MAGPIES PRESS RELEASE: RE: NSW Cup 2013

[Guest]

Believe what you want mate. Since 2006 we have been told Balmain agrees to having a single NSW Cup side called the Wests Tigers.

Now when push came to shove it ends up they want it, but only if its based at Concord. Surprise surprise.

Well FG and the NYC train at Concord, so if Balmain and Wests were to merge at State Cup level and be called Wests Tigers, then it also stands to reason they should train at Concord. Logistically it makes sense, and there is absolutely no surprise in that at all.

 

[Snake]

It wont be a repeat of this year because unlike this year, we can start recruiting players now, not a month out before the comp starts. And if the Wests Group grows a set, they will demand all Magpie juniors come back to the Magpies. And whilst we're at it, we'll have Leo Epifania back too thanks!

Magpies for the Semi Finals in 2013!!!

If I was a Magpie junior I know where I would want to be playing for a future .
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[Tiger_Watto]

Magpies can demand what ever they like, but it appears no one is listening… From my understanding, the players playing for the current WT's Reserve Grade under the disguise of BRET are Wests Tigers contracted player?!

 

[wtfl1981]

What joy could anyone possibly get out of seeing the Pies stand alone if next yr will be a repeat of this yr

Nobody wants to see a repeat of 2012… But the Wests Group is united and have the financial force of the JV. There is a vocal and passionate membership and fan base who wants to see the Western Suburbs Magpies identity continue just like Newtown and North Sydney do. If it wasn't for the 'all fringe WT players must play for BRET' then Wests Magpies NSW cup team would be more competitive and significant to those who care.

A potential WT NSW cup team would rely on Ashfield's money to operate and does not necessarily save WT much $$. Its up to the respective boards to determine the fate of both Balmain & Wests. Balmain's financial status may have a influence in that decision.
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[Guest]

It wont be a repeat of this year because unlike this year, we can start recruiting players now, not a month out before the comp starts. And if the Wests Group grows a set, they will demand all Magpie juniors come back to the Magpies. And whilst we're at it, we'll have Leo Epifania back too thanks!

Magpies for the Semi Finals in 2013!!!

Yeah, good luck with that.

 

[galahs]

I just think its funny that Balmain have no intention to ever let the Wests Tigers move to Campbelltown.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I just think its funny that Balmain have no intention to ever let the Wests Tigers move to Campbelltown.

Does the Magpies have any intention of letting the Wests Tigers ever move to Leichhardt Oval fulltime???

Keep sooking!

 

[wtfl1981]

I think he is referring to WT being based (headquarters) in Campbelltown area full time rather than the inner west. Don't think he is implying that WT must play all games at Campbelltown. That has never been the plan for WT. As long as WT remains in inner west than it will never embrace the macarthur region (that wests had to move to 25 years ago). WT being based in campbelltown has Nothing to do with magpies branding or WT branding - its about the future. Something better than 4 NRL games a year is hoped for.
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[galahs]

Exactly. I want 6 / 6 split between Campbelltown and Leichhardt.

But I also believe the Wests Tigers HQ and training facilities have to be based at Campbelltown.

 

[Sabre]

I think he is referring to WT being based (headquarters) in Campbelltown area full time rather than the inner west. Don't think he is implying that WT must play all games at Campbelltown. That has never been the plan for WT. As long as WT remains in inner west than it will never embrace the macarthur region (that wests had to move to 25 years ago). WT being based in campbelltown has Nothing to do with magpies branding or WT branding - its about the future. Something better than 4 NRL games a year is hoped for.
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Even if he did just mean the HQ.
I bet Wests wouldn't agree to moving HQ to Leichhardt, so how can any body be upside by not moving to Campbelltown.

 

[system]

Ahh so if I am reading this correctly one of the Magpies conditions was sourced around the entire WT operation pulling up stumps and shifting to the Macarthur.

I seriously hope that the organisation is not that delusional.

As previously stated I can see a great benefit in NYC operations shifting to the Macarthur region but to suggest the entire operation move is a bit far fetched and to expect the State Cup side to be based out of anywhere but where the NRL team is just appears counter productive.

