Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[izotope]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.

I think it's madge not happy.

What’s to be happy about? This club has destroyed his reputation. He only has one way out and that’s to somehow get us playing finals. That’s if the club doesn’t sack him, which if they do, he’s cooked. He’ll never get another head coaching role again.

I think Madge has a fine reputation in the game having brought success back to Souths. People always leave WT and go on to bigger and better, you only have to look at how many former Tigers are playing/coaching in the finals.

Ask any souths fan if they would want Madge back.
I've asked plenty and yet to hear a yes.

 

[cochise]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.

I think it's madge not happy.

What’s to be happy about? This club has destroyed his reputation. He only has one way out and that’s to somehow get us playing finals. That’s if the club doesn’t sack him, which if they do, he’s cooked. He’ll never get another head coaching role again.

I think Madge has a fine reputation in the game having brought success back to Souths. People always leave WT and go on to bigger and better, you only have to look at how many former Tigers are playing/coaching in the finals.

How many former Wests Tigers coaches are coaching in the NRL finals?

Chins pop

The only Wests Tigers coach to ever get another NRL job.

 

[BAGNF05]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.

I think it's madge not happy.

What’s to be happy about? This club has destroyed his reputation. He only has one way out and that’s to somehow get us playing finals. That’s if the club doesn’t sack him, which if they do, he’s cooked. He’ll never get another head coaching role again.

I think Madge has a fine reputation in the game having brought success back to Souths. ***People always leave WT and go on to bigger and better,*** you only have to look at how many former Tigers are playing/coaching in the finals.

Ummmmmm Wayne Pearce, Terry Lamb, Michael Potter and Jason Taylor wave hello.

They’re not at our club so by definition they are somewhere bigger and better, we’re a tier above Centrelink

At the risk of sounding like the daily Telegraph, I could name a full team of former Wests Tigers players in top eight teams, including a coach and bench. They say hi.

 

[cochise]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.

I think it's madge not happy.

What’s to be happy about? This club has destroyed his reputation. He only has one way out and that’s to somehow get us playing finals. That’s if the club doesn’t sack him, which if they do, he’s cooked. He’ll never get another head coaching role again.

I think Madge has a fine reputation in the game having brought success back to Souths. ***People always leave WT and go on to bigger and better,*** you only have to look at how many former Tigers are playing/coaching in the finals.

Ummmmmm Wayne Pearce, Terry Lamb, Michael Potter and Jason Taylor wave hello.

They’re not at our club so by definition they are somewhere bigger and better, we’re a tier above Centrelink

Wests Tigers= NRL coaching career death row.

 

[BAGNF05]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.

I think it's madge not happy.

What’s to be happy about? This club has destroyed his reputation. He only has one way out and that’s to somehow get us playing finals. That’s if the club doesn’t sack him, which if they do, he’s cooked. He’ll never get another head coaching role again.

I think Madge has a fine reputation in the game having brought success back to Souths. ***People always leave WT and go on to bigger and better,*** you only have to look at how many former Tigers are playing/coaching in the finals.

Ummmmmm Wayne Pearce, Terry Lamb, Michael Potter and Jason Taylor wave hello.

They’re not at our club so by definition they are somewhere bigger and better, we’re a tier above Centrelink

Wests Tigers= NRL coaching career death row.

Three out of the four mentioned were just dud hires as they’re not good coaches. Potter will get another gig if he wants one.

 

[BZN]

The board members are just making sure any references to them are deleted

Are the references to the Board deleted or redacted?
As the DaBoss would say "I'll see myself out".

 

[yeahcaz]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.

I think it's madge not happy.

What’s to be happy about? This club has destroyed his reputation. He only has one way out and that’s to somehow get us playing finals. That’s if the club doesn’t sack him, which if they do, he’s cooked. He’ll never get another head coaching role again.

He’s done himself no favours either.

As it’s been mentioned over 100 times, we’ve got worse every year with this supposed great coach who’s won a comp in Australia and The UK and is the current coach of a top 3 international. Not to mention none of those accolades have helped him land a big name signing. You can blame recruitment on other parts of the organisation but at the end of the day, you are playing for the coach. I also understand our recruitment has never really been that good but it does feel like it’s at its worse ever under Maguire.

