Mick Potter on the Sunday Footy Show

[TrueTiger]

I really hope next year there will be a refreshing change and stability within the Club,so that when we go on the forum we will be able to praise the new board,players,coach ,staff and be in the top 4 ready to win the premiership…sometimes although difficult we must remain positive,I think that most of us have healthy opinions on matters and don't always agree with each other, but that's what makes the world go round......

West Tigers...here's to a fresh new start in 2015......

 

[Telltails]

A hobbled Lawrence being picked at centre every week this seasondid not have anything to do with our bad season?. Take the blinkers off and be honest. I know what many will say "We didn't have any centre replacements" This however is a very weak excuse - the coach at no time tried to encourage the club to buy a centre with some semblance of ability. The best he could come up with was Lulia. This is where we the team became a crocker - playing crocks week in and week out. The opposition teams knew it and took full advantage. Like the saying goes, you make the bed, you have to sleep in it.

The coach never had a say….
So who picked the teams each week? Who was coaching the team Payten and Kidwell? Then can we give credit to Mick for any of the wins then if he had no say as you suggest? Clearly we are not making him accountable for the shocking losses cause he had no say - so how can we credit him for the wins when he had no say?
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I think he had a say and control to a point how much of a say and control did he have and when did he have it who knows

All I know is that Potter knows how to coach what he doesn't do well is play the political game of lies and deception he copped from the club the CEO Support staff and players.

The club has a lot of issues it needs to fix but potter wasn't one of them if anything he was the only decent person in there with the right intentions.

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I think he had a say and control to a point how much of a say and control did he have and when did he have it who knows
I thought you knew! So you don't know what level of control he had over the wins or losses, but you know he can coach! I admire your loyalty to Mick but am glad that you were not the person making the decision about the renewal of his contract based on that deduction.

 

[Newtown]

If Mick was strong he would have taken action about the perceived lack of control he was being provided by the club. The longer he sat on the situation the worse it became for all the club.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I am not a big fan of Adam Blairs onfield play or the pricetag he comes at but I can assure you OFF THE FIELD Adam Blair certainly is a good leader of our polynesian players especially aswell as Blake Austin and a few of the others.You see I do know what happens with these players off the field and if you asked Blake Austin and Bodene Thompson some of the reasons for their success would be better concentration and professionalism with the help of people like Blair.Yet again has that leadership from Blair helped others yes but for the most part it certainly hasnt improved him as a player.Although Blair was better this year than last year.So Improvement is there.Our problem isnt with the onfield abilities of the players its they are weak off it.I dont know that I want to keep Adam Blair either(due to his pricetag/play)but I am just saying that in an area we could improve(off field leadership)Blair does a good job.Heres another potential leader for you completely from left field,Sitaleki Akouala.Ever since James Gavet has had alcohol problems and coming to games late(which is a joke for a first grader I know)Sitaleki(despite only being 22 years old)has taken James under his wing and his alcohol and punctuality has improved markedly.If you rewatch the easter game where we beat Parra at homebush in one of our best games of the year It was James Gavet and Sita(As I and other friends call him)who were the stars in the forwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V2sBURgUBI

 

[NT_Tiger]

"But it wasn't about trying to please Robbie. It was about trying to get the best out of the team all the time. "**Sometimes it doesn't rub too well with him.**"

Sums it up for me.

 

[LCA]

Where to now for Robbie Farah? Potter has effectively broadsided him during that interview and Robbie, to my mind, is now more than ever, a major culprit in how our season unfolded.

Our captain FFS!!!!

I was never sure who to blame, or how much to blame one or another. But, this interview, from a very measured, rational, reasonable person like Potter has shifted the spotlight squarely onto our captain.

Where to from here? More of the same from Robbie next year? Any slump in his form will be interpreted as some "behind the scenes" drama, whether it's true or not.

How do the other players feels about his actions and his temperament and his lack of team-focused leadership? Truly feel, I mean…... not what they might safely comment to media.

He probably should leave, for his own benefit. His reputation is tarnished irreversibly now. and some of us will never forgive him for his part if derailing our season and bringing down an honourable man like Mick Potter.

 

[philgood]

**"But it wasn't about trying to please Robbie. It was about trying to get the best out of the team all the time. "Sometimes it doesn't rub too well with him."** **Mick Potter**

To me that says Robbie thinks that his opinion is more important than that of the coach and the team. God help us if Robbie doesnt get his way! Robbie just needs to concentrate on letting his football do the talking and letting his ego take a back seat.

