Mayer

@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@MightyTiger said:
Sounds to me Irvine your the one with little idea buddy. This is an open forum where everyone can voice their own opinion but you seem to think it's okay to rubbish everyone when they do. So in saying that, if you are so clued up to what is happening, you sure make some ridiculous comments.

Firstly if the players were so disgruntled why are the majority re signing? Secondly would you be happy if the club gave in and payed Tedesco $650,000 + for a player that has broken down several times and played 20 odd games in three years? Yes don't get me wrong, the kid has serious talent, but the club has done the right thing and payed what he is worth at the moment, not what he could, would or should be worth, they stick to their offer and didn't give in to his managers games.

Thirdly you say you know so much and your an insider at the club, but gee your info is off a lot of the time, it must be one of a few things. Either your just a supporter trying to big note your self or your the EXACT problem people like Mayer are trying to get rid off at the club, staff with their own agendas thinking they are bigger then the club. Seems like you might be next to get a tap on the shoulder if the latter is true buddy.

Oh and by the way, I never said Mayer is the best CEO going around, but he is a damn sight better then half the monkeys out their and seems to run a financially solid club!

Change is good when its removing cancer. :sign: :sign:

So we are a financially solid club are we????
Something about that statement doesn't quite add up.
We must be going to see an influx of top level players soon then.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@MightyTiger said:
Sounds to me Irvine your the one with little idea buddy. This is an open forum where everyone can voice their own opinion but you seem to think it's okay to rubbish everyone when they do. So in saying that, if you are so clued up to what is happening, you sure make some ridiculous comments.

Firstly if the players were so disgruntled why are the majority re signing? Secondly would you be happy if the club gave in and payed Tedesco $650,000 + for a player that has broken down several times and played 20 odd games in three years? Yes don't get me wrong, the kid has serious talent, but the club has done the right thing and payed what he is worth at the moment, not what he could, would or should be worth, they stick to their offer and didn't give in to his managers games.

Thirdly you say you know so much and your an insider at the club, but gee your info is off a lot of the time, it must be one of a few things. Either your just a supporter trying to big note your self or your the EXACT problem people like Mayer are trying to get rid off at the club, staff with their own agendas thinking they are bigger then the club. Seems like you might be next to get a tap on the shoulder if the latter is true buddy.

Oh and by the way, I never said Mayer is the best CEO going around, but he is a damn sight better then half the monkeys out their and seems to run a financially solid club!

Change is good when its removing cancer. :sign: :sign:

So we are a financially solid club are we????
Something about that statement doesn't quite add up.
We must be going to see an influx of top level players soon then.

Change is good when its removing cancer. :sign: :sign:
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@MightyTiger said:
Sounds to me Irvine your the one with little idea buddy. This is an open forum where everyone can voice their own opinion but you seem to think it's okay to rubbish everyone when they do. So in saying that, if you are so clued up to what is happening, you sure make some ridiculous comments.

Firstly if the players were so disgruntled why are the majority re signing? Secondly would you be happy if the club gave in and payed Tedesco $650,000 + for a player that has broken down several times and played 20 odd games in three years? Yes don't get me wrong, the kid has serious talent, but the club has done the right thing and payed what he is worth at the moment, not what he could, would or should be worth, they stick to their offer and didn't give in to his managers games.

Thirdly you say you know so much and your an insider at the club, but gee your info is off a lot of the time, it must be one of a few things. Either your just a supporter trying to big note your self or your the EXACT problem people like Mayer are trying to get rid off at the club, staff with their own agendas thinking they are bigger then the club. Seems like you might be next to get a tap on the shoulder if the latter is true buddy.

Oh and by the way, I never said Mayer is the best CEO going around, but he is a damn sight better then half the monkeys out their and seems to run a financially solid club!

Change is good when its removing cancer. :sign: :sign:

So we are a financially solid club are we????
Something about that statement doesn't quite add up.
We must be going to see an influx of top level players soon then.

Change is good when its removing cancer. :sign: :sign:

Keep those slogans comin', luv em!
 
