Mark ONeill - new role at the Wests Tigers ..

[gallagher]

Looks like someone didn't sign Happy's flag that day either..

O'Neill is well respected in the Rugby League community..has served on the NRL match review committee since 2008 and turn down the head role to join us…

He has been employed in the position to manage the football department lets give the bloke a chance...before the naysayers drag him down...

I'm sure Buckets is well respected in the Rugby League community

I still doubt he was the best applicant , can just imagine the interview process

Brought in his DVD of the 2005 GF no doubt , a few hugs and cuddles later , hey presto

For someone 'Over" 2005..you sure do mention it a lot…

Look it works for everyone else , might land me a job

Just because your a great clubman , doesn't necessarily mean you will be a good administrator

And when you still have ties to certain people whether it players or administration, it just complicates everything and muddies the waters

So if an issue came up with Dene Halatau or Robbie or MacDonnell or any others pre 2005 links , can we trust that he can use perspective in making any decisions or will his "brotherhood" still rule his decisions ??

Two players probably in their last year at the club. It's no issue. Plus what are the chances of Farah causing problems?

 

[happy_tiger]

I'm sure Buckets is well respected in the Rugby League community

I still doubt he was the best applicant , can just imagine the interview process

Brought in his DVD of the 2005 GF no doubt , a few hugs and cuddles later , hey presto

For someone 'Over" 2005..you sure do mention it a lot…

Look it works for everyone else , might land me a job

Just because your a great clubman , doesn't necessarily mean you will be a good administrator

And when you still have ties to certain people whether it players or administration, it just complicates everything and muddies the waters

So if an issue came up with Dene Halatau or Robbie or MacDonnell or any others pre 2005 links , can we trust that he can use perspective in making any decisions or will his "brotherhood" still rule his decisions ??

Two players probably in their last year at the club. It's no issue. Plus what are the chances of Farah causing problems?

I think you should ask what are the chances the Farah won't cause problem's . he still has supporters in high places

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Not a fan of giving it to Payten or even considering him.

Coaching players you played with - not a big fan.

Let him do a proper trade first.

Here's a good question - how many coaches have been successful coaching their former team-mates? Browny struggled a bit, Toovey ultimately got the flick from Manly though I don't think he coached many or any players from his playing days. David Furner?

As far as I can see he won't be Coaching anyone , that's not the job

 

[jirskyr]

Not a fan of giving it to Payten or even considering him.

Coaching players you played with - not a big fan.

Let him do a proper trade first.

Here's a good question - how many coaches have been successful coaching their former team-mates? Browny struggled a bit, Toovey ultimately got the flick from Manly though I don't think he coached many or any players from his playing days. David Furner?

As far as I can see he won't be Coaching anyone , that's not the job

It was in reference to Todd Payten.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

O'Neill is a champion of a bloke and would be a great addition to our club in this role, but I think you're giving him a bit too much credit on this one. Sheens made the change when Buckets got hurt mid-way through the year & stayed with Prince when he returned, something O'Neill has never forgiven him for.

In regard to Payten, he is highly respected amongst the playing group, has had a decent apprenticeship in NYC (1 Premiership & 1 PF in 2 seasons) and had knows a lot of the youngsters in this group inside out. I know a lot of people are going on about a 'boys club' culture, but there is a lot to be said about having one of your own in charge. That is what good club cultures are built on, keeping strong leaders like O'Neill & Payten involved with the club.

Great post. O'Neill and Payten both command respect.

Payten is a white ant and has No respect as a man never want him near this club EVER!

What do you base that on Snake? Actual knowledge or just the rumours that were around the club two years ago? I never put much stock in those rumours.

What??? Aren't all rumours here the Gospel truth????
Well bugger me, that's quite a shock to me. :astonished:

 

[stevetiger]

For someone 'Over" 2005..you sure do mention it a lot…

Look it works for everyone else , might land me a job

Just because your a great clubman , doesn't necessarily mean you will be a good administrator

And when you still have ties to certain people whether it players or administration, it just complicates everything and muddies the waters

So if an issue came up with Dene Halatau or Robbie or MacDonnell or any others pre 2005 links , can we trust that he can use perspective in making any decisions or will his "brotherhood" still rule his decisions ??

