Matthew Bell

[softlaw]

We're going to have 3 or 4 forwards around 21 or younger! An older, experienced, no frills hard worker is exactly what these young kids need to learn from.
As long as he's professional off the field and teaches them a good work ethic and that a props first job is to go forward and do the tough, dirty, unrecognised stuff (NOT to score tries for crying out loud :brick: ) then he'll be a good signing.

 

[jirskyr]

I'm sorry Matt Bell is a coat, he has no impact whatsoever. If we want to sign a bloke who regularly gets smashed because he runs slow and straight, then yes by all means, sign him up.

But he isn't half the footballer Gibbs is.

Forget Bell and give a kid a run.

 

[tigerlogic]

He would be good for our club, the young blokes will still get a go next year but they cannot be relied on for the whole season at their age, this yer has shown us ther will be injuries, the kids will get there time but bell would be a solid option with our other forwards..
Not fussed if we don't though
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[tiger_sean]

This could be a great signing.
These are the sort of players that would go to the storm or dragons and do there job really well.

 

[851]

He has scored 1 try since his debut in 2006\. Bryce Gibbs looks like a superstar next to him. Would much rather give the younger forwards an opportunity than sign another plodder.

Gibbs hasn't scored a try since the GF in 2005.

 

[system]

He has scored 1 try since his debut in 2006\. Bryce Gibbs looks like a superstar next to him. Would much rather give the younger forwards an opportunity than sign another plodder.

Gibbs hasn't scored a try since the GF in 2005.

Or made a dominant tackle. His cleanup work will be hard to replace though

 

[Andyvee]

He has scored 1 try since his debut in 2006\. Bryce Gibbs looks like a superstar next to him. Would much rather give the younger forwards an opportunity than sign another plodder.

Since when the hell are props in the side to score tries?

Comparing who we let go for who we are supposedly signing. If you are happy to replace an average player with another one, well good luck to you…...enjoy your life :slight_smile:

 

[hybrid_tiger]

He has scored 1 try since his debut in 2006\. Bryce Gibbs looks like a superstar next to him. Would much rather give the younger forwards an opportunity than sign another plodder.

Since when the hell are props in the side to score tries?

Comparing who we let go for who we are supposedly signing. If you are happy to replace an average player with another one, well good luck to you…...enjoy your life :slight_smile:

How about you compare on stats that a prop should be measured on, such as hit ups, metres per run, total metres, tackles etc.

Why would you compare the amount of tries scored by props? :crazy

 

[MacDougall]

M Bell vs. Bulldogs
29 minutes for 11 hitups, 105 metres, 2 tackle breaks, 19 tackles

M Bell vs. Souths
36 minutes for 16 hitups, 117 metres, 1 tackle break, 1 offload, 25 tackles

M Bell vs. Gold Coast
34 minutes for 12 hitups, 71 metres, 1 tackle break, 1 offload, 20 tackles

M Bell's last three games there. If you're only as good as your last game, M Bell is better than Fifita and Gibbs that's for sure.

B Gibbs vs. Parramatta
50 minutes for 9 hitups, 67 metres, 1 offload, 28 tackles

B Gibbs vs. Bulldogs
42 minutes for 9 hitups, 77 metres, 3 tackle breaks, 33 tackles

A Fifita vs. Parramatta
27 minutes for 7 hitups, 35 metres, 0 tackle breaks, 1 offload, 15 tackles

A Fifita vs. Bulldogs
38 minutes for 10 hitups, 82 metres, 3 tackle breaks, 1 offload, 29 tackles

Sure Penrith fared better in those two matches than the two I took from WT so let's go back to the last WT win and see how they compare.

B Gibbs vs. Warriors
40 minutes for 12 hitups, 114 metres, 3 tackle breaks, 1 offload, 1 line break, 20 tackles

A Fifita vs. Warriors
36 minutes for 6 hitups, 42 metres, 1 tackle break, 21 tackles

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Alright so Gibbsy does good in a winning team but even then his stats are only AS good as M Bell (who actually did equal the work in less match time) but Fifita doesn't rate, ever.

Matt Bell over Fifita mates. Read em and weep.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

i'd rather keep Junior Moors over Matt Bell

 

[Tigersmurf]

Our prop really only did 18 hit ups in two weeks??? I know he did plenty of tackling, but this is certainly showing why we can defend OK but have no go forward.

I don't care how good your defense is, if you aren't going forward you are losing field position and your opposition will score tries! Mix the poor meters from the props with our ordinary kicking game and you have our problems right there!

Easily fixed, bring in someone who can tuck the ball under the arm and run hard.

 

[BalmainJnr]

If your looking for an experienced Prop to help the current U/20's next year would a 12 month contract to someone like Ryles be a better option than a 29 year old Matthew Bell?

 

[supercoach]

If your looking for an experienced Prop to help the current U/20's next year would a 12 month contract to someone like Ryles be a better option than a 29 year old Matthew Bell?

Its all about the price tag, sure their are plenty of better players around but we need a experienced prop on a budget price tag. Woods and Fifita have shown us this year how hard it is for the young players to maintain a high standard week in and week out

 

[hybrid_tiger]

If your looking for an experienced Prop to help the current U/20's next year would a 12 month contract to someone like Ryles be a better option than a 29 year old Matthew Bell?

Ryles? We have already gotten rid of one penalty magnet in Gibbs, Ryles is even worse.

 

[Andyvee]

He has scored 1 try since his debut in 2006\. Bryce Gibbs looks like a superstar next to him. Would much rather give the younger forwards an opportunity than sign another plodder.

Since when the hell are props in the side to score tries?

Comparing who we let go for who we are supposedly signing. If you are happy to replace an average player with another one, well good luck to you…...enjoy your life :slight_smile:

How about you compare on stats that a prop should be measured on, such as hit ups, metres per run, total metres, tackles etc.

Why would you compare the amount of tries scored by props? :crazy

The try example was not a comprehensive based analysis of both Gibbs and Bell. I was merely making a tongue in cheek comment that both are of similar standard, and Gibbs has tripled Bells try scoring feats (which really means sweet FA). So why would you replace one with the other? With the massive shedding of players, with a view of bringing in the young guns, I was hoping that they would be consistent.

Don't let the irony of this get into the negligible facts of try scoring ability…..... :brick:

 

[happy_tiger]

Seeing though we will have both Skando and Todd Payten on the coaching staff and Adam Blair Ellis and Keefy Do we need a Matthew Bell type player . Between both Skando and Payten there wouldn't be much these blokes could not teach the younger fellas and On field leaders like Blair , Keefy, Ellis and even Rhino why is he needed ??

 

[Chadman_s_Ghost]

Supercoach is on the money- people are comparing Gibbs & Bell as players, but contractually, you get the same or marginally worse preformance from Bell for half the cost of Gibbs- allowing a signing of, say, Adam Blair.

Bell off the bench for a year allows Groat & Begovich (maybe Roq too) the chance to split bench time & reggies time before being relied upon as constant 1st graders.

Bell, Woods, Fulton & Groat/Begovich on the bench is looking solid.

Wonder where this puts Moors? Out of the running all together?

 

[system]

So why would you replace one with the other?

One has the right attitude and is priced well.

The other is a bit of an arseclown and more overpriced than caviar

 

[hybrid_tiger]

So why would you replace one with the other?

Bell would be on far less wages than Gibbs would have been, and based on the stats he makes more metres with ball in hand.

 

[Spartan117]

i'd rather keep Junior Moors over Matt Bell

Moors has had a few opportunities early on and for whatever reason didnt have the stats to justify a repeat showing.

I will watch Bell a little closer this week…