You can blame rule changes all you like too but every other good coach has adjusted to them and it’s concerning 2 years in that Madge and his coaching staff seem to have no answer for them. If this review just sacks his assistants, that’s incredibly poor considering they were picked by Madge.

I also see numerous people say “if we sack Madge we have to start again” we really don’t. All I can see is Madges work in the background with youth and bringing young players to the club when his main priority should be getting the first grade side to fire. Show me a supporter who says Madge has built anything with first grade and I’ll show you a liar. The defence is awful, the attack is just as bad, so bad that I think if you do a bit of digging, majority of our points have been scored when we’re chasing games. There’s no consistent shape or plays and there is no identity to the team. We’re not a flashy attacking team, we’re not a gritty defensive team, we are not a team. South’s fans were happy to see the back of him and manly fans are rejoicing they never got him, he is done in the NRL.

 

[BAGNF05]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.

I think it's madge not happy.

What’s to be happy about? This club has destroyed his reputation. He only has one way out and that’s to somehow get us playing finals. That’s if the club doesn’t sack him, which if they do, he’s cooked. He’ll never get another head coaching role again.

He’s done himself no favours either.

As it’s been mentioned over 100 times, we’ve got worse every year with this supposed great coach who’s won a comp in Australia and The UK and is the current coach of a top 3 international. Not to mention none of those accolades have helped him land a big name signing. You can blame recruitment on other parts of the organisation but at the end of the day, you are playing for the coach. I also understand our recruitment has never really been that good but it does feel like it’s at its worse ever under Maguire.

You can blame rule changes all you like too but every other good coach has adjusted to them and it’s concerning 2 years in that Madge and his coaching staff seem to have no answer for them. If this review just sacks his assistants, that’s incredibly poor considering they were picked by Madge.

I also see numerous people say “if we sack Madge we have to start again” we really don’t. All I can see is Madges work in the background with youth and bringing young players to the club when his main priority should be getting the first grade side to fire. Show me a supporter who says Madge has built anything with first grade and I’ll show you a liar. The defence is awful, the attack is just as bad, so bad that I think if you do a bit of digging, majority of our points have been scored when we’re chasing games. There’s no consistent shape or plays and there is no identity to the team. We’re not a flashy attacking team, we’re not a gritty defensive team, we are not a team. South’s fans were happy to see the back of him and manly fans are rejoicing they never got him, he is done in the NRL.

His biggest mistakes were

1. Taking on a role when our cap was in such a putrid state, full of overpaid entitled hacks just in it for the money.
2. Stating publicly he could do something with the roster.
3. Proceeding to turn us into last chance U

Honesty is the best policy Madge, Pascoe handed you a lemon.

 

[PJ_]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.

I think it's madge not happy.

What’s to be happy about? This club has destroyed his reputation. He only has one way out and that’s to somehow get us playing finals. That’s if the club doesn’t sack him, which if they do, he’s cooked. He’ll never get another head coaching role again.

He’s done himself no favours either.

As it’s been mentioned over 100 times, we’ve got worse every year with this supposed great coach who’s won a comp in Australia and The UK and is the current coach of a top 3 international. Not to mention none of those accolades have helped him land a big name signing. You can blame recruitment on other parts of the organisation but at the end of the day, you are playing for the coach. I also understand our recruitment has never really been that good but it does feel like it’s at its worse ever under Maguire.

You can blame rule changes all you like too but every other good coach has adjusted to them and it’s concerning 2 years in that Madge and his coaching staff seem to have no answer for them. If this review just sacks his assistants, that’s incredibly poor considering they were picked by Madge.

I also see numerous people say “if we sack Madge we have to start again” we really don’t. All I can see is Madges work in the background with youth and bringing young players to the club when his main priority should be getting the first grade side to fire. Show me a supporter who says Madge has built anything with first grade and I’ll show you a liar. The defence is awful, the attack is just as bad, so bad that I think if you do a bit of digging, majority of our points have been scored when we’re chasing games. There’s no consistent shape or plays and there is no identity to the team. We’re not a flashy attacking team, we’re not a gritty defensive team, we are not a team. South’s fans were happy to see the back of him and manly fans are rejoicing they never got him, he is done in the NRL.