In saying that, Robbie wasnt the reason Potter got sacked. We can thank Grant Mayer and the board for that. Spineless, gutless, bastards

 

[Newtown]

I looked up the Wests Tigers Website this morning and saw that the club is using, to promote registrations for 2015, a poster with a large photo of Robbie Farah combined with the following words in large block letters.

Unite
Commit
Achieve.

I thought to myself "How Ironic".

Seriously, this saga at Wests Tigers is not over by a long shot. Robbie will have to change his ways and pledge loyalty to the new coach. Clearly his mind over the past two years has not been in the right space. Stepping down from the captaincy would be the best thing for his game. The club has a future, level headed, leader in Blake Austin waiting in the wings.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I tend to agree with a lot of the thoughts on here, but I still cant look past the fact Robbie is still our best player.

Further to this, it is also obvious to me that Robbie places a greater emphasis on his Blue Jumper than he does his Tiger Jumper [he still bleeds Tigers] and I'm starting to wonder how/what/why this became reality?

At the end of the day, the Tigers are not in a position to move on Robbie Farah as the impact on Sponsors will be too great 12months after the loss of Benji Marshall.

Maybe appointing a new Captain is the solution and allow Robbie to play his natural game, or does he simply need a coach who is prepared to say, "kid, I'll run the team on & off the park, you do you job as per my game plan"???

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

Adam Blair is the real off the field captain of these guys WITHOUT A DOUBT.

Adam Blair :laughing: Now I know you are just making things up.

I am not a big fan of Adam Blairs onfield play or the pricetag he comes at but I can assure you OFF THE FIELD Adam Blair certainly is a good leader of our polynesian players especially aswell as Blake Austin and a few of the others.You see I do know what happens with these players off the field and if you asked Blake Austin and Bodene Thompson some of the reasons for their success would be better concentration and professionalism with the help of people like Blair.Yet again has that leadership from Blair helped others yes but for the most part it certainly hasnt improved him as a player.Although Blair was better this year than last year.So Improvement is there.Our problem isnt with the onfield abilities of the players its they are weak off it.I dont know that I want to keep Adam Blair either(due to his pricetag/play)but I am just saying that in an area we could improve(off field leadership)Blair does a good job.Heres another potential leader for you completely from left field,Sitaleki Akouala.Ever since James Gavet has had alcohol problems and coming to games late(which is a joke for a first grader I know)Sitaleki(despite only being 22 years old)has taken James under his wing and his alcohol and punctuality has improved markedly.If you rewatch the easter game where we beat Parra at homebush in one of our best games of the year It was James Gavet and Sita(As I and other friends call him)who were the stars in the forwards.

Your forum names says it all Jerry Sienfield
Adam Blair as our new leader rolmfao great gag I'm pissing my self laughing here's a thought let's make gavet VC too he shows real leadership qualities….... At a pub give your self an uppercut jerry as in the previous post stated you must be making this up or you just don't have a clue I think it's the latter

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Mafia unlike you I know and talk to the players often away from the game.Never said anything about a pub.At no time did I suggest James Gavet should be Vice captain what I did say Is Sita(Akouala)has shown great leadership in fixing James Gavets problem of being late for games and alcohol as he is picking him up for games and helping him with life issues.Remember Mosese Fotuaika.Maybe the only thing you wish to remember is my username.(gee mafia is a great username :crazy )I know I remember Mosese.It just shows how players who help and support others are greatly needed in this game.Adam Blair the first few seasons on the field was a complete train wreck at times re his price tag etc I agree but one thing he has done off the field is help teach guys like Tapau and Austin and others how to live like men.I just wish that Robbie could learn the importance of Honesty and transparency(off the field)so that he would have 16 players around him that would be willing to go to war with him on any given Sunday.Robbie Farah on the field in my eyes is superb but this last year has taught me hes not captain material(due to off field stuff)Robbie has the hunger of a piranha and thats his greatest asset as he strives for success but sometimes in his quest for success this last couple of years he has made some questionable calls off it.He just needs someone in leadership and to be able to accept a boot up the ass(instead of thnking he is above it).It takes a lot of guts to throw your body on the line every week and this is what Robbie does very well.Just needs to learn winning starts on monday.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Meh. For all the Farah-bashing here, I got a totally different impression of this interview. He clearly stated his problems with Robbie, but his real complaint was not having the support to make the decisions he felt needed to be made. I felt he was laying the blame at the feet of Mayer and the board, and the big change he wanted to make was his assistant coaches.

