Mark O’Neill resigns (fired)

[cat-party]

You guys are bloody idiots. If you get done for sexual harassment in a modern workplace you are gone, no matter who you are. End of story.

 

[Swordy]

I just knew JT would get blamed for this eventually. Took until page 4, but it got there.

He is also under investigation for the Wanda Beach murders, disapearance of MH370 and being near the grassy knoll.

Seriously.

 

[Tigerdave]

I just knew JT would get blamed for this eventually. Took until page 4, but it got there.

He is also under investigation for the Wanda Beach murders, disapearance of MH370 and being near the grassy knoll.

Seriously.

You should see the facebook page, only took minutes for the tinfoil hat brigade

 

[Tim Sheens]

More confident that Mark deserved the boot than of man walking on the moon back then.

 

[weststigers]

The unfortunate event occurred at a sanctioned Wests Tigers event for administrive staff so someone has to ask, what happened to the RSA, for Mark to have done what was allegded then the person that kept plying him with booze should be held accountable.

This is what's wrong with society today…we need to be accountable for ourselves. It's not someone else's job.

 

[Telltails]

Not surprised at all that JT is getting blamed.
Boards make the decision about hiring and firing coaches too - but that hasn't stopped people believing otherwise.

 

[innsaneink]

Hahaha some of you blokes should be writing scripts for TV miniseries
When you guess, it rarely is as it seems… Put them away

 

[rialto]

You guys are bloody idiots. If you get done for sexual harassment in a modern workplace you are gone, no matter who you are. End of story.

Absolutely, the Board would have made a collective decision after investigating incident and seeking legal advice - end of story!

 

[TCL]

Gee I didnt know our forum had so many people with legal knowledge!

We don't even know the facts or events that took place. If it was isolated or a series of instances. Just because a board makes a collective decision it doesn't mean it is right or wrong it could just be a decision that sees everyone walk away with the least amount of egg on their faces, given that the matter if protracted will be played out in the media.

It is also the clubs duty to provide a safe working environment for employees. Safe doesn't just refer to physical it also refers to mental.

 

[rialto]

Gee I didnt know our forum had so many people with legal knowledge!
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We don't even know the facts or events that took place. If it was isolated or a series of instances. Just because a board makes a collective decision it doesn't mean it is right or wrong it could just be a decision that sees everyone walk away with the least amount of egg on their faces, given that the matter if protracted will be played out in the media.

It is also the clubs duty to provide a safe working environment for employees. Safe doesn't just refer to physical it also refers to mental.

You don't have to have legal knowledge to know that this was a serious enough situation that they had to 'cover their collective backs' and seeking legal advice would be the sensible thing to do, especially in light of the media scrutiny which will no doubt ensue. All parties involved probably were advised to also seek legal counsel. Whether it was physical, mental or both, it was serious enough for Mark to have to resign. And yes, I totally agree it is the clubs duty to provide a safe working environment for employees against physical and mental harassment.

 

[TrueTiger]

Well it seems the desicion is made,one way or the other Mark has to live with what he has done…a real shame that he has done something that he regrets no doubt he has tainted his image as he seemed like a really good bloke on the couple of times I have met him...

 

[TCL]

Gee I didnt know our forum had so many people with legal knowledge!
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We don't even know the facts or events that took place. If it was isolated or a series of instances. Just because a board makes a collective decision it doesn't mean it is right or wrong it could just be a decision that sees everyone walk away with the least amount of egg on their faces, given that the matter if protracted will be played out in the media.

It is also the clubs duty to provide a safe working environment for employees. Safe doesn't just refer to physical it also refers to mental.

You don't have to have legal knowledge to know that this was a serious enough situation that they had to 'cover their collective backs' and seeking legal advice would be the sensible thing to do, especially in light of the media scrutiny which will no doubt ensue. All parties involved probably were advised to also seek legal counsel. Whether it was physical, mental or both, it was serious enough for Mark to have to resign. And yes, I totally agree it is the clubs duty to provide a safe working environment for employees against physical and mental harassment.

For sure, it's butt covering.
My understanding from what I've heard on the rumour mill (it is just rumour) is that is was serious and stupid.
If it went to court it's anyone's guess how a judge or arbitrator may rule given some decisions I've seen.
Ultimately it's buckets responsibility to act appropriately but the club would have copped a hit as well.
This doesn't mean that the alleged victim or victims can't persue the matter unless they received a settlement as well?

 

[cqtiger]

Just another moment of weakness that has a high personal cost.
Just ask Sam Allardyce.

 

[Benjirific]

Don't agree mate as have seen this happen many times especially when there is a female CEO or Chairperson. While you were on "leave " there were comments about RF making sexist comments and being in trouble with Go so I reckon if buckets did something wrong involving a female staff member he would get the bullet. Is it right ? In a male dominated environment probably would have been swept under the carpet but things have changed a lot now so I reckon he has made a mistake and as Willow said will pay for it for the rest of his life.

The worst thing with this story is it was dealt with internally by Pascoe, he was given as harsh a punishment without being punted as you will get, and Go agreed & signed off on it. When JT got word of it all, he complained to another board member who has brought it all up again and demanded O'Neill get the punt. Doesn't take much to guess which side of the board that person was from….

