Matt Lodge New York thread

Feel a lot of Empathy for his family must be hard seeing your son continually waste opportunities given to him from a young age…Lodge not so much...If this is not a wake up call for him ...I dunno what would..hope it inspires him to turn his life around but I reckon he's pretty much screwed...
 
I don't know how much empathy i have for the family, not to sound too cold but both parents are cops, he's been constantly surrounded by drama and minor misdemeanours over at least the last 4-5 years. Many of which were alcohol fuelled rampages.
If neither he nor his parents could do anything to curtail him then they can't complain about him eventually doing something really stupid, and to make it worse for them - in one of the worst countries in the world to have done it in.
I'm sure they tried something, but he probably needed to be checked into a rehab clinic, and have a tattoo on his forearm saying something like 'don't be a stupid bastard'.

He's just a really, really thick bloke. Perhaps there's not much you can do to someone who simply doesn't have the brain capacity to act like a normal human being.

But yes, it's most likely he'll be in jail for at least the next 10 years and his parents will be bankrupt.
 
http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/wests-tigers/former-wests-tigers-player-matthew-lodge-pleads-guilty-in-us-court-20151223-glu81g.html

This article from the SMH says he pleaded guilty under a plea deal and may avoid jail.
 
@matchball said:
His poor parents.
Ulimately they will be out of pocket and possibly bankrupt and a son doing a decade minimum in prison.
They should just cut him loose and let him pay for his crimes.

Whilst I agree with you in principle, his parents aren't just going to cut him loose like that. Just a shame he didn't receive the help he needs earlier in life.
 
@matchball said:
His poor parents.
Ulimately they will be out of pocket and possibly bankrupt and a son doing a decade minimum in prison.
They should just cut him loose and let him pay for his crimes.

Your kids are your kids for life

You love them no matter what and you are their parents until they die or you die

My brother emptied my Dad's workshop twice while he was on holidays …... lathes the lot
 
@willow said:
@matchball said:
His poor parents.
Ulimately they will be out of pocket and possibly bankrupt and a son doing a decade minimum in prison.
They should just cut him loose and let him pay for his crimes.

Whilst I agree with you in principle, his parents aren't just going to cut him loose like that. Just a shame he didn't receive the help he needs earlier in life.

Absolutely Willow. Parents should love their children unconditionally, and never give up on them.
Like you said, he needed help much earlier in life. There's a powerful lesson to be learned from all this. Hope he's learned it.
 
I was taking a girlfriend to a psychologist re drinking and violence issues and surprising to me, the psychologist advised to let her go through all the dysfunction and whatever misfortune occurs she will learn from it. Stupid me thought we were supposed to protect our friends.
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
I was taking a girlfriend to a psychologist re drinking and violence issues and surprising to me, the psychologist advised to let her go through all the dysfunction and whatever misfortune occurs she will learn from it. Stupid me thought we were supposed to protect our friends.

How did she turn out ??
 
It sounds like a terrible ordeal but millions of dollars for several minutes of displeasure? Please… These people ask for millions get thousands and most of that goes to lawyers. Lodge sounds like he was out of his mind. Well he can toss his passport in the bin at the very least. I can't see him doing gaol time. Probation deportation litigation.
 
Getting her on the pill fixed the shocking temper/violence, balanced the hormones. The drinking went up and down but mainly controlled herself. The pill was ten times more beneficial than any psychologist. As well she felt a lot better when things could have flared up previously - she did not have big explosion and pressure inside of her.
 
@Yossarian said:
It sounds like a terrible ordeal but millions of dollars for several minutes of displeasure? Please… These people ask for millions get thousands and most of that goes to lawyers. Lodge sounds like he was out of his mind. Well he can toss his passport in the bin at the very least. I can't see him doing gaol time. Probation deportation litigation.

He won't do time, i agree.
 
Yeah, plea deal & deportation will most likely be the criminal outcome, hence why compensation claim has been filed so quick.

The lawyers know once he has left the country, they won't see him again!
 
@Tigermama said:
@willow said:
@matchball said:
His poor parents.
Ulimately they will be out of pocket and possibly bankrupt and a son doing a decade minimum in prison.
They should just cut him loose and let him pay for his crimes.

Whilst I agree with you in principle, his parents aren't just going to cut him loose like that. Just a shame he didn't receive the help he needs earlier in life.

Absolutely Willow. Parents should love their children unconditionally, and never give up on them.
Like you said, he needed help much earlier in life. There's a powerful lesson to be learned from all this. Hope he's learned it.

Whos to say he wasnt offered help earlier….it may have been availaible to him.
Someone has to WANT to be helped first, before help can be of any use.
He may have rejected it.
I dont know
 
If it happened here he would have told everyone about all the bad things that happened to him through his childhood.
Everyone would have then had a good cry, said sorry to him, arranged access to some money and help, and told him to go with their blessing.
 
@cktiger said:
If it happened here he would have told everyone about all the bad things that happened to him through his childhood.
Everyone would have then had a good cry, said sorry to him, arranged access to some money and help, and told him to go with their blessing.

Sometimes psychology can be connected and complicated. I learnt that if a child watches their mother being assaulted that when they become adults they become very protective of people they love and will quickly turn to violence to protect them, even when not warranted. Not suggesting is Lodge's case at all. Was in Herald a few weeks ago.
 
