OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

[Spud_Murphy]

Yes nice to see he’s come back from Origin full of confidence and a better player....🙄

 

[tigerap]

@momo_amp_medo Surprisingly we rank 7th in the NRL for most offloads per team, way ahead of some of the top teams like the Storm, Roosters and Raiders.

Unfortunately the stats don’t tell us anything about the quality of our offloads. Dribbling the ball out the back of the ruck along the ground is an offload and counts just as much as a forward pushing through the ruck and finding a support player flying through for a line break.

We also rank in the top one or two teams for line engaged and decoy runs, but low for tries scored and line breaks. That tells me our setups are ineffective and/or our players aren’t good enough to take the opportunity to beat their opposing player when they actually have some space. TLDR: lack of strike and talent in the backline and edges. Probably wrong options being taken in the halves too.

Nice insights.....sounds about right

 

[ALX22]

Jennings doesn't look fit enough. Is he carrying an injury?

 

[Geo]

Jennings doesn't look fit enough. Is he carrying an injury?

Did a heