Maguire Signs Until End of 2023

@GNR4LIFE said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122755) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122747) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

No coach is ever going to say he’s unhappy with his squad, but I guarantee he would’ve preferred to come to the club with an open salary cap instead of having to deal with Ivan’s mess. He’s slowly turning it into the team he wants.


Only one coach in history has walked into a job with an entire salary cap to play with and that was Ivan when he signed with us. Having to work with what the last coach left for you is standard stuff.

Never said otherwise. My point is with Madge doing pretty good so far giving him another year at the club so he can actually use all the salary cap and properly build the squad he wants is probably a good idea. Hes started building his team but it can take a good while to do it completely.
 
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

What I said was a load of bull ....Madge has been around long enough now to know if he doesn't get results on field he won't get his contract renewed ...and I don't think he would expect it either
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122755) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122747) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

No coach is ever going to say he’s unhappy with his squad, but I guarantee he would’ve preferred to come to the club with an open salary cap instead of having to deal with Ivan’s mess. He’s slowly turning it into the team he wants.


Only one coach in history has walked into a job with an entire salary cap to play with and that was Ivan when he signed with us. Having to work with what the last coach left for you is standard stuff.

That's true, but not many walk into a roster as bad as our was.

You can't compare Madge walking into what was left for him, to say the other 3 coaches who took over last year, Seibold who walked into what was left for him in Fifita, Haas, Bird, Isaako, Pangai etc, or John Morris walking into a roster with Gallen, Johnson, Uele, Fifita, Xerri, Dugan etc.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122747) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

No coach is ever going to say he’s unhappy with his squad, but I guarantee he would’ve preferred to come to the club with an open salary cap instead of having to deal with Ivan’s mess. He’s slowly turning it into the team he wants.

Agreed. If he was so happy with the roster he has he wouldn't of been shopping Reynolds, ET, Packer, Matulino, McQueen, Momorovski, while being so reluctant to keep guys like Lawrence. He is just a professional and will never put down his players.
 
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

Do you really think our coach is going to bag the players he doesn't want in the team to us
I don't think so
And just because he brings out the best in our current crop doesn't mean that they are better than the other teams current crop
Each player has ceiling they can reach
Our players maximum ceiling may not be those of others
It's like trying to get the best out of a Ford v8 and trying to beat the best Ferrari
Your just not going to win
Madge needs to be able to buy the players he thinks can do the job
Then, and only then can we really judge him for his efforts
 
JT could have had the roosters or broncos salary sombrero at his disposal and imo still couldn't win a comp. Just don’t think he could get a team to gel.

Madge should be signed until 2022 with an additional year option in our favour or something like that. He is a good coach and we need some consistency and to crack a finals appearance and unless an absolute gem like say a Bellamy is available, who do we sign to replace him. I was one of the suckers who thought IC was going to be that guy but looks like Madge is our man - or at least I think he is.
 
Madge is the first real coach we've had since Sheens.



* Premiership winner

* Knows how to build a footy club

* Knows how to deal with players

* Has standards as high as Everest

* No excuses

If we're fair dinkum about playing finals footy again, signing him up would be a great start.
 
@Papacito said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122801) said:
Madge is the first real coach we've had since Sheens.



* Premiership winner

* Knows how to build a footy club

* Knows how to deal with players

* Has standards as high as Everest

* No excuses

If we're fair dinkum about playing finals footy again, signing him up would be a great start.

He is signed up
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122793) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

Do you really think our coach is going to bag the players he doesn't want in the team to us
I don't think so
And just because he brings out the best in our current crop doesn't mean that they are better than the other teams current crop
Each player has ceiling they can reach
Our players maximum ceiling may not be those of others
It's like trying to get the best out of a Ford v8 and trying to beat the best Ferrari
Your just not going to win
Madge needs to be able to buy the players he thinks can do the job
Then, and only then can we really judge him for his efforts

Well since Maguire has been in charge he has re-signed/extended Thompson, Twal, Chee-Kam, Lawrence, Aloiai, Marshall, Liddle, Brooks, Garner, Mikaele, Talau promoted Seyfarth to Top 30 and signed Jennings Leilua x2 Doueihi, Musgrove, Walters and made Mbye the captain..so he must think those guys can do the job..
 
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122855) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122793) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

Do you really think our coach is going to bag the players he doesn't want in the team to us
I don't think so
And just because he brings out the best in our current crop doesn't mean that they are better than the other teams current crop
Each player has ceiling they can reach
Our players maximum ceiling may not be those of others
It's like trying to get the best out of a Ford v8 and trying to beat the best Ferrari
Your just not going to win
Madge needs to be able to buy the players he thinks can do the job
Then, and only then can we really judge him for his efforts

Well since Maguire has been in charge he has re-signed/extended Thompson, Twal, Chee-Kam, Lawrence, Aloiai, Marshall, Liddle, Brooks, Garner, Mikaele, Talau promoted Seyfarth to Top 30 and signed Jennings Leilua x2 Doueihi, Musgrove, Walters and made Mbye the captain..so he must think those guys can do the job..

