.....we have morals...

Yet look at the players Madge has brought to the club or tried to attract, hardly clean skins how does that sit with your morals?

Pretty good because none of them tried to inject illegal substances into players to gain an unfair advantage...

I suppose your morals a far different to mine...Im old school ....better your self fairly and treat competition they way you want to be treated yourself...

sorry if this doesnt suit your moral compass....

I don’t support anyone using illegal substances but he served his punishment which is no different to the players here that have also paid their dues so it is fair game.

Tell me then, you forgive Melbourne Storm for rorting the cap during those premiership seasons? Tim Simona is forgiven too?

Personally I think it's one thing to have off-field indiscretions that you can legitimately do your time for. Rusty Packer went to jail, so did Manu Ma'u... that's how society deals with and attempts to reform criminal acts.

But in-game cheats, for me, that's something entirely different. Drug cheats too. How can you take anyone seriously for the rest of their career if they are a proven drug cheat? How can you assure yourself they won't do that again, won't cheat, aren't using performance enhancers ever again? Tainted for life I'm afraid.

Fair point,however I am not Jesus, I don’t need to forgive anyone, I have never said I condone any illegal activity, nor do I need to burden myself with anything I can’t control, all I am saying is it is hypocritical to crucify Flannogan but support someone with a past like Roberts.

 

[TrueTiger]

The players aren’t talking before games because they are over the Madge crap. Seriously how many times does he say eyes up?? They don’t even want to look at him. I have it on good authority that the player the old alcho was referring to as disgruntled with the club is Luciano, he like most of the new gen players are way not into the yelling crap. They’re looking for a caress not a slap!
I get there’s not much options but Madge is just going to get us in a worse situation.
Why do u think they went after sheens, the club knows he is struggling big time and they’re praying that the sheens can save them.

LL has faults,Brooks has faults they all have faults including Madge,,,,but to solely lay blame on Madge is a very poor calculation....

 

[Krammy]

Watch the dressingroom before/halftime/after the game, he’s lost them. Just yelling and swearing at them over and over again gets old quick!
I know there is not much on offer but I would take the drug cheat any day over this hoax. Our season is done and he still picks Chee Kim who won’t be here next year, instead of giving Ogden or Cini a go at centre, he’s got no idea.
We are just wasting more years with him there. My problem with Flanagan is how would he work with sheens? They don’t seem like they would mix.

My brother played under Gould in the early 90's at Penrith and he has maintained his friendship with him ever since. Not long they had a catch up and Gould said to him that you have 2 blasts a year at the most and that's it, otherwise the blast loses its effect and you can lose the players - so you need to be really careful with when you get up your players. I just watched NRL 360 and when Blocker was asked of his opinion he said yelling and screaming doesn't work. He too said once or twice a year only. I just don't think Madge is the man to take this group forward and I have very real doubts he will want to work with Sheens

I appreciate Gould's opinion, but you are telling me Craig Bellamy only gives people a serve once or twice a year? I mean, his team is so good he may only need the occasional blow-up, but the bloke is wound tighter than a mummy.

That is a fair call. We all see him ranting and raving when in the coaching box, but I don't know that he screams at his players a lot. I think he would lose their respect if he did. He would pick his times, no doubt for maximum effect. Not sure with Bellamy, but I hardly ever see Bennett or Robinson ranting at their players. For that matter, even wound up Ricky Stuart seems calm in the dressing shed for the most part. When I hear one of the toughest blokes to play the game, Blocker Roach, say screaming all the time doesn't work, I take notice.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Watch the dressingroom before/halftime/after the game, he’s lost them. Just yelling and swearing at them over and over again gets old quick!
I know there is not much on offer but I would take the drug cheat any day over this hoax. Our season is done and he still picks Chee Kim who won’t be here next year, instead of giving Ogden or Cini a go at centre, he’s got no idea.
We are just wasting more years with him there. My problem with Flanagan is how would he work with sheens? They don’t seem like they would mix.

To be fair he probably never really “had” them. Madge was seen to be the guy brought in with the tough approach to improve the soft mentality of the squad…

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I'd go for Shane Flanagan. Players seem to like him. What we have ain't working.

No thank you

I agree....big no for flanagan

1. Sack Maguire

For who?

Separate issues. Maguire's sacking is not dependent upon a replacement.

As is often said, "better the devil you know".

To sack Maguire without a continuity plan, without some confidence of a replacement - that's mismanagement. One of your least sensible suggestions.

Multi national companies and Federal/State Department change CEOs and Directors routinely. Changing a football coach cannot be too difficult

And you conveniently forget we have Sheens and Hartigan to provide continuity.

You show me a big company that changes the CEO, except for unlawful activity, without having the replacement already lined up. Business suicide and your stocks will tank.

Removing a football coach isn't difficult - just tell him not to come back. Replacing a football coach is very difficult.

I didn't conveniently forget anything. You want a 70 year old ex-coach who hasn't been in the country for several years to caretake for an unspecified time until we replace the head coach? And a football general manager to help him.

I'm sorry it's a dumb suggestion to remove a coach without a proper replacement. By all means, go sign up Ciraldo or someone else (no drug or suspension cheats thanks) and let Madge finish the season, or install a caretaker if Madge quits a la John Morris, but don't just hook him with no proper replacement lined up.

Where did I write I expected Sheens to be coach or a caretaker?