I think Mayer has held his position well over the last few months and with the new board and other new positions he has been able to concentrate wholly on the financial side and marketing side of the club….he should be commended on his role so far,let's see how he goes toward the end of the year...
 
Our membership numbers are embarrassing…..we should have at least 20,000\. Get the players out before games selling memberships, i would have some presence at every significant corporate/social function between Balmain to Cambo.
 
Once the team really starts achieving on the field we will see a huge surge in memberships. Maybe 2016?
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@MightyTiger said:
Sounds to me Irvine your the one with little idea buddy. This is an open forum where everyone can voice their own opinion but you seem to think it's okay to rubbish everyone when they do. So in saying that, if you are so clued up to what is happening, you sure make some ridiculous comments.

Firstly if the players were so disgruntled why are the majority re signing? Secondly would you be happy if the club gave in and payed Tedesco $650,000 + for a player that has broken down several times and played 20 odd games in three years? Yes don't get me wrong, the kid has serious talent, but the club has done the right thing and payed what he is worth at the moment, not what he could, would or should be worth, they stick to their offer and didn't give in to his managers games.

Thirdly you say you know so much and your an insider at the club, but gee your info is off a lot of the time, it must be one of a few things. Either your just a supporter trying to big note your self or your the EXACT problem people like Mayer are trying to get rid off at the club, staff with their own agendas thinking they are bigger then the club. Seems like you might be next to get a tap on the shoulder if the latter is true buddy.

Oh and by the way, I never said Mayer is the best CEO going around, but he is a damn sight better then half the monkeys out their and seems to run a financially solid club!

Change is good when its removing cancer. :sign: :sign:

So we are a financially solid club are we????
Something about that statement doesn't quite add up.
We must be going to see an influx of top level players soon then.

yes we are. any evidence that we're not?

balmains woes are irrelevant to us.

every club in the NRL, including us, use essentially the ENTIRE salary cap. so that last comment is innane.
 
Yeah the Balmain woes are essentially what a lot of other clubs are experiencing. Mayer said only 2-3 clubs were making money and the NRL has significant interests in most clubs. I expect that we are in transition from club to private ownership.

This is a good thing because of the short sightedness of most clubs boards ie. they think about surviving from day to day not strategically has what has held the BRL back compared to AFL. Boards made up of people with few skills, poor governance etc. the NRL is waiting for these clubs to go broke before they go in and put a best practice structure in place.

i think you will find many of Dave Smith's reforms are being resisted at club level. Once the NRL is in control they can start to build efficiencies and ensure all aspects of the games function properly ie. ground operations, memberships (all admin/marketing should be handled by a centralised unit). You could go on forever because the game has been mismanaged for years.
 
@larrycorowa said:
Our membership numbers are embarrassing…..we should have at least 20,000\. Get the players out before games selling memberships, i would have some presence at every significant corporate/social function between Balmain to Cambo.

Lol. Get them out selling memberships after a win, when everyone is on a high and a little bit tipsy :bulb:
 
@larrycorowa said:
Our membership numbers are embarrassing…..we should have at least 20,000\. Get the players out before games selling memberships, i would have some presence at every significant corporate/social function between Balmain to Cambo.

Talking of memberships, anyone else still not received their membership package as yet.
Round 5 and I still haven't received mine.
What a joke !

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@pHyR3 said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@MightyTiger said:
Sounds to me Irvine your the one with little idea buddy. This is an open forum where everyone can voice their own opinion but you seem to think it's okay to rubbish everyone when they do. So in saying that, if you are so clued up to what is happening, you sure make some ridiculous comments.

Firstly if the players were so disgruntled why are the majority re signing? Secondly would you be happy if the club gave in and payed Tedesco $650,000 + for a player that has broken down several times and played 20 odd games in three years? Yes don't get me wrong, the kid has serious talent, but the club has done the right thing and payed what he is worth at the moment, not what he could, would or should be worth, they stick to their offer and didn't give in to his managers games.

Thirdly you say you know so much and your an insider at the club, but gee your info is off a lot of the time, it must be one of a few things. Either your just a supporter trying to big note your self or your the EXACT problem people like Mayer are trying to get rid off at the club, staff with their own agendas thinking they are bigger then the club. Seems like you might be next to get a tap on the shoulder if the latter is true buddy.