17 out of a possible 30 plus Mbye
That leaves 13 players that he did not sign
Once he re signs these players he must take responsibility
He obviously tried to get Latrell but that didn't happen
And others no doubt
Lawrence is a strange one
I think he was more a public pressure signing but he is still a good back up and a club man
He is also cheaper as he is long serving
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122863) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122855) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122793) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

Do you really think our coach is going to bag the players he doesn't want in the team to us
I don't think so
And just because he brings out the best in our current crop doesn't mean that they are better than the other teams current crop
Each player has ceiling they can reach
Our players maximum ceiling may not be those of others
It's like trying to get the best out of a Ford v8 and trying to beat the best Ferrari
Your just not going to win
Madge needs to be able to buy the players he thinks can do the job
Then, and only then can we really judge him for his efforts

Well since Maguire has been in charge he has re-signed/extended Thompson, Twal, Chee-Kam, Lawrence, Aloiai, Marshall, Liddle, Brooks, Garner, Mikaele, Talau and signed Jennings Leilua x2 Doueihi, Musgrove, Walters and made Mbye the captain..so he must think those guys can do the job..

17 out of a possible 30 plus Mbye
That leaves 13 players that he did not sign
Once he re signs these players he must take responsibility
He obviously tried to get Latrell but that didn't happen
And others no doubt
Lawrence is a strange one
I think he was more a public pressure signing but he is still a good back up and a club man
He is also cheaper as he is long serving

Love Lawrence but the way he went to the media about his contract the week before our biggest game in years was terrible. Was really disappointed to see him doing that. Don’t think he’ll see much first grade this year.
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122863) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122855) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122793) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

Do you really think our coach is going to bag the players he doesn't want in the team to us
I don't think so
And just because he brings out the best in our current crop doesn't mean that they are better than the other teams current crop
Each player has ceiling they can reach
Our players maximum ceiling may not be those of others
It's like trying to get the best out of a Ford v8 and trying to beat the best Ferrari
Your just not going to win
Madge needs to be able to buy the players he thinks can do the job
Then, and only then can we really judge him for his efforts

Well since Maguire has been in charge he has re-signed/extended Thompson, Twal, Chee-Kam, Lawrence, Aloiai, Marshall, Liddle, Brooks, Garner, Mikaele, Talau promoted Seyfarth to Top 30 and signed Jennings Leilua x2 Doueihi, Musgrove, Walters and made Mbye the captain..so he must think those guys can do the job..

17 out of a possible 30 plus Mbye
That leaves 13 players that he did not sign
Once he re signs these players he must take responsibility
He obviously tried to get Latrell but that didn't happen
And others no doubt
Lawrence is a strange one
I think he was more a public pressure signing but he is still a good back up and a club man
He is also cheaper as he is long serving


The re-signing of Lawrence was a practical example of how our club legends are now treated. Lawrence exemplifies everything about a culture we should have.
Many on here want the winning culture but will drop it to chase the fools gold of trying to win next weeks game, in a heart beat.
If you want to retain our good juniors then we need to remember that club loyalty is a two way street, it’s not a dead end.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122867) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122863) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122855) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122793) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

Do you really think our coach is going to bag the players he doesn't want in the team to us
I don't think so
And just because he brings out the best in our current crop doesn't mean that they are better than the other teams current crop
Each player has ceiling they can reach
Our players maximum ceiling may not be those of others
It's like trying to get the best out of a Ford v8 and trying to beat the best Ferrari
Your just not going to win
Madge needs to be able to buy the players he thinks can do the job
Then, and only then can we really judge him for his efforts

Well since Maguire has been in charge he has re-signed/extended Thompson, Twal, Chee-Kam, Lawrence, Aloiai, Marshall, Liddle, Brooks, Garner, Mikaele, Talau and signed Jennings Leilua x2 Doueihi, Musgrove, Walters and made Mbye the captain..so he must think those guys can do the job..

17 out of a possible 30 plus Mbye
That leaves 13 players that he did not sign
Once he re signs these players he must take responsibility
He obviously tried to get Latrell but that didn't happen
And others no doubt
Lawrence is a strange one
I think he was more a public pressure signing but he is still a good back up and a club man
He is also cheaper as he is long serving

Love Lawrence but the way he went to the media about his contract the week before our biggest game in years was terrible. Was really disappointed to see him doing that. Don’t think he’ll see much first grade this year.

It was a case of have to, they left him no option.

If he hadn't - he would have been home cutting the grass.

One and ONLY time, he did not think of the club first.