I only got to see the interview this afternoon , read it twice as I was wondering where some on here were using it as confirmation that Farah was white anting Potter .
Unless something was edited out, Potter said that he and Farah were ok but had some issues through the season. How does someone interpret that to mean Farah was white anting anyone . Is he talking about when Farah was talking to him about getting Moses on the field ? Did Farah push for Austin to be in the run on team ? Did Farah tell him that Anasta was a waste of space who knows
My impression of the interview (and the one he did weekend before last ) was the same as you. He was complaining that he didn't have the total support that he needed , and I would imagine that would mean his support staff .
As he mentioned the start of the season, I wouldn't think that there were too many problems at that stage unless he was referring to the lower grade coaches , there's been more than enough to suggest that both lower grade coaches wanted his job.
Some on here have suggested that he didn't get to pick his team. That's laughable, no club has a selection panel any more Potter picked the teams. If things were as bad as the Farah bashers suggest I would have no problems with Potter taking any action he wanted to , and as for anyone saying that he couldn't drop Farah or takethe captaincy off him.
Why didn't he do it, He had no problem when he dropped Marshall .
So why didn't do the same if Farah deserved it.
He was a rookie coach in the NRL , and surely he would have known that he would be judged by all clubs ( and possibly a future employer) on how he handled the team . as well as how they performed on the field .
I think that he would have had much bigger problems in other areas, but it's convenient for some here to add to the list of unproved accusations , It would be a good for those people to watch the interview again and then tell us all , thewhat in that interview supports their argument that Farah caused his sacking. (Try and stick to the facts))
Mayer is the only person in the club who was able to make a recommendation to the Board and he is certainly not about to take any advice from Robbie Farah . The new board is obviously not stupid , but as they have little knowledge of the game , would probably have taken the CEOs recommendation .

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

So no three opportunitys to address either old and or new boards…as mayer reported.

Seemed genuinely positive though about the now admin

Ink , I think he did say previously that he did get to address the board on a couple of occasions and put forward his plans for the future.
Not sure whether it was three times though . But he said he did get a good hearing.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Everything keeps pointing back to Farah.

We have been a boys club that have divided sheds and have been shafting coaches for about 5 years.Benji leaves after rumors he or robbie got rid of sheens and yep the coaches keep on getting shafted by "someone" well after Benji and Stephen Humphreys leaves.Mayer has been here one year and a few "select" people on here want to blame him for a culture that started well before he got here by "someone".When all this came out a poster on here even had the audacity to call me a freaking racist when I questioned "someone" aka Robbie Farah for his antics.Unlike the person accusing me of racism I will continue to blame the arsonist and not the freaking fireman.

We have had two coaches in ten years. Pretty stable compared to a lot of other clubs. Farah may have had something to do with both coaches being sacked and or not having their contracts renewed, but both coaches also have to own the fact that their own performances for whatever reason were deemed not good enough.

We have sacked two coaches in 3 years.This is a direct result of Robbies building ego and after getting his own way for too long it has just snowballed into one massive trainwreck in regards to Robbie Farah and not having the slightest bit of integrity.I soooo hope the first thing our new coach does is strip Robbie of the captaincy and let it be known robbie is to shut up and play football and only football.If he doesnt like it he can rack off.

One of those coaches lasted 7 or 8 years and the other lasted two.
The first one went because he wasn't getting results on the field and the Board which was rife with infighting was completely dysfunctional . I might add that there were very few , on here or anywhere for that matter that disagreed with that sacking.

The second coach especially , was always going to be a chance of not lasting long as he had no say in staff, and was selected as much on price as anything else( and I don't mean that as an insult to Potter. But it's just how it was) we couldn't afford anyone on a higher amount because of our ridiculous management and the money that we were still paying out. It was probably fifty fifty as to whether Potter stayed or not . Also I thought that the accepted theory was that Marshall caused Sheens Demise
Ah well who really knows??
By the way Jerry , have you thought about answering the question that I've put to you twice now about where you get all these"facts "
From. Other people have asked you as well , but you seem very reluctant to give any answer at all . Maybe there isn't one!!

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

We all feel for mp but the Farah bashing is a bit sad but each to your own opinions that's fine but here is a fact potters win percentage 31% FACT now imo that is not good enough his team selection of
2nd rowers on the wings letting go 2 genuine wingers mid season is farcical please don't blame our injuries Penrith were hit just as bad as we were mick may be a nice bloke but I would bet my balls that if he was at another club with that % he would be shown the door quick smart

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IF HE WAS AT ANY OTHER CLUB HE WOULDNT HAVE THE CLUB CAPTAIN BACKSTABBING HIS EVERY MOVE AND ESCAPING CAPTAINS INTERVIEWS BURROWING LIKE A RAT UNDER A FENCE TO GET INTO A WAITING SUBARU EITHER.CAPS

Show us the proof Jezza, and don't forget those answers as well
As I said , Put Up Or Shut Up