Which must suggest that it is far worse than what is being reported and had been multiple situations

O'Neill could take the club for everything including the kitchen sink otherwise …..

What happened has already been mentioned in this thread, that is 100% on the mark. Was one compromising situation.

 

[Benjirific]

Don't agree mate as have seen this happen many times especially when there is a female CEO or Chairperson. While you were on "leave " there were comments about RF making sexist comments and being in trouble with Go so I reckon if buckets did something wrong involving a female staff member he would get the bullet. Is it right ? In a male dominated environment probably would have been swept under the carpet but things have changed a lot now so I reckon he has made a mistake and as Willow said will pay for it for the rest of his life.

The worst thing with this story is it was dealt with internally by Pascoe, he was given as harsh a punishment without being punted as you will get, and Go agreed & signed off on it. When JT got word of it all, he complained to another board member who has brought it all up again and demanded O'Neill get the punt. Doesn't take much to guess which side of the board that person was from….

If this is true, that Pascoe dealt with it then JT wanted more done , than gee our coach has a long memory and likes to hold grudges.

If what you are saying is true (and I have serious doubts), it would have gone to a board meeting at which the majority voted for him to be allowed to resign. This isn't a Wests/Balmain thing, it is a simple matter of misbehaviour by a senior manager. JT had him sacked via some back door route? Nobody ever went to the moon? Give me a break. All this happened after an independent investigation.

If you want to believe the spin that WT have put out publicly, go for it. There was an internal investigation, from which Pascoe determined punishments agreed to by Go, and for that matter agreed to by the NRL Integrity Commission. It was to end here until JT stuck his nose in with some other board members.

If the punishment which the CEO determined & the chair agreed was the correct outcome, and the NRL Integrity Commission agreed was the correct outcome, any smart board accepts those recommendations.

 

[Geo]

The worst thing with this story is it was dealt with internally by Pascoe, he was given as harsh a punishment without being punted as you will get, and Go agreed & signed off on it. When JT got word of it all, he complained to another board member who has brought it all up again and demanded O'Neill get the punt. Doesn't take much to guess which side of the board that person was from….

If this is true, that Pascoe dealt with it then JT wanted more done , than gee our coach has a long memory and likes to hold grudges.

If what you are saying is true (and I have serious doubts), it would have gone to a board meeting at which the majority voted for him to be allowed to resign. This isn't a Wests/Balmain thing, it is a simple matter of misbehaviour by a senior manager. JT had him sacked via some back door route? Nobody ever went to the moon? Give me a break. All this happened after an independent investigation.

If you want to believe the spin that WT have put out publicly, go for it. There was an internal investigation, from which Pascoe determined punishments agreed to by Go, and for that matter agreed to by the NRL Integrity Commission. It was to end here until JT stuck his nose in with some other board members.

If the punishment which the CEO determined & the chair agreed was the correct outcome, and the NRL Integrity Commission agreed was the correct outcome, any smart board accepts those recommendations.

Now I'm curious….What was the internal punishment agreed upon before the resignation...?

 

[stevetiger]

Let me just get this right. JT is sticking his nose into affairs that he shouldn't be. Tedesco, Brooks and Moses also suck their noses into the Robbie affair.

It all sounds like a combined powerplay by the coach and certain players.

Days of our life yet again.

Personally I don't believe any of it and just want to see us win the comp next year.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Just says he resigned, maybe he got another job that is a better opportunity and wage.

 

[innsaneink]

Well…. It doesn't **just** say he resigned.
There is a whole bunch of other stuff there.
Do you think they just wanted to pad the article out with irrelevant stuff?
2 & 2 always =4

 

[happy_tiger]

Don't agree mate as have seen this happen many times especially when there is a female CEO or Chairperson. While you were on "leave " there were comments about RF making sexist comments and being in trouble with Go so I reckon if buckets did something wrong involving a female staff member he would get the bullet. Is it right ? In a male dominated environment probably would have been swept under the carpet but things have changed a lot now so I reckon he has made a mistake and as Willow said will pay for it for the rest of his life.

The worst thing with this story is it was dealt with internally by Pascoe, he was given as harsh a punishment without being punted as you will get, and Go agreed & signed off on it. When JT got word of it all, he complained to another board member who has brought it all up again and demanded O'Neill get the punt. Doesn't take much to guess which side of the board that person was from….

Which must suggest that it is far worse than what is being reported and had been multiple situations

O'Neill could take the club for everything including the kitchen sink otherwise …..

What happened has already been mentioned in this thread, that is 100% on the mark. Was one compromising situation.

Well if what was said is true O'Neill may have a case

Staff can't be terminated or even threatened with termination after a single offence

I've had to deal with up to maybe 8-9 situations now , some far worse than this and you can't just fire someone

Simple as that , the world's a different place in 2016 , people need to be counselled , everyone gets a 2nd chance :deadhorse:

Its probably more likely he was demoted big time or moved to another area /position because of his indiscretions and he quit because of that