I'm not going to hang him for that.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122867) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122863) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122855) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122793) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

Do you really think our coach is going to bag the players he doesn't want in the team to us
I don't think so
And just because he brings out the best in our current crop doesn't mean that they are better than the other teams current crop
Each player has ceiling they can reach
Our players maximum ceiling may not be those of others
It's like trying to get the best out of a Ford v8 and trying to beat the best Ferrari
Your just not going to win
Madge needs to be able to buy the players he thinks can do the job
Then, and only then can we really judge him for his efforts

Well since Maguire has been in charge he has re-signed/extended Thompson, Twal, Chee-Kam, Lawrence, Aloiai, Marshall, Liddle, Brooks, Garner, Mikaele, Talau and signed Jennings Leilua x2 Doueihi, Musgrove, Walters and made Mbye the captain..so he must think those guys can do the job..

17 out of a possible 30 plus Mbye
That leaves 13 players that he did not sign
Once he re signs these players he must take responsibility
He obviously tried to get Latrell but that didn't happen
And others no doubt
Lawrence is a strange one
I think he was more a public pressure signing but he is still a good back up and a club man
He is also cheaper as he is long serving

Love Lawrence but the way he went to the media about his contract the week before our biggest game in years was terrible. Was really disappointed to see him doing that. Don’t think he’ll see much first grade this year.

I haven’t been able to look at him the same since. Lost quite a bit of respect for him if i’m being totally honest.
 
@Russell said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1123000) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122867) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122863) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122855) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122793) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

Do you really think our coach is going to bag the players he doesn't want in the team to us
I don't think so
And just because he brings out the best in our current crop doesn't mean that they are better than the other teams current crop
Each player has ceiling they can reach
Our players maximum ceiling may not be those of others
It's like trying to get the best out of a Ford v8 and trying to beat the best Ferrari
Your just not going to win
Madge needs to be able to buy the players he thinks can do the job
Then, and only then can we really judge him for his efforts

Well since Maguire has been in charge he has re-signed/extended Thompson, Twal, Chee-Kam, Lawrence, Aloiai, Marshall, Liddle, Brooks, Garner, Mikaele, Talau and signed Jennings Leilua x2 Doueihi, Musgrove, Walters and made Mbye the captain..so he must think those guys can do the job..

17 out of a possible 30 plus Mbye
That leaves 13 players that he did not sign
Once he re signs these players he must take responsibility
He obviously tried to get Latrell but that didn't happen
And others no doubt
Lawrence is a strange one
I think he was more a public pressure signing but he is still a good back up and a club man
He is also cheaper as he is long serving

Love Lawrence but the way he went to the media about his contract the week before our biggest game in years was terrible. Was really disappointed to see him doing that. Don’t think he’ll see much first grade this year.

It was a case of have to, they left him no option.

If he hadn't - he would have been home cutting the grass.

One and ONLY time, he did not think of the club first.

I'm not going to hang him for that.

He put himself ahead of the club in the lead up to our most important game in years. Tarnished his reputation for good.
 
@Russell said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1123000) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122867) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122863) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122855) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122793) said:
@Geo said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1122739) said:
That is also a load of bull...An elite Coach gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal...Not once has Maguire said he is not happy with the squad of players he has..in fact quite the opposite..every time..

Do you really think our coach is going to bag the players he doesn't want in the team to us
I don't think so
And just because he brings out the best in our current crop doesn't mean that they are better than the other teams current crop
Each player has ceiling they can reach
Our players maximum ceiling may not be those of others
It's like trying to get the best out of a Ford v8 and trying to beat the best Ferrari
Your just not going to win
Madge needs to be able to buy the players he thinks can do the job
Then, and only then can we really judge him for his efforts

Well since Maguire has been in charge he has re-signed/extended Thompson, Twal, Chee-Kam, Lawrence, Aloiai, Marshall, Liddle, Brooks, Garner, Mikaele, Talau and signed Jennings Leilua x2 Doueihi, Musgrove, Walters and made Mbye the captain..so he must think those guys can do the job..

17 out of a possible 30 plus Mbye
That leaves 13 players that he did not sign
Once he re signs these players he must take responsibility
He obviously tried to get Latrell but that didn't happen
And others no doubt
Lawrence is a strange one
I think he was more a public pressure signing but he is still a good back up and a club man
He is also cheaper as he is long serving

Love Lawrence but the way he went to the media about his contract the week before our biggest game in years was terrible. Was really disappointed to see him doing that. Don’t think he’ll see much first grade this year.

It was a case of have to, they left him no option.

If he hadn't - he would have been home cutting the grass.

One and ONLY time, he did not think of the club first.

I'm not going to hang him for that.

Could’ve waited gee I don’t know a week or two? Poor timing on his part. Would’ve been lucky to get a contract at any other club.
 
100% agree. Extend to 2024 and keep him locked in.

Yet.

Maguire needs to be critiqued and developed. Too often we appoint the coach, and the board then takes the hands off the wheel. This isn't our culture now and that's why we are stronger yet everyone else has improved too. Heck that is exactly what we have done, upgrading everyone in key roles.

I am behind Madge, lets just be aware of his weaknesses and help build around them. Particularly player management and knowing when to rest people and when to push them harder.
 
We must be getting close to extending Madge...

He deserves a few seasons with the entire salary cap at his disposal.

I'm excited to see what he can do. Sadly we have to wait until 2023 though
 

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