@Flippedy said:
I think this guy has more problems than the average idiot player like Bird, Lui Carney etc. He is a bad seed, who I hope won't ever play again.

Actually I think Lui is just as much a psycho, but Lodge was caught in a juristiction that takes violent offences seriously. The State of New York doesn't mess around, and he's a fair chance of spending a year in prison, even with the felony home invasion charge pleaded down. He's lucky the dude whose door he kicked in didn't shoot him on the spot, cos that's 100% legal over there.

I'm sure Nick Politis will be watching with interest at sentencing. If Lodge is allowed to return home then he should be good to go in Coogee come about 2018.

In other news Craig Field's going to prison for a minimum 7 year stretch. The Tigers do pick em.
 
@innsaneink said:
@Tigermama said:
@willow said:
@matchball said:
His poor parents.
Ulimately they will be out of pocket and possibly bankrupt and a son doing a decade minimum in prison.
They should just cut him loose and let him pay for his crimes.

Whilst I agree with you in principle, his parents aren't just going to cut him loose like that. Just a shame he didn't receive the help he needs earlier in life.

Absolutely Willow. Parents should love their children unconditionally, and never give up on them.
Like you said, he needed help much earlier in life. There's a powerful lesson to be learned from all this. Hope he's learned it.

Whos to say he wasnt offered help earlier….it may have been availaible to him.
Someone has to WANT to be helped first, before help can be of any use.
He may have rejected it.
I dont know

True. Can't disagree with that. Who's to say indeed.
 
Former Wests Tigers player Matthew Lodge pleads guilty in US court
Date December 23, 2015 - 4:41PM
Peter Mitchell

Former Wests Tigers prop Matthew Lodge has secured a plea deal in New York that could let him sidestep a jail sentence, but he still faces paying millions of dollars to the victims of his violent rampage. He faces a maximum sentence of one year in jail when sentenced on June 17\. The more serious charges of felony burglary, and burglary of dwelling causing injury charges, with a minimum five-year and maximum 25-year jail sentence, were dismissed.

The victims of the troubled 20-year-old's night of terror slapped Lodge with a 17-page civil lawsuit on Monday containing frightening allegations of the violence and threats attributed to the 193cm tall, 110kg rugby league player inflicted at about 4am on October 16."The lives of five innocent people, including a boy of nine-years-old, were forever changed by the vicious and violent attacks by defendant Matthew Lodge, a professional rugby player with a history of violence and animosity towards women," the lawsuit states. It describes how Carolin Dekeyser and a female friend were getting out of a cab near their friend's Upper West Side apartment when "a thickly-muscled, visibly intoxicated" Lodge approached and spoke aggressively to the driver. The cabbie urged Ms Dekeyser and her friend to get to the apartment and then he drove away, according to the lawsuit. Lodge allegedly began asking the women to return to Australia with him and then threatened them by saying, "This is the night you die". The women ran to their friend's building but Lodge followed, grabbed Ms Dekeyser by the shoulders, spun her around to face him and "began to ramble about his desire to take the women to Australia to meet his family".

The women buzzed all 10 apartments in the building and Lodge followed them into the foyer.Joseph Cartright, a photographer and resident, heard the buzzer and went to the front door to help. The women allegedly ran to their friend Guillaume Roemaet's apartment and when a shirtless, tattooed Roemaet came out to see if he could help, Lodge allegedly said: "You don't scare me. I have tattoos too. I'm going to kill you". Mr Roemaet allegedly pushed the women back into his apartment and locked the door and Lodge forced himself into Mr Cartright's apartment, where his wife Ruth Fowler and nine-year-old son were. Lodge allegedly paced inside and said: "My name is Matthew Lodge. I come in peace. Salaam Alaikum," and then walked into the bedroom where Ms Fowler was in bed calling police. The lawsuit says Salaam Alaikum is a common "peace to you" greeting among Muslims.

Mr Cartright allegedly attempted to cajole Lodge outside their front door and once outside, Ms Fowler closed the door. Lodge allegedly became "enraged" and "grabbed Mr Cartright, put him in a headlock and repeatedly punched Mr Cartright in the head, landing multiple blows to his left ear and skull". Lodge allegedly ran back into the apartment and shoved furniture behind the door to prevent Mr Cartright from getting in. Ms Fowler grabbed her son and locked themselves in a bathroom, placed her back against the door and used the sink as leverage. Lodge allegedly was in the kitchen smashing plates and glasses and then attempted to punch his way into the bathroom and "wood splintered around her head and into the bathroom".

When eight NYPD officers arrived Lodge allegedly threw a two-litre bottle of wine at them.Fearing a hostage situation, the police entered the apartment with their guns drawn, but found Lodge cowering in a bedroom closet, according to the lawsuit.
 
Lodge forced himself into Mr Cartright's apartment, **where his wife Ruth Fowler and nine-year-old son were**. Lodge allegedly paced inside and said: "My name is Matthew Lodge. I come in peace. Salaam Alaikum," and **then walked into the bedroom where Ms Fowler was in bed** calling police.

I wasn't previously aware of that detail. That makes the home invasion aspect a lot scarier, and will carry some weight at sentencing.
 

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