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

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We have been a boys club that have divided sheds and have been shafting coaches for about 5 years.Benji leaves after rumors he or robbie got rid of sheens and yep the coaches keep on getting shafted by "someone" well after Benji and Stephen Humphreys leaves.Mayer has been here one year and a few "select" people on here want to blame him for a culture that started well before he got here by "someone".When all this came out a poster on here even had the audacity to call me a freaking racist when I questioned "someone" aka Robbie Farah for his antics.Unlike the person accusing me of racism I will continue to blame the arsonist and not the freaking fireman.
We have had two coaches in ten years. Pretty stable compared to a lot of other clubs. Farah may have had something to do with both coaches being sacked and or not having their contracts renewed, but both coaches also have to own the fact that their own performances for whatever reason were deemed not good enough.

We have sacked two coaches in 3 years.This is a direct result of Robbies building ego and after getting his own way for too long it has just snowballed into one massive trainwreck in regards to Robbie Farah and not having the slightest bit of integrity.I soooo hope the first thing our new coach does is strip Robbie of the captaincy and let it be known robbie is to shut up and play football and only football.If he doesnt like it he can rack off.

One of those coaches lasted 7 or 8 years and the other lasted two.
The first one went because he wasn't getting results on the field and the Board which was rife with infighting was completely dysfunctional . I might add that there were very few , on here or anywhere for that matter that disagreed with that sacking.

The second coach especially , was always going to be a chance of not lasting long as he had no say in staff, and was selected as much on price as anything else( and I don't mean that as an insult to Potter. But it's just how it was) we couldn't afford anyone on a higher amount because of our ridiculous management and the money that we were still paying out. It was probably fifty fifty as to whether Potter stayed or not . Also I thought that the accepted theory was that Marshall caused Sheens Demise
Ah well who really knows??
By the way Jerry , have you thought about answering the question that I've put to you twice now about where you get all these"facts "
From. Other people have asked you as well , but you seem very reluctant to give any answer at all . Maybe there isn't one!!

If you read the thread on NUMEROUS occasions you will see its cause I KNOW many of the players away from the game.FACT.Also what part of the Potter interview(the first one AWAY from being coach)gave you the inclination he and robbie was sweet?Was it the 30 second pause before speaking when asked about Robbie?Or was it the answer of on the SURFACE me and Robbie were OK.(Wonder how the relationship was if you dug one millimetre below the surface :laughing: )Anyhow Im done with bashing Robbie and to be honest The only reason I have pointed the finger at Robbie so much is because I feel it has been unfairly pointed at Mayer.I felt Robbie threw Mayer under the bus in the gould interview.Remember at the time Robbie said he and Mayer hadnt spoken in over a week.Well my belief is its hard for Mayer to touch base with him when he is crawling under a fence straight after a game is finished.Etc Etc.You know the truth is robbie was just under a little stress at the time and his headspace at the time was clouded.I am now going to support Robbie in the hope he becomes a better person off the field and continue to support the changes that Mayer is bringing to this club.In the one season Mayer has been here we have seen significant changes off the field(ones that us supporters have been crying out for for a long time).

 

[Geo]

LOL…I bet your not Jerry ...you said that yesterday yet here you are regurgitating the same stuff.... :bash

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

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The club has 100 bigger problems then the captain, and our most consistently performing player.

Lets make Farah the scap goat though fo why we are a basket case. Id rather he be furious he are so bad then be happy and eat money like Lawrence, Galloway, Moltzen, Blair etc.

Yeah lets get rid of Robbie and watch us win the comp. Please! He should have left a few years ago but he is too loyal. Farah is a winner, and has a winners mentality. I know he is far from perfect but i dont blame him for the state this club is in.

Robbie needs to learn to be a winner off the field.You can try as hard as you like on the field if your teammates think your captain is a two faced troublemaker good luck with your dreams of winning.Loyal as in 4.5 million for 5 years aswell as a self declared allowance to hire and fire coaches as he pleases.No that aint loyalty pal.**But your loyalty to Robbie to the detriment of Wests Tigers is duly noted.**

Who are you going to tell, his mother?
Or maybe your good buddy , Mayer?
Now you are taking note of those who have the temerity to disagree with you?
In all your ranting and raving and finger pointing you haven't come up with a single fact that Farah pushed Potter or did anything else you are accusing him of - for that matter none of the others carrying pitchforks have either.
Could you kindly name the players who think he's a two faced troublemaker?
He may well have a big head and be demanding - just like 90% of the high profile players I have met over the years but his passion for the club can't be questioned.
Loyalty for Robbie at the detriment of the Tigers? :laughing:
Haven't you bashed Farah enough ,Jerry? :deadhorse:

