Magpies NSW cup coach change

wtfl1981

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Apparently leo is replacing trevor schodel affective immediately as coach of magpies nsw cup side after horrid start to season
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Dont know if it is the right career move for Leo.

He was bought in to work with the entire WT coaching structure which would have been beneficial long term.

Have to admire his passion though.

Will be interesting what, if any, depth players Leo takes with him to the Pies
 
@smeghead said:
Dont know if it is the right career move for Leo.

He was bought in to work with the entire WT coaching structure which would have been beneficial long term.

Have to admire his passion though.

Will be interesting what, if any, depth players Leo takes with him to the Pies

What will be more interesting is how they will perform. If anyone can get the best out of them, Leo will be the one to do so.
 
@Wacko Jacko said:
Don't want to get into Politics but why cannot we have just 1 team in NSW Cup call Wests Tigers

May be a reality in 2013

Expect an announcement around june 30

How its operated (where/who) and financial situation with balmain leagues/fc may come into play.
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If this is true, then I feel sorry for Trevor Schodel. He wasnt given much to work with, and I hope this experience hasnt dented his confidence in coaching.
 
I'm trying not to sound harsh , but what will this fix ??

Leo doesn't have the cattle to work with the same as Trevor didn't

I still maintain it is a disgrace what has happened For me this is still the darkest time in Wests Tigers history and they should not of let it get to this stage

To let the Wests Magpies end like this is disgusting and I hope the people who let it happen are proud of themselves

At least they could of let us die with some dignity
 
@happy tiger said:
I'm trying not to sound harsh , but what will this fix ??

Leo doesn't have the cattle to work with the same as Trevor didn't

I still maintain it is a disgrace what has happened For me this is still the darkest time in Wests Tigers history and they should not of let it get to this stage

To let the Wests Magpies end like this is disgusting and I hope the people who let it happen are proud of themselves

At least they could of let us die with some dignity

As sad as it is, didn't the Magpies do this to themselves?

Wests Tigers made a decision for its long term brand, but the Magpies rebuked any support and chose to field a team in the NSW Cup on their own.

Beleive all the fluff peices you like, but this is the outcome of their actions, their actions alone?!
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@happy tiger said:
I'm trying not to sound harsh , but what will this fix ??

Leo doesn't have the cattle to work with the same as Trevor didn't

I still maintain it is a disgrace what has happened For me this is still the darkest time in Wests Tigers history and they should not of let it get to this stage

To let the Wests Magpies end like this is disgusting and I hope the people who let it happen are proud of themselves

At least they could of let us die with some dignity

As sad as it is, didn't the Magpies do this to themselves?

Wests Tigers made a decision for its long term brand, but the Magpies rebuked any support and chose to field a team in the NSW Cup on their own.

Beleive all the fluff peices you like, but this is the outcome of their actions, their actions alone?!

I understand where you are coming from with this point of view Watto , but you have to admit it is a bad look for the Tigers , no matter what decisions either party has taken . And I would feel the same way whether it was Wests or Balmain . These clubs are having their last hurrahs in the sunset .
Having seen my Panthers in Brisbane die exactly the same way (They lost every game in their last season also ) this is painful to watch for a proud foundation club

I agree that the Wests Tigers is the way of the future , but we (as a joint venture) should of found a better end for both sides of the venture
 
@happy tiger said:
@Tiger Watto said:
@happy tiger said:
I'm trying not to sound harsh , but what will this fix ??

Leo doesn't have the cattle to work with the same as Trevor didn't

I still maintain it is a disgrace what has happened For me this is still the darkest time in Wests Tigers history and they should not of let it get to this stage

To let the Wests Magpies end like this is disgusting and I hope the people who let it happen are proud of themselves

At least they could of let us die with some dignity

As sad as it is, didn't the Magpies do this to themselves?

Wests Tigers made a decision for its long term brand, but the Magpies rebuked any support and chose to field a team in the NSW Cup on their own.

Beleive all the fluff peices you like, but this is the outcome of their actions, their actions alone?!