Appointing a younger coach like Morris with Sheens to provide guidance is a reasonable outcome. It cannot be any worse than the banquet of bullshit that is being produced currently.

I did also mention appointing a caretaker coach whilst a robust recruitment process identifies a replacement. That can occur this year whilst a caretaker coach restores confidence in the playing group.

I would argue that the caretaker coach should be Gardiner, who has done really well with the NSW cup side. He could not do any worse than Madge and who knows, maybe he can connect with and bring out the best in the NRL players. After all, he works with a number of players who experience first grade from time to time already. The fact that this team was performing well suggests he has a positive relationship with the players and some tactical nous.

Good post. I believe he could also restore confidence to the playing group as there doesn't appear to be a lot on display.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I'd go for Shane Flanagan. Players seem to like him. What we have ain't working.

No thank you

I agree....big no for flanagan

1. Sack Maguire

For who?

Separate issues. Maguire's sacking is not dependent upon a replacement.

As is often said, "better the devil you know".

To sack Maguire without a continuity plan, without some confidence of a replacement - that's mismanagement. One of your least sensible suggestions.

Multi national companies and Federal/State Department change CEOs and Directors routinely. Changing a football coach cannot be too difficult

And you conveniently forget we have Sheens and Hartigan to provide continuity.

You show me a big company that changes the CEO, except for unlawful activity, without having the replacement already lined up. Business suicide and your stocks will tank.

Removing a football coach isn't difficult - just tell him not to come back. Replacing a football coach is very difficult.

I didn't conveniently forget anything. You want a 70 year old ex-coach who hasn't been in the country for several years to caretake for an unspecified time until we replace the head coach? And a football general manager to help him.

I'm sorry it's a dumb suggestion to remove a coach without a proper replacement. By all means, go sign up Ciraldo or someone else (no drug or suspension cheats thanks) and let Madge finish the season, or install a caretaker if Madge quits a la John Morris, but don't just hook him with no proper replacement lined up.

Where did I write I expected Sheens to be coach or a caretaker?

Appointing a younger coach like Morris with Sheens to provide guidance is a reasonable outcome. It cannot be any worse than the banquet of bullshit that is being produced currently.

I did also mention appointing a caretaker coach whilst a robust recruitment process identifies a replacement. That can occur this year whilst a caretaker coach restores confidence in the playing group.

Mate how can Tim Sheens provide continuity for Madge being sacked? The bloke isn't even in the country. This season has 5 rounds to go, there's no point doing anything with season 2021, the new bloke wouldn't even get his feet wet.

If you were going to do it, you'd advise Madge that he's not being retained, let him see out the year, get the new guy now and have the new guy prep for the off-season. That's the smart way to do the transition.

And I'll say again - "not being worse" than the current predicament is a very bad benchmark to be setting. I want the new coach to be very strong odds of putting in a much better performance than 2019-2021, not another limp into 9th or 10th place. Madge has proven he can get us to 9th.

You didn't answer my question. Where did I write that I expected Sheens to be coach or caretaker?

Sheens has started work now according to the post on this forum yesterday. Seems like continuity has commenced. Imagine that!

Bring in the caretaker, or bring in a permanent replacement after the process. John Morris has always been my choice. Get rid of Maguire.

 

[twentyforty]

So apparently those who want Madge gone are not disputing his message but the way he delivers it? Does Madge have the ability to modify his delivery according to his audience? Or is he a one trick pony? Someone in the club needs to consistently deliver the message until it is accepted without questioning. I think the doco is not a true reflection. I doubt Madge is going off like an unserviceable lawn mower all the time.

 

[Demps]

Watch the dressingroom before/halftime/after the game, he’s lost them. Just yelling and swearing at them over and over again gets old quick!
I know there is not much on offer but I would take the drug cheat any day over this hoax. Our season is done and he still picks Chee Kim who won’t be here next year, instead of giving Ogden or Cini a go at centre, he’s got no idea.
We are just wasting more years with him there. My problem with Flanagan is how would he work with sheens? They don’t seem like they would mix.

Disappointing to see so many downvotes on this post.

Did everyone hear Blocker and Elias on 360 last night? A must watch.

Cliffs:

- Benny said he'd talk to his team mates and tell them weakness he saw on field, leadership role... did a lot of the chatting in the sheds

- Blocker said he wouldn't even listen to the coach in the sheds, he'd be doing his own thing and listen to his team mates.

- Blocker said none of the good coaches he had ever had to swear, yell and carry on like that. Message was simple.

- Blocker mentioned again, which he has stated a few times before that he believes a coach only has 1 or 2 real blow ups a year in them.
.
- Both said which Pk agreed with NO LEADERS in this group. Supposed to be a player rallying in the troops in the sheds, on the field.... without the exception of AD, there is NO ONE. Mentioned Tamou talks it up in the media then plays 5 minutes a half. Its a clear weakness we lack.

Adam Reynolds would've been great.
Nicho Hynes.

Something we have really lacked since Farah left.

 

[Demps]

So apparently those who want Madge gone are not disputing his message but the way he delivers it? Does Madge have the ability to modify his delivery according to his audience? Or is he a one trick pony? Someone in the club needs to consistently deliver the message until it is accepted without questioning. I think the doco is not a true reflection. I doubt Madge is going off like an unserviceable lawn mower all the time.

You borrowing Hoops' line? Lol.
"Going off like a second hand lawn more."

Please see my post previous lad.