Oh and by the way, I never said Mayer is the best CEO going around, but he is a damn sight better then half the monkeys out their and seems to run a financially solid club!

Change is good when its removing cancer. :sign: :sign:

So we are a financially solid club are we????
Something about that statement doesn't quite add up.
We must be going to see an influx of top level players soon then.

yes we are. any evidence that we're not?

balmains woes are irrelevant to us.

every club in the NRL, including us, use essentially the ENTIRE salary cap. so that last comment is innane.

Our back ended Salary cap problems have been mentioned on enough occasions on here, to
Not need doing it again.
Having one half of the joint Venture a hairsbreathe away from falling over.( hardly irrelevant)
Having ex players going public with statements about club payments
Having to have an outside board installed to get some sort of sanity out of the old boards mess.
All of these things don't exactly point to a record of being a financially solid club, or maybe you think they do.
I'm not saying that we aren't at last working our way out of some of these problems and on the way to becoming a much better run club. We seem to be doing just that
But up to this season , we've been run by Muppetts for quite a while
Now could you describe to me ,what was inane in my last post?
 
@MightyTiger said:
I believe he handled the whole Tedesco contract pretty good (he didn't given into scum player agents and pay massive overs, he stuck to his original offer).

That's the official line, but I was never sure if that actually happened. If Wests Tigers upped the offer to keep Teddy, they did a hell of a job covering it in "I decided it was important to stay with my mates".
 
We got very lucky keeping tedesco. He changes the whole dynamic if our team and should never have been risked. As for not paying him figures like 500-650\. I think you'll find this is cheap for a star nowadays.

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@goldcoast tiger said:
@pHyR3 said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
Change is good when its removing cancer. :sign: :sign:

So we are a financially solid club are we????
Something about that statement doesn't quite add up.
We must be going to see an influx of top level players soon then.

yes we are. any evidence that we're not?

balmains woes are irrelevant to us.

every club in the NRL, including us, use essentially the ENTIRE salary cap. so that last comment is innane.

Our back ended Salary cap problems have been mentioned on enough occasions on here, to
Not need doing it again.
Having one half of the joint Venture a hairsbreathe away from falling over.( hardly irrelevant)
Having ex players going public with statements about club payments
Having to have an outside board installed to get some sort of sanity out of the old boards mess.
All of these things don't exactly point to a record of being a financially solid club, or maybe you think they do.
I'm not saying that we aren't at last working our way out of some of these problems and on the way to becoming a much better run club. We seem to be doing just that
But up to this season , we've been run by Muppetts for quite a while
Now could you describe to me ,what was inane in my last post?

salary cap problems basically mean we're playing nuffies hundreds of thousands of dollars. e.g. Moltzen, Blair and Lawrence. As well as paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for the SHARKS salary cap which comes out of our own.

we are financially solid, we just havent managed our cap that well in the last few years but its getting better now.

Wests Tigers are financially solvent, Balmain aren't. It doesn't affect Wests Tigers because we will get bankrolled by Ashfield, Magpies and worst comes to worst the NRL. Who loaned money to Balmain NOT wests tigers, in exchange for most of their voting rights on our board.

the only valid point there about wests tigers was ex players talking about club payments, but i havent seen too much conrete evidence regarding that or follow up. As far as i can tell, they were promised some TPAs which werent able to be finalised.
 
i didn't say that we aren't financially Solvent. I agree that areunlikely to fall over.
What I said was financially Solid,.
We certainly aren't in a solid position when we cannot compete with other clubs in the player market, and whether we like it or not , the perception is out there that we are have
Financial problems. I've also stated that things look like improving.
weve had a financial problem from well back in the Sheens era, and it doesn't matter what the cause was ( bad cap management or just bad overall management), the result has been the same
Not enough money to compete for the quality of players and facilities that we want or need

I'll look at us as being a Financially Solid club when we are able to compete for those players, and not just the players that other clubs don't want.
And we are not there yet
 
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