I understand where you are coming from with this point of view Watto , but you have to admit it is a bad look for the Tigers , no matter what decisions either party has taken . And I would feel the same way whether it was Wests or Balmain . These clubs are having their last hurrahs in the sunset .
Having seen my Panthers in Brisbane die exactly the same way (They lost every game in their last season also ) this is painful to watch for a proud foundation club

I agree that the Wests Tigers is the way of the future , but we (as a joint venture) should of found a better end for both sides of the venture

MATE!! Post of the year…
Whilst I agree (From progression and the best interest of WT's) That a single state cup team (Called Wests Tigers) Is the way forward. I don't care what they wear, Or where they Play..
As long as our Branding is there... I also don't like the Idea of the Wt's letting the Magpies get Belted into the dirt!!
It's a real credit to the guys they have playing for them to turn up week after week knowing an onslaught awaits them!!
Surely through the 3 grades there is a couple spare players that wouldn't hurt from a run?
I think that they possibly should be going to the Magpies instead of Burwood.... (If that is the case?)
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@happy tiger said:
I'm trying not to sound harsh , but what will this fix ??

Leo doesn't have the cattle to work with the same as Trevor didn't

I still maintain it is a disgrace what has happened For me this is still the darkest time in Wests Tigers history and they should not of let it get to this stage

To let the Wests Magpies end like this is disgusting and I hope the people who let it happen are proud of themselves

At least they could of let us die with some dignity

As sad as it is, didn't the Magpies do this to themselves?

Wests Tigers made a decision for its long term brand, but the Magpies rebuked any support and chose to field a team in the NSW Cup on their own.

Beleive all the fluff peices you like, but this is the outcome of their actions, their actions alone?!

Not as black and white (excuse the pun) as that…

2 nsw cup teams worked well for WT for a decade providing a pathway to success to WT nrl level. Brought WT a premiership in 2005

Come 2011, all wests (macarthur based) bred quality players are sent to balmain as the now default feeder side to WT (at the demise of wests player strength)

Come 2012, WT take over financial running of BRET (balmain are in financial trouble) and as a result have a better players and resources to run a nsw cup team.

So WSDRLFC despite all the setbacks and being shafted in its role in the JV are forced into bailing out a broke balmain fc to form a Single wt team at nsw cup level. Killing off the magpies brand and losing it to the dominate tigers brand once more. Magpies FC resisted and want to remain a football club unlike balmain fc where the tigers brand of WT and tigers brand of BRET is hard to distinguish and seperate

One brand ideology is a myth. Roosters are linked to jets, dragons to cutters, souths to norths, parra to wenty, penrith to windsor etc

Ashfield has been committed to supporting both WT and a magpies nsw cup team. Balmain fc cannot do the same...

Magpies have paid the price - but thank mr humphries and mr sheens and the ignorant backroom decision makers for that.
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@batboy said:
@happy tiger said:
@Tiger Watto said:
@happy tiger said:
I'm trying not to sound harsh , but what will this fix ??

Leo doesn't have the cattle to work with the same as Trevor didn't

I still maintain it is a disgrace what has happened For me this is still the darkest time in Wests Tigers history and they should not of let it get to this stage

To let the Wests Magpies end like this is disgusting and I hope the people who let it happen are proud of themselves

At least they could of let us die with some dignity

As sad as it is, didn't the Magpies do this to themselves?

Wests Tigers made a decision for its long term brand, but the Magpies rebuked any support and chose to field a team in the NSW Cup on their own.

Beleive all the fluff peices you like, but this is the outcome of their actions, their actions alone?!

I understand where you are coming from with this point of view Watto , but you have to admit it is a bad look for the Tigers , no matter what decisions either party has taken . And I would feel the same way whether it was Wests or Balmain . These clubs are having their last hurrahs in the sunset .
Having seen my Panthers in Brisbane die exactly the same way (They lost every game in their last season also ) this is painful to watch for a proud foundation club

I agree that the Wests Tigers is the way of the future , but we (as a joint venture) should of found a better end for both sides of the venture

MATE!! Post of the year…
Whilst I agree (From progression and the best interest of WT's) That a single state cup team (Called Wests Tigers) Is the way forward. I don't care what they wear, Or where they Play..
As long as our Branding is there... I also don't like the Idea of the Wt's letting the Magpies get Belted into the dirt!!
It's a real credit to the guys they have playing for them to turn up week after week knowing an onslaught awaits them!!
Surely through the 3 grades there is a couple spare players that wouldn't hurt from a run?
I think that they possibly should be going to the Magpies instead of Burwood.... (If that is the case?)