His biggest mistakes were

1. Taking on a role when our cap was in such a putrid state, full of overpaid entitled hacks just in it for the money.
2. Stating publicly he could do something with the roster.
3. Proceeding to turn us into last chance U

Honesty is the best policy Madge, Pascoe handed you a lemon.

You screw the cat, you wear the scratches

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.


You do realise it could also be a total figment of your imagination.

I can’t see the link between the review being drawn out and waiting for Ciraldo to finish with the Panthers. The club can still sack Madge in the meantime and announce Ciraldo when his duties are fulfilled.

I can see the link. Possibly the consensus of the board is the only coach worth paying out Madge's contract for is Ciraldo, who has said he won't talk until after Penrith are out of the finals. If he says no, they'll probably retain Madge as a puppet head coach with Sheens and the new assistants doing the vast majority of the work until Madge eventually quits.

I think they don’t want to pay him out two years so are setting up structures that would make his position almost powerless. I can’t imagine someone like madge accepting this. Hopefully they are negotiating a payout as we speak .

Consistent with Gould's comment that Sheens' appointment as Coaching Director is shrewd.

 

[weststigerman]

Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.


You do realise it could also be a total figment of your imagination.

I can’t see the link between the review being drawn out and waiting for Ciraldo to finish with the Panthers. The club can still sack Madge in the meantime and announce Ciraldo when his duties are fulfilled.

I can see the link. Possibly the consensus of the board is the only coach worth paying out Madge's contract for is Ciraldo, who has said he won't talk until after Penrith are out of the finals. If he says no, they'll probably retain Madge as a puppet head coach with Sheens and the new assistants doing the vast majority of the work until Madge eventually quits.

I think they don’t want to pay him out two years so are setting up structures that would make his position almost powerless. I can’t imagine someone like madge accepting this. Hopefully they are negotiating a payout as we speak .

Consistent with Gould's comment that Sheens' appointment as Coaching Director is shrewd.

Gould also said “they shouldn’t sack Maguire”.

 

[Terry T.Nuts]

Anyone who thinks Ciraldo would risk his future career by coming here is dreaming. It will either be Flanagan or Toovey or some other drop kick. Ciraldo isn't a moron, better gigs will come in time and he will be patient.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Anyone who thinks Ciraldo would risk his future career by coming here is dreaming. It will either be Flanagan or Toovey or some other drop kick. Ciraldo isn't a moron, better gigs will come in time and he will be patient.

So why don’t Flanagan or Toovey (who is completely off the radar and probably won’t ever coach again) not wait for a better gig? Are they morons?

 

[mike]

Anyone who thinks Ciraldo would risk his future career by coming here is dreaming. It will either be Flanagan or Toovey or some other drop kick. Ciraldo isn't a moron, better gigs will come in time and he will be patient.

So why don’t Flanagan or Toovey (who is completely off the radar and probably won’t ever coach again) not wait for a better gig? Are they morons?

Dunno about Toovey but Flanagan is.

 

[Geo]

Flanagan wants Arthur's job..

 

[cochise]

Flanagan wants Arthur's job..

Perfect fit.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Flanagan wants Arthur's job..

Doe anyone want Madge’s job?

 

[Geo]

Flanagan wants Arthur's job..

Doe anyone want Madge’s job?

Doubt anyone wants the job..

 

[cochise]

Flanagan wants Arthur's job..

Doe anyone want Madge’s job?

Doubt anyone wants the job..

For some reason Madge still does.

 

[Snake]

Flanagan wants Arthur's job..

Doe anyone want Madge’s job?

Doubt anyone wants the job..

Its sad that there is so many underachievers and non risk takers in the footy world these days .. my take the Tigers are a massive upside deal for any aspiring coach that wants to stamp his authority on the organisation ! It’s all there to have just needs someone to take it ! Leadership and vision is all that’s needed ..