M'BYE

[Tiger5150]

Mbye has settled at centre and is a solid player. If you can move him on you do it in a heart beat he’s not worth close to 500k let alone 750k. Goes without saying for anyone that watches games closely. Pulls out of contact, lacks effort and doesn’t use his speed. From fullback stifled the attack and was caught with the ball on the 5th numerous times. He’s a solid centre that’s his position.

Im not actually convinced he isnt at 5/8. He actually has a great pass on him which is wasted at centre. Im not sure of it but I think he has potential there.

To me its ironic. He has all the attributes of a great fullback except he cant catch kicks.

 

[Chaos]

@cochise Ok, your entitled to your opinion, I disagree but it don’t matter.
Overall, I just want the best players on the field come game time.

 

[cochise]

@cochise Ok, your entitled to your opinion, I disagree but it don’t matter.
Overall, I just want the best players on the field come game time.

He is definitely one of our 17 best players and was our best centre last year!

 

[Tiger5150]

@cochise Ok, your entitled to your opinion, I disagree but it don’t matter.
Overall, I just want the best players on the field come game time.

For mine that is the mystery with Mbye. He is DEFINITELY in our best 17, but isnt the best in any position.

 

[Jimmy]

@Glenn5150 injures ruined him this season, was fantastic in 2018, kicking game need some work but my goodness he can through a pass, I think momo and Mbye combo will stay on an edge this year with momo moving into the centres and Mbye to 6 in 2021, if anyone doubts Mbyes ability, rewatch both highlights against the dragons last year, throws to amazing balls, imo if this kid is in form playing either at FB or 5/8 he derseves his pay packet

 

[TYGA]

Mbye has settled at centre and is a solid player. If you can move him on you do it in a heart beat he’s not worth close to 500k let alone 750k. Goes without saying for anyone that watches games closely. Pulls out of contact, lacks effort and doesn’t use his speed. From fullback stifled the attack and was caught with the ball on the 5th numerous times. He’s a solid centre that’s his position.


Im not actually convinced he isnt at 5/8. He actually has a great pass on him which is wasted at centre. Im not sure of it but I think he has potential there.

To me its ironic. He has all the attributes of a great fullback except he cant catch kicks.

I’ve been watching him for years as I go to many Dogs games with mates. He is an illusion struggles reading numbers and making the right decisions. Biggest issue is he avoids collision and rarely gets in anyone’s face defensively and is slow to get to the ball from fullback. He has gotten by on pure speed for too long. His weaknesses are masked at centre and his strengths running and draw and pass are made look better. Issue is he’s on a big deal for a centre.

 

[Tiger5150]

Mbye has settled at centre and is a solid player. If you can move him on you do it in a heart beat he’s not worth close to 500k let alone 750k. Goes without saying for anyone that watches games closely. Pulls out of contact, lacks effort and doesn’t use his speed. From fullback stifled the attack and was caught with the ball on the 5th numerous times. He’s a solid centre that’s his position.


Im not actually convinced he isnt at 5/8. He actually has a great pass on him which is wasted at centre. Im not sure of it but I think he has potential there.

To me its ironic. He has all the attributes of a great fullback except he cant catch kicks.

I’ve been watching him for years as I go to many Dogs games with mates. He is an illusion ***struggles reading numbers and making the right decisions***. Biggest issue is he avoids collision and rarely gets in anyone’s face defensively and is slow to get to the ball from fullback. He has gotten by on pure speed for too long. His weaknesses are masked at centre and his strengths running and draw and pass are made look better. Issue is he’s on a big deal for a centre.

You may have nailed the enigma for me. He has the skills required, pace off the mark and a great pass but not the RL brain. That actually makes some sense.

 

[Masterton]

Mbye has settled at centre and is a solid player. If you can move him on you do it in a heart beat he’s not worth close to 500k let alone 750k. Goes without saying for anyone that watches games closely. Pulls out of contact, lacks effort and doesn’t use his speed. From fullback stifled the attack and was caught with the ball on the 5th numerous times. He’s a solid centre that’s his position.


Im not actually convinced he isnt at 5/8. He actually has a great pass on him which is wasted at centre. Im not sure of it but I think he has potential there.

To me its ironic. He has all the attributes of a great fullback except he cant catch kicks.

>Biggest issue is he avoids collision and rarely gets in anyone’s face defensively

That was not the impression I had at the end of last year. He was smashing some people in defence.

 

[Chaos]

@Glenn5150 I see where your coming from, but for a guy on the cash he is on, that’s not good enough IMO, it translates to a ‘Bad Signing’ in my books.
Let’s get players and know what to do with them, let’s develop players right and no what to do with them, let’s keep the players who know where they wanna play and can perform in their chosen position.
Let’s get rid of the baggage.

 

[Tiger5150]

@Glenn5150 I see where your coming from, but for a guy on the cash he is on, that’s not good enough IMO, it translates to a ‘Bad Signing’ in my books.
Let’s get players and know what to do with them, let’s develop players right and no what to do with them, let’s keep the players who know where they wanna play and can perform in their chosen position.
Let’s get rid of the baggage.

The fact that he is on too much $$ is indisputable. But he is here, Madges job is to get the best out of him. If he plays well in a winning team, what he gets paid becomes irrelevant, particularly as relief is available in a couple of years.