Only a handful of the 8-10 NYC boys sent to Burwood, are even up to bundy level, let alone consistent NSW cup level. Physically they're just not up to playing grown men. Burwood has not fielded any nsw cup players from WT so far this year…I believe 7 fringe NYC boys played in Burwood's A-Grade and they lost convincingly. They'd get murdered in prems.
 
So for the 2013, what will people's thoughts be when the other side of the joint venture don't sign off on a Wests Tigers State Cup team in preference to fielding team to carry there name & 100+ year history? Will they be also be ridiculed by the big hitters on this forum?

IMO nothing will change next year. Balmain will decide to field a team. Wests Ashfield will then decide to field a Wests Magpies team (on a limited budget) …. over to you Wests Tigers.... will you field your own team against them (since the NSWRL now recognise you as a district club) and let them die by starving both of second tier cap/ NRL players/ and resources ... or will you select Balmain RE again.

Like sand through the hour glass...
 
Wests Tigers or nothing for 2013.

They have enough fringe players, NYC graduates and top tier players not required every week for NRL to make the decision easy.
 
Speaking of Myths…
This "2 Feeder sides won us the Comp in 05" Garbage we hear time and time again
IS THE BIGGEST myth!!!
We used 26 players in 05, 17 of them won the comp.
Anyone who makes claims that:
Using 2 Props, 3 Centre/Wingers, 2 Fullback/Wingers, 1 Half and 1 Back Rower outside your starting team, Over the course of the season a) Had any bearing on us winning the premiership or b) cant be accomplished from 1 feeder team is absolutely outside thier mind.
One could argue that almost every other team that's won it since the dawn of time, Did it with one reserve grade team.... So we should only have one??
2 feeder teams is stupidity!!

_Ray Cashmere: 3 Games off the Bench
Dean Collis: 6 Games (4 off bench)
Matt Jobson: 4 Games (2off Bench)
Bronson Harrison: 19 Games (18 off bench)
Shannon McDonnell: 1 Game
Robert Miles: 3 Games (1 off bench)
Ben Reynolds: 1 Game off Bench
Matt Rieck: 6 Games
John Wilson: 10 Games (3 off bench)_

I'm certain if ALL our ressies from 05 came from the same side (Be it one or the other) We's have still got up...
So stop shovelling garbage!!

@wtfl1981 said:
@Tiger Watto said:
@happy tiger said:
I'm trying not to sound harsh , but what will this fix ??

Leo doesn't have the cattle to work with the same as Trevor didn't

I still maintain it is a disgrace what has happened For me this is still the darkest time in Wests Tigers history and they should not of let it get to this stage

To let the Wests Magpies end like this is disgusting and I hope the people who let it happen are proud of themselves

At least they could of let us die with some dignity

As sad as it is, didn't the Magpies do this to themselves?

Wests Tigers made a decision for its long term brand, but the Magpies rebuked any support and chose to field a team in the NSW Cup on their own.

Beleive all the fluff peices you like, but this is the outcome of their actions, their actions alone?!

Not as black and white (excuse the pun) as that…

2 nsw cup teams worked well for WT for a decade providing a pathway to success to WT nrl level. Brought WT a premiership in 2005

Come 2011, all wests (macarthur based) bred quality players are sent to balmain as the now default feeder side to WT (at the demise of wests player strength)

Come 2012, WT take over financial running of BRET (balmain are in financial trouble) and as a result have a better players and resources to run a nsw cup team.

So WSDRLFC despite all the setbacks and being shafted in its role in the JV are forced into bailing out a broke balmain fc to form a Single wt team at nsw cup level. Killing off the magpies brand and losing it to the dominate tigers brand once more. Magpies FC resisted and want to remain a football club unlike balmain fc where the tigers brand of WT and tigers brand of BRET is hard to distinguish and seperate

One brand ideology is a myth. Roosters are linked to jets, dragons to cutters, souths to norths, parra to wenty, penrith to windsor etc

Ashfield has been committed to supporting both WT and a magpies nsw cup team. Balmain fc cannot do the same...

Magpies have paid the price - but thank mr Humphreys and mr sheens and the ignorant backroom decision makers for that.
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