OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

I actually thought Mbye was fairly good today. Not perfect but fairly good.

Jennings was horrible, Masters was ok.

Our forwards were poor more then our backs
 
@weststigerman said in [Marsters said:
Jennings is one of the least skilful players we’ve ever had. All he can do is catch a bomb, can’t tackle, is slow and weak.

I’d be dropping him next week. Move Thompson back to the wing and put Dylan Smith at fullback. As average as Smith is, at least he’s fairly safe.


Don’t mind that idea. Time to blood some young ones.
 
What boggles my mind and makes me question Madge is the fact he made him our skipper.
He's a bench utility at this stage imo.
We desperately need some speed on the edges
 
I dont get the issue with Marsters. His goal kicking isn't strong enough and perhaps after today we are seeing a change in kicker.

But his attack and D were alright. Certainly outplayed Hoffman and some really good DH runs.
 
@jirskyr said in [Marsters said:
I dont get the issue with Marsters. His goal kicking isn't strong enough and perhaps after today we are seeing a change in kicker.

But his attack and D were alright. Certainly outplayed Hoffman and some really good DH runs.


I think his goal kicking gets in his head. You can see when he misses the down trodden look he gets. Give the kicking to Mbye and relieve him of the responsibility. It would be interesting to see if this results in a difference in Masters performance.
 
@jirskyr said in [Marsters said:
I dont get the issue with Marsters. His goal kicking isn't strong enough and perhaps after today we are seeing a change in kicker.

But his attack and D were alright. Certainly outplayed Hoffman and some really good DH runs.


You are not wrong but we need X Factor players, they dont need to be on top money...

Winger, Centre, halfback and two big aggressive forwards all with SPEED...

Problem solved.
 
I think we need to persevere with Mbye in the centres - he needs some time to find his feet there. It is a different position to play and hopefully he will adjust. I do think he should take on the goal kicking duties also - maybe it will help Mbye and also ease pressure on Marsters who can just focus on his game.
 
@Harvey said in [Marsters said:
Can't understand how Momo is not getting a run over some of these guys. We have no backs at all

He's not exactly setting the world alight...
 
@TIGERAURA said in [Marsters said:
@jirskyr said in [Marsters said:
I dont get the issue with Marsters. His goal kicking isn't strong enough and perhaps after today we are seeing a change in kicker.

But his attack and D were alright. Certainly outplayed Hoffman and some really good DH runs.


You are not wrong but we need X Factor players, they dont need to be on top money...

Winger, Centre, halfback and two big aggressive forwards all with SPEED...

Problem solved.

Honestly I think you get the side consistently building a forwards platform, eliminate the errors coming out of our end and find wingers who can make good yards early in the set...

Then see what X factor Marsters has. They rarely give him good ball and even then he still usually beats his centre opponent.

Thing I have noticed 2019 is Marsters hardly offloads, which was a big component of his game 2018. I don't know if it's my imagination but the whole side seems loathe for second-phase, ad if Madge isn't a fan.
 
@weststigerman said in [Marsters said:
Jennings is one of the least skilful players we’ve ever had. All he can do is catch a bomb, can’t tackle, is slow and weak.

I’d be dropping him next week. Move Thompson back to the wing and put Dylan Smith at fullback. As average as Smith is, at least he’s fairly safe.


Sadly this is the problem. We have no depth. Momo could be given a shot but we know won’t set the world in fire. Smith looks outclassed in CC, Bradley, Heleta and OTool from CC are un-selectable and wouldn’t be selected even if they could. Jennings has to be dropped for next game but the only option we have is Momo..
 
@jirskyr said in [Marsters said:
@TIGERAURA said in [Marsters said:
@jirskyr said in [Marsters said:
I dont get the issue with Marsters. His goal kicking isn't strong enough and perhaps after today we are seeing a change in kicker.

But his attack and D were alright. Certainly outplayed Hoffman and some really good DH runs.


You are not wrong but we need X Factor players, they dont need to be on top money...

Winger, Centre, halfback and two big aggressive forwards all with SPEED...

Problem solved.

Honestly I think you get the side consistently building a forwards platform, eliminate the errors coming out of our end and find wingers who can make good yards early in the set...

Then see what X factor Marsters has. They rarely give him good ball and even then he still usually beats his centre opponent.

Thing I have noticed 2019 is Marsters hardly offloads, which was a big component of his game 2018. I don't know if it's my imagination but the whole side seems loathe for second-phase, ad if Madge isn't a fan.


Our support play is diabolical
 
@jirskyr said in [Marsters said:
@TIGERAURA said in [Marsters said:
@jirskyr said in [Marsters said:
I dont get the issue with Marsters. His goal kicking isn't strong enough and perhaps after today we are seeing a change in kicker.

But his attack and D were alright. Certainly outplayed Hoffman and some really good DH runs.


You are not wrong but we need X Factor players, they dont need to be on top money...

Winger, Centre, halfback and two big aggressive forwards all with SPEED...

Problem solved.

Honestly I think you get the side consistently building a forwards platform, eliminate the errors coming out of our end and find wingers who can make good yards early in the set...

Then see what X factor Marsters has. They rarely give him good ball and even then he still usually beats his centre opponent.

Thing I have noticed 2019 is Marsters hardly offloads, which was a big component of his game 2018. I don't know if it's my imagination but the whole side seems loathe for second-phase, ad if Madge isn't a fan.


I agree with your offload point - we seem to have cut it out of our game. We did do some poor offloading a while back which cost us points and maybe Madge has got them trying to reduce their mistakes. At this point though I think we need something extra in attack and the offload is one of the most potent weapons.
Forwards that actually get over the advantage line and can poke through the defensive line are what we are missing.
 
@jirskyr said in [Mbye](/post/1034076) said:
Thought he was alright, took a while to warm to the match.

I thought the same. Looked very busy in the second 40. Frightened the Eels a few times. Nearly butchered Jennings try but he looked like he was having a proper go.
 
Not sure how he can get any wraps when his opposite scores a hat trick. Especially when the opposite is Takarangi
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye](/post/1034087) said:
Thought he was decent. I still think he’s a good fullback. He was great there last year. Not sure what’s changed

I agree, Thompson to wing, MBye to fullback, Momirovski to centre, and bye bye Jennings
 

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