50/50 split of games seems a realistic goal to achieve though

 

[wtfl1981]

That Was not part of the 'conditions'. Just a desire from some of the fan base.
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[galahs]

Ahh so if I am reading this correctly one of the Magpies conditions was sourced around the entire WT operation pulling up stumps and shifting to the Macarthur.

I seriously hope that the organisation is not that delusional.

I don't believe the Wests Group are suggesting it happens this year or the next, they would like to know when.

 

[system]

Ahh so the conditions are, as yet, unknown?

Anyway. Going back to my initial reaction it seems the board are just doing there duty at this stage and placating the fan base with the knowledge that should no agreement be reached they have already begun strategic planning for next season.

Here is hoping we see a Wests Tigers side in the reserves next season

 

[system]

I don't believe the Wests Group are suggesting it happens this year or the next, they would like to know when.

I would suggest you would be looking at another 10 years or so before a decision like that is made from where I sit.

When balancing the different demographic spread with people moving back into higher density centrally located developments with a larger disposeable income and the continued shift of growing families to the west (interestingly the north west corridor seems the preffered growth corridor in terms of density and relatable infrastructure) the Wests Tigers organisation are going to continue to find themselves straddling the divide over junior support growth and engagement and engaging with a clientele with more free cash to spend on entertainment.

One thing I think everyone agrees on is that a greater community involvement within the Macarthur area is required starting full bore in 2013, hopefully a little fixed scheduling can hone and focus that process.

If this is done successfully (sp?) I think the club are able to serve the two masters with their current location remaining.

Just my thoughts

 

[Benjirific]

What joy could anyone possibly get out of seeing the Pies stand alone if next yr will be a repeat of this yr

Nobody wants to see a repeat of 2012… But the Wests Group is united and have the financial force of the JV. There is a vocal and passionate membership and fan base who wants to see the Western Suburbs Magpies identity continue just like Newtown and North Sydney do. If it wasn't for the 'all fringe WT players must play for BRET' then Wests Magpies NSW cup team would be more competitive and significant to those who care.

A potential WT NSW cup team would rely on Ashfield's money to operate and does not necessarily save WT much $$. Its up to the respective boards to determine the fate of both Balmain & Wests. Balmain's financial status may have a influence in that decision.
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I think the funding issue is a big one. The Wests Magpies obviously don't want Ryde-Eastwood involved, but dumping them and running a joint venture through WT would be at a cost to both sides, rather than letting Ryde-Eastwood take over (which is done by many other NRL clubs), and baring no cost to either organisation and having a joint-venture team with no political issues from either side.

 

[Yossarian]

And if the Wests Group grows a set, they will demand all Magpie juniors come back to the Magpies.

What even the ones who are playing for other NRL clubs? Has someone got Ryan Hoffman's number?

 

[Spartan117]

I wonder if they would want to come back.

 

[Guest]

I wonder if they would want to come back.

Given the way things are run now, I doubt it.

 

[wtfl1981]

What joy could anyone possibly get out of seeing the Pies stand alone if next yr will be a repeat of this yr

Nobody wants to see a repeat of 2012… But the Wests Group is united and have the financial force of the JV. There is a vocal and passionate membership and fan base who wants to see the Western Suburbs Magpies identity continue just like Newtown and North Sydney do. If it wasn't for the 'all fringe WT players must play for BRET' then Wests Magpies NSW cup team would be more competitive and significant to those who care.

A potential WT NSW cup team would rely on Ashfield's money to operate and does not necessarily save WT much $$. Its up to the respective boards to determine the fate of both Balmain & Wests. Balmain's financial status may have a influence in that decision.
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I think the funding issue is a big one. The Wests Magpies obviously don't want Ryde-Eastwood involved, but dumping them and running a joint venture through WT would be at a cost to both sides, rather than letting Ryde-Eastwood take over (which is done by many other NRL clubs), and baring no cost to either organisation and having a joint-venture team with no political issues from either side.

Ryde-Eastwood are not part of the JV and the debate is not about 'not wanting them' its about their constitutional role in the JV. Ryde-Eastwood is propping up a Balmain branded NSW cup side for what advantage to them?

I doubt Ryde-Eastwood would be funding a WT branded NSW cup team.

Other NRL clubs have geographically separate NSW cup feeder teams (canberra - mounties and storm-cronulla) so a single feeder side can be really anywhere and of any brand.
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