Moltzen and Groat

[Chunky_love_machine]

Groat shouldn't be starting. Too raw.

Moltzen doesn't have the same excuse. He is just mediocre.
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x2\. Groat will improve with age and experience. Moltzen looks anything but a halfback. There's no creativity, no kicking game and he's not taking the line on either. Tigers are essentially playing without a halfback and fullback at the moment.

Bingo, we have a winner!!!!! No half and no fullback, just bodies in jerseys. Heartbreaking what might have been with Tedesco. Damn!!!! As for moltz, he may as well carry water bottles when he plays so we can save a trainers wage. He's obviously not bothered with niggling things such as playing football

 

[Chunky_love_machine]

I think forumers should not come to expect big things early in the season, we are clearly a team who doesn't peak early and are more prone to peak later in the season. I'm still optimistic, we are premiership favourites for a reason.

As for you people who claim Moltzen isn't a halfback, you should take a good look at yourselves. Up until last week, we had never lost a game with Moltzen at halfback. No coincidence either, the guy has a good passing game, running game and has terrific vision and can defend (unlike Lui), important assets in being a quality half. The role he's playing at the moment does not come naturally to him and I can't understand why Sheen's has instructed him to play this role.

Are you crazy? Have you watched the games? He is the worst halfback in the NRL by a long way. In fact, he is in contention to be the worst player playing first grade.

Get rid of him. If Sheen's does not, then get rid of him as well.

We will never win a comp with Moltzen in the team. I have been saying since I forget when, that he will cost us big time. And boy, has he. Last year's semi against the Warriors and again last night. He was involved in three tries. All by St. George/Illawarra.

He is not alone however. Sheen's insists on playing out of form players, notably, Ayshford, Heinington and Farah.

God help us (and Sheen's) if Benji ever gets badly hurt.

Time for some youth and some speed.

One more thing. Am I mistake or did Sheen's only play three of the four reserves last night? Can't recall Meany getting a run. Good one Tim.

Add Lawrence to that list too, although I think Ayshford and Lawry's dramas are a product of a disjointed halves combo. At least Benji's happy his mate is playing (?) beside him.

 

[Diver]

Although i dont believe Moltz will ever be the worlds greatest halfback, i do believe he will get better over the next few games to the point where ill be happy with him there.

Groat has never really impressed me, he always seems to have his tongue hanging out panting for oxygen after being on the field for 5mins everytime! And when he grabbed the opposition by the leg last night and spun him around 360degrees with a minute on the clock to get a penalty, i nearly punched my tele off the wall.

i did like Moors and Bell again.

Not sure whats doing with Ayshford this year, he seems lost compared to other years. Im normally a massive fan of his.

 

[Diver]

Groat shouldn't be starting. Too raw.

Moltzen doesn't have the same excuse. He is just mediocre.
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x2\. Groat will improve with age and experience. Moltzen looks anything but a halfback. There's no creativity, no kicking game and he's not taking the line on either. Tigers are essentially playing without a halfback and fullback at the moment.

Bingo, we have a winner!!!!! No half and no fullback, just bodies in jerseys. Heartbreaking what might have been with Tedesco. Damn!!!! As for moltz, he may as well carry water bottles when he plays so we can save a trainers wage. He's obviously not bothered with niggling things such as playing football

hahaha, cheers for the laugh!

 

[andrew 474]

harsh talk on timy , this is the same player that turned in some great games in 2011 seasonn end relax he will come good ,, dragqueens wanted him for the next three years , but we still have him , tigers are winners thats why he stayed

 

[tigerbite]

Moltzen to fullback , groat go to bench or Toyota cup Give BMM a start at least the big fella ran straight and hard , humble looked to spark something last week the few minutes he played up in the line , miller ?
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[hybrid_tiger]

harsh talk on timy , this is the same player that turned in some great games in 2011 seasonn end relax he will come good ,, dragqueens wanted him for the next three years , but we still have him , tigers are winners thats why he stayed

Moltzen played about five or six good games last season, the rest of the time he was a liability.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

And even the good games Moltzen did play last year were a result of him being a support player. He never created a thing, not once.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

And even the good games Moltzen did play last year were a result of him being a support player. He never created a thing, not once.

Spot on. All his highlight reel consists of is running off Benji. Even when he was at halfback before he got injured.

 

[The_Phantom]

harsh talk on timy , this is the same player that turned in some great games in 2011 seasonn end relax he will come good ,, dragqueens wanted him for the next three years , but we still have him , tigers are winners thats why he stayed

Moltzen played about five or six good games last season, the rest of the time he was a liability.

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[shano]

Moltzen's best position is fullback. You have to give him credit for that considering how well he played in the back-end of last season and how many games we won with him there. As a half-back, he is ordinary to say the least. He merely catches and passes. He doesn't take the line on or even look like he's going to do anything creative. He doesn't even have a basic a kicking game. Any player in the entire club squad can perform that basic role of catch and pass, tackle and feed the ball into the scrum!

We need a quality half back that will take the heat off Benji. At the moment, Benji is doing all the creative stuff and most of the kicking in play. We are too predictable. Semi final bound teams need a quality half and five-eigth to provide options on both sides of the field to keep the opposition guessing. Lui defense wasn't great, but he had a kicking game and often would run to the line and even broke the line many times. Moltzen doesn't even look close to doing anything. He is a passenger in a crucial position which we can't afford if we want to win games.

We currently don't have a quality fullback or half back. Two very key positions. If we put Moltzen back to fullback at least one of those positions is covered. Miller tasted first grade last season and although his defense will not be as strong as Moltzen, he will definitely give far more in attack.