It is public knowledge Farah pushed potter(whilst Potter wasnt watching)Robbie said so himself on the interview with gus.You sit there saying who will I tell his mother etc.Dont you think thats a little immature(especially considering you are accusing me of ranting and raving)You know where this comes from?Or ranting or raving as you put it?Passion pal and plenty of it for My Wests Tigers and I aint going to see this club go under while some would rather bury there heads in the sand and blame the fireman instead of the arsonist.Mayer didnt get rid of Sheens and Benji didnt get rid of potter did they?My good buddy Mayer?I have never met the bloke.But I for one am absolutely loving the change that he is bringing to this club regarding new board structure and independent reviews etc.This club needs a big kick up the ass and Mayer is doing exactly what is needed so anyone who dreams of whiteanting this club from within can rack off.

Now you are trying to give Mayer credit for the new board

He had nothing to do with it . It was the NRL who instigated that. It was a condition for them bailing Balmain out. And I didn't think that the crop of kids that we have is Mayers doing , in fact Sheens had more to do with that then Mayer .
And if Tedesco's remaining at the club depended on Mayer , the only time we would have seen him play would have been when we play Canberra. I believe that it was Farah and payten who were responsible for him still being here.

You are getting even funnier than the real Jerry Seinfield :laughing:
You call me immature when you were going to 'take note' of someones loyalty to Farah as being anti WestsTigers?
You bash the crap out of Farah ad nauseam in every thread and blow steam up Mayer every chance you get.
Then you have the hide to go on about passion for the club being everything when the bloke you are putting the slipper into is the most passionate of anyone.
Nuff said.

Not interested in getting into a name calling catfight with you CK.But let me say this.Let me go on record and say Robbie Farah the footballer is top notch.Robbie farah off the field re potter and others equals very poor.Why do you think it was nearly two weeks before Robbie fronted training again to front up to his coach and teammates.Cause he knew what he did was wrong.I have had my share of Farah bashing on this thread and a few others lately I will admit and I have stuck up for Mayer(and theres been plenty of Mayer bashing from others too to be fair) because my belief is that if you look at the timeline of major events over the past year our decline wasnt cause of Mayer(or Potter).Our season was ruined "THE DAY" the Tallis interview was aired on the day of the saints game(we smashed the dogs the week before).The day before this interview came out we were all on cloud nine talking finals and possible grand final after the saints game it was will we win another game all year.And it took a cronulla team playing its 37th player of the year for us to win the last round.I for one loved the review Brian Smith did and I think it will reap rewards for us down the track aswell as the new board restructure helping us to get away from all the Wests vs Balmain crap that has plagued the JV.Not to mention they seem much more business savvy than any other board we have ever had.We will finally have a new head coach that will have full reign of coaching staff and coaching decisions which should shut the players up and let the coaches coach.Not to mention we have the most talented youngsters in the game.These are all Mayer initiatives and that is why Im showing Mayer some love cause hes sowing the seeds of some very successful crops that we will harvest this time next year.Trust me.Just be patient with him.Anyways I have said my piece re Farah and Im done talking about him but I just hope he has learnt his lesson and acknowledges he made a mistake and he becomes a better person and as much a leader off the field as he is on it.To quote the greatest coach of all time Jack Gibson."winning starts on monday".

 

[Telltails]

I think you guys better agree to disagree

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

LOL…I bet your not Jerry ...you said that yesterday yet here you are regurgitating the same stuff.... :bash

Its a two way street Geo.When people start quoting you and try to get into immature arguments.But No more Robbie bashing.I promise.

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

We all feel for mp but the Farah bashing is a bit sad but each to your own opinions that's fine but here is a fact potters win percentage 31% FACT now imo that is not good enough his team selection of
2nd rowers on the wings letting go 2 genuine wingers mid season is farcical please don't blame our injuries Penrith were hit just as bad as we were mick may be a nice bloke but I would bet my balls that if he was at another club with that % he would be shown the door quick smart

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IF HE WAS AT ANY OTHER CLUB HE WOULDNT HAVE THE CLUB CAPTAIN BACKSTABBING HIS EVERY MOVE AND ESCAPING CAPTAINS INTERVIEWS BURROWING LIKE A RAT UNDER A FENCE TO GET INTO A WAITING SUBARU EITHER.CAPS

Show us the proof Jezza, and don't forget those answers as well
As I said , Put Up Or Shut Up

Ive told you on many occasions the answers.You dont want to listen thats fine.Im done arguing with you.Just keep blaming the fireman instead of the arsonist in life and see where it gets you Gold coast.