 

[Chaos]

@Glenn5150 It is what it is, obviously my opinion won’t change Madge’s Mindset.
But I’m just saying he has been average, every player who makes then 17 should bring something, they should be pressured to perform week in week out.
If we have young talent with potential, ild prefer to see them crack 1st grade over Mbye.
Do we really want to waste time on Mbye? Is he a keeper?
Meanwhile scouts will be poaching our young talent because guys like Mbye had too many chances.
It’s a trend that has been happening with the tigers for a long time.
I trust Madge will choose the best 17, if Mbye is in that 17 then good in the bloke, I just hope he plays well.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Bottom line for me is that he is worth $500k odd. So unless WT were to be paying well less than the difference between that and his actual contract to offload him, then there is no point trying to move him on and even less reason for us to keep worrying about it. Paying overs for sure, but that is done and can't be changed whether Moses remains or not, so time to suck it up and just move on.

Can't be any worse than the Farah contract/s situation, which cost WT plenty and they are still paying a price for.

 

[TYGA]

Mbye has settled at centre and is a solid player. If you can move him on you do it in a heart beat he’s not worth close to 500k let alone 750k. Goes without saying for anyone that watches games closely. Pulls out of contact, lacks effort and doesn’t use his speed. From fullback stifled the attack and was caught with the ball on the 5th numerous times. He’s a solid centre that’s his position.


Im not actually convinced he isnt at 5/8. He actually has a great pass on him which is wasted at centre. Im not sure of it but I think he has potential there.

To me its ironic. He has all the attributes of a great fullback except he cant catch kicks.

>Biggest issue is he avoids collision and rarely gets in anyone’s face defensively

That was not the impression I had at the end of last year. He was smashing some people in defence.

How often has he done that over a decade? Madge moved him from fullback for a reason and the fact the captain aims up after being moved says a lot really. The reality is he is a first grade quality player paid massive overs and a good team guy. If you subsidise his contract to move him on it’s pointless as he will be worth the money you save in the salary cap. If a club wants him full freight you don’t blink.

 

[earl]

Biggest issue is he avoids collision

This isn't true at all. He defended really well in the centres last year and I saw him getting involved and taking tough hit-ups on numerous occasions.

I think it's a simple problem in that he is being paid overs. It's nothing like the overs for Packer and Reynolds though. Just pay him what he is worth or let him go next contract.

 

[earl]

Bottom line for me is that he is worth $500k odd. So unless WT were to be paying well less than the difference between that and his actual contract to offload him, then there is no point trying to move him on and even less reason for us to keep worrying about it. Paying overs for sure, but that is done and can't be changed whether Moses remains or not, so time to suck it up and just move on.

Can't be any worse than the Farah contract/s situation, which cost WT plenty and they are still paying a price for.

I reckon this is exactly right. He isn't really a problem for us. You can also use him wherever we need him most. You can play him at 9 next year for instance.

 

[Masterton]

Mbye has settled at centre and is a solid player. If you can move him on you do it in a heart beat he’s not worth close to 500k let alone 750k. Goes without saying for anyone that watches games closely. Pulls out of contact, lacks effort and doesn’t use his speed. From fullback stifled the attack and was caught with the ball on the 5th numerous times. He’s a solid centre that’s his position.


Im not actually convinced he isnt at 5/8. He actually has a great pass on him which is wasted at centre. Im not sure of it but I think he has potential there.

To me its ironic. He has all the attributes of a great fullback except he cant catch kicks.

>Biggest issue is he avoids collision and rarely gets in anyone’s face defensively

That was not the impression I had at the end of last year. He was smashing some people in defence.

How often has he done that over a decade? Madge moved him from fullback for a reason and the fact the captain aims up after being moved says a lot really. The reality is he is a first grade quality player paid massive overs and a good team guy. If you subsidise his contract to move him on it’s pointless as he will be worth the money you save in the salary cap. If a club wants him full freight you don’t blink.

I wasn't defending his price, just saying he hasn't been avoiding contact recently, which you claimed was his "biggest issue". Don't really care what he was doing a decade ago.

 

[Madge]

@Earl It's more the intensity and work ethic that I think might have prompted @TYGA alluded to as "avoiding collision". The fullback role is a demanding position. The centre position I feel as though suits Mbye, as he has the pockets of intensities that vary, where he can pick his moments at the right time, and blanket his deficiencies in that department., i.e the rushing defence, shutting down the play and putting on a big hit.

 

[Tiger5150]

@Glenn5150 It is what it is, obviously my opinion won’t change Madge’s Mindset.
But I’m just saying he has been average, every player who makes then 17 should bring something, they should be pressured to perform week in week out.
If we have young talent with potential, ild prefer to see them crack 1st grade over Mbye.
Do we really want to waste time on Mbye? Is he a keeper?
Meanwhile scouts will be poaching our young talent because guys like Mbye had too many chances.
It’s a trend that has been happening with the tigers for a long time.
I trust Madge will choose the best 17, if Mbye is in that 17 then good in the bloke, I just hope he plays well.

Understand your position, hard to disagree. But Im hopeful

 

[TCL]

Bye Bye M’bye.

I was so looking forward to him coming across and he played ok in 2018.

He played well in the centres and if I was Madge I’d use him there but not at that price. From memory he struggles to pass.

A 9 he is not and at best he is a running 6.

So if there is a suitor for him I would wish him the best of luck.

 

[Tiger5150]

Bottom line for me is that he is worth $500k odd. So unless WT were to be paying well less than the difference between that and his actual contract to offload him, then there is no point trying to move him on and even less reason for us to keep worrying about it. Paying overs for sure, but that is done and can't be changed whether Moses remains or not, so time to suck it up and just move on.

Can't be any worse than the Farah contract/s situation, which cost WT plenty and they are still paying a price for.

I reckon this is exactly right. He isn't really a problem for us. You can also use him wherever we need him most. You can play him at 9 next year for instance.

Got me thinking Earl.....beyond forgetting what we are paying for him, and beyond his potential at centre. He really does have possibly the most versatile skillset (maybe with MCK) in the club. Can play 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 or 9 in various levels of capability.