As for GROAT, OMG, he is an interchange player at best. He's slow, has one speed, very poor cardio fitness and is a massive liability in defense. I know he is young and will develop in time, but even then I still struggle to see him more than an interchange player.

 

[mc1991]

Get Daly CherryEvans at halfback, Moltz to fullback, and sack Tom Humble coz he's shit compared to moltz at fullback in the 2nd Half of last season..and with Ellis leaving at the end of this year I think we can definitly make a legitimate offer to DCE..
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[andrew 474]

DCE wont leave manly , moltz will get better the same as last year , he got bagged when he first played fullback , then it clicked for him , same again this year

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Get Daly CherryEvans at halfback, Moltz to fullback, and sack Tom Humble coz he's s*** compared to moltz at fullback in the 2nd Half of last season..and with Ellis leaving at the end of this year I think we can definitly make a legitimate offer to DCE..
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That is EXTREMELY debatable

 

[system]

So we have to wait 3/4 of a season for our halfback to click?

Oh goodie

 

[mc1991]

Get Daly CherryEvans at halfback, Moltz to fullback, and sack Tom Humble coz he's s*** compared to moltz at fullback in the 2nd Half of last season..and with Ellis leaving at the end of this year I think we can definitly make a legitimate offer to DCE..
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That is EXTREMELY debatable

please explain..
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[chkbehind]

Confident Moltzen will come good. Groat so ordinary! Can put Blair in that same class atm

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

I think forumers should not come to expect big things early in the season, we are clearly a team who doesn't peak early and are more prone to peak later in the season. I'm still optimistic, we are premiership favourites for a reason.

As for you people who claim Moltzen isn't a halfback, you should take a good look at yourselves. Up until last week, we had never lost a game with Moltzen at halfback. No coincidence either, the guy has a good passing game, running game and has terrific vision and can defend (unlike Lui), important assets in being a quality half. The role he's playing at the moment does not come naturally to him and I can't understand why Sheen's has instructed him to play this role.

Are you crazy? Have you watched the games? He is the worst halfback in the NRL by a long way. In fact, he is in contention to be the worst player playing first grade.

Get rid of him. If Sheen's does not, then get rid of him as well.

We will never win a comp with Moltzen in the team. I have been saying since I forget when, that he will cost us big time. And boy, has he. Last year's semi against the Warriors and again last night. He was involved in three tries. All by St. George/Illawarra.

He is not alone however. Sheen's insists on playing out of form players, notably, Ayshford, Heinington and Farah.

God help us (and Sheen's) if Benji ever gets badly hurt.

Time for some youth and some speed.

One more thing. Am I mistake or did Sheen's only play three of the four reserves last night? Can't recall Meany getting a run. Good one Tim.

Even by the standards of this forum, that's as a ridiculous a rant as I've seen. You're indignation has nothing to do with fact, it's just another baseless emotional outburst. Forget the fact that halves rely on space and time, courtesy of a dominant pack and decent field position, just conclude that it must be all Moltzen's fault. Saints forwards were outstanding, Harry Potter wouldn't have shone in the 7 jumper against them. Moltzen, notwithstanding injuries, will stay at 7.

 

[alexaki]

I think forumers should not come to expect big things early in the season, we are clearly a team who doesn't peak early and are more prone to peak later in the season. I'm still optimistic, we are premiership favourites for a reason.

As for you people who claim Moltzen isn't a halfback, you should take a good look at yourselves. Up until last week, we had never lost a game with Moltzen at halfback. No coincidence either, the guy has a good passing game, running game and has terrific vision and can defend (unlike Lui), important assets in being a quality half. The role he's playing at the moment does not come naturally to him and I can't understand why Sheen's has instructed him to play this role.

Are you crazy? Have you watched the games? He is the worst halfback in the NRL by a long way. In fact, he is in contention to be the worst player playing first grade.

Get rid of him. If Sheen's does not, then get rid of him as well.

Citizen Tiger is spot on!…and BTW I look forward to hearing your calls to the Slats and TK...when you're on the IQ level of the show jumps significantly.

We will never win a comp with Moltzen in the team. I have been saying since I forget when, that he will cost us big time. And boy, has he. Last year's semi against the Warriors and again last night. He was involved in three tries. All by St. George/Illawarra.

He is not alone however. Sheen's insists on playing out of form players, notably, Ayshford, Heinington and Farah.

God help us (and Sheen's) if Benji ever gets badly hurt.

Time for some youth and some speed.

One more thing. Am I mistake or did Sheen's only play three of the four reserves last night? Can't recall Meany getting a run. Good one Tim.

Even by the standards of this forum, that's as a ridiculous a rant as I've seen. You're indignation has nothing to do with fact, it's just another baseless emotional outburst. Forget the fact that halves rely on space and time, courtesy of a dominant pack and decent field position, just conclude that it must be all Moltzen's fault. Saints forwards were outstanding, Harry Potter wouldn't have shone in the 7 jumper against them. Moltzen, notwithstanding injuries, will stay at 7.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Get Daly CherryEvans at halfback, Moltz to fullback, and sack Tom Humble coz he's s*** compared to moltz at fullback in the 2nd Half of last season..and with Ellis leaving at the end of this year I think we can definitly make a legitimate offer to DCE..
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That is EXTREMELY debatable

please explain..
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To say that anyone is shit compared to Moltzen is like i said, EXTREMELY debatable. And the fact your only basing that off seeing Humble play 2 or 3 times, it doesn't say a lot