Two players probably in their last year at the club. It's no issue. Plus what are the chances of Farah causing problems?

I think you should ask what are the chances the Farah won't cause problem's . he still has supporters in high places

Geez - what a surprise. Farah is bad and Taylor is good.

 

[happy_tiger]

Look it works for everyone else , might land me a job

Just because your a great clubman , doesn't necessarily mean you will be a good administrator

And when you still have ties to certain people whether it players or administration, it just complicates everything and muddies the waters

So if an issue came up with Dene Halatau or Robbie or MacDonnell or any others pre 2005 links , can we trust that he can use perspective in making any decisions or will his "brotherhood" still rule his decisions ??

Two players probably in their last year at the club. It's no issue. Plus what are the chances of Farah causing problems?

I think you should ask what are the chances the Farah won't cause problem's . he still has supporters in high places

Geez - what a surprise. Farah is bad and Taylor is good.

Geez - what a surprise Steve takes a contrary position from mine zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Not a fan of giving it to Payten or even considering him.

Coaching players you played with - not a big fan.

Let him do a proper trade first.

Here's a good question - how many coaches have been successful coaching their former team-mates? Browny struggled a bit, Toovey ultimately got the flick from Manly though I don't think he coached many or any players from his playing days. David Furner?

As far as I can see he won't be Coaching anyone , that's not the job

It was in reference to Todd Payten.

My mistake, sorry!!

 

[gallagher]

Look it works for everyone else , might land me a job

Just because your a great clubman , doesn't necessarily mean you will be a good administrator

And when you still have ties to certain people whether it players or administration, it just complicates everything and muddies the waters

So if an issue came up with Dene Halatau or Robbie or MacDonnell or any others pre 2005 links , can we trust that he can use perspective in making any decisions or will his "brotherhood" still rule his decisions ??

Two players probably in their last year at the club. It's no issue. Plus what are the chances of Farah causing problems?

I think you should ask what are the chances the Farah won't cause problem's . he still has supporters in high places

Geez - what a surprise. Farah is bad and Taylor is good.

Who mentioned Taylor? Your obsessed with him

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I'm sure he will have a talk to our halves about Club Loyalty

It's a very romantic notion, but I'm sure the process will be more complicated than that.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Here's a good question - how many coaches have been successful coaching their former team-mates? Browny struggled a bit, Toovey ultimately got the flick from Manly though I don't think he coached many or any players from his playing days. David Furner?

Toovey had been retired for over 10 yrs, and Furner hadn't played for the Raiders in nearly 10 when he became coach. Very different scenario to Brown. Not that i endorse Payten, but he's getting to that stage now where if he did come back, the appropriate amount of time has passed for him to be able to be viewed differently to a Brown who became coach less than 3 yrs after he retired. Brown was a unique case where he was coaching players older than he was. You'll never see that again. In saying that, he did have some success making a couple pre lim finals. He did fantastic taking into account his age and experience.

 

[Snake]

What a great opportunity the club had to employ a smart operator with good connections to the top end of town … But no employ a Mr Nice guy no offence to Mr Oniel but when is this club going to get its act together ,jobs for the boys always end in tears.

 

[iofthetigers]

What a great opportunity the club had to employ a smart operator with good connections to the top end of town … But no employ a Mr Nice guy no offence to Mr Oniel but when is this club going to get its act together ,jobs for the boys always end in tears.

Mark O'Neill should be given the opportunity to be judged on his merits now not what he achieved as a player. Who else applied for this position?

 

[supercoach]

Let's hope he can convince a few kids on our roster,that if you stay at one club all your career more doors open for you when your career is done and dusted

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I can handle jobs for the boys if the boys are capable of doing the job.

I love Buckets so unfortunately I'm wearing the rose coloured glasses on this one. I desperately want him to succeed because he's a legend and the club needs someone to get in there and help turn the ship away from the iceberg. Cautiously optimistic about it, but if he does pull it off he'll be an immortal of the club.

 

[Icon]

Good luck Mark, and hoping you have lots of success!

 

[cktiger]

Seriously.. can people take off the rose coloured glasses?
On the match review committee…. so what?
I don't know the guy - and no one has mentioned any credentials he may have for the job apart from being a nice guy and former player.
Seriously hope he has the skills for the position and not just given the job because of the connection with the team.
Outside of Tigers eyes he was an average player at best - hopefully (for us) he'll turn out to be a better administrator.

 

[balmain boy]

While Mark doesn't have first hand experience in managing a club, he has experience working in the NRL and handling matters involving all the clubs you'd imagine. So he'd be somewhat aware how things work at the top. The very top GMs would demand a motza, which we don't have so yes we'd probably need to be shopping in the mid-lower end of the market.

He's run a business, he's worked in management in the NRL for a number of years, he played for over 10 years in the NRL/ARL. He may well have ticked the most boxes out of the other realistic applicants.

One of the other names mentioned was Stuart Raper. Would he have been better? I don't think so. He's been out of the game for a fair while and spent a lot of his time coaching in England.

The fact Buckets is a club legend only helps things. Think, if someone had to deliver some bad news to someone such as Robbie, i'd trust Buckets to deliver it more than Pascoe, Taylor, Go etc. I think he'd be able to connect with the players more than anyone else with the club, put things in language they understand without causing dramas, and he's also a highly professional person in everything he does. There would be no way he would undermine his role simply to make an old mate happy. I doubt Robbie and Buckets would hav been best mates anyway given their age difference when they played together.

All sports GMs need to get a first gig at some point. Richardson, Greenberg, everyone needs to start somewhere. Who knows, buckets could be running the NRL in 20 years time!

I wish him well and have the utmost confidence in the board that he wasn't simply selected because he used to play for us. If it were just the Balmain + Wests board members i may have had some doubts, but not in the current set-up.

 

[magpiecol]

Seriously.. can people take off the rose coloured glasses?
On the match review committee…. so what?
I don't know the guy - and no one has mentioned any credentials he may have for the job apart from being a nice guy and former player.
Seriously hope he has the skills for the position and not just given the job because of the connection with the team.
Outside of Tigers eyes he was an average player at best - hopefully (for us) he'll turn out to be a better administrator.

Could not agree more.

Is it official, or another "maybe it will be O'Neill?"

 

[Russell]

While Mark doesn't have first hand experience in managing a club, he has experience working in the NRL and handling matters involving all the clubs you'd imagine. So he'd be somewhat aware how things work at the top. The very top GMs would demand a motza, which we don't have so yes we'd probably need to be shopping in the mid-lower end of the market.

He's run a business, he's worked in management in the NRL for a number of years, he played for over 10 years in the NRL/ARL. He may well have ticked the most boxes out of the other realistic applicants.

One of the other names mentioned was Stuart Raper. Would he have been better? I don't think so. He's been out of the game for a fair while and spent a lot of his time coaching in England.

The fact Buckets is a club legend only helps things. Think, if someone had to deliver some bad news to someone such as Robbie, i'd trust Buckets to deliver it more than Pascoe, Taylor, Go etc. I think he'd be able to connect with the players more than anyone else with the club, put things in language they understand without causing dramas, and he's also a highly professional person in everything he does. There would be no way he would undermine his role simply to make an old mate happy. I doubt Robbie and Buckets would hav been best mates anyway given their age difference when they played together.

All sports GMs need to get a first gig at some point. Richardson, Greenberg, everyone needs to start somewhere. **Who knows, buckets could be running the NRL in 20 years time!**

I wish him well and have the utmost confidence in the board that he wasn't simply selected because he used to play for us. If it were just the Balmain + Wests board members i may have had some doubts, but not in the current set-up.

What do you mean in 20 years time!

If Grant is the best they can do - then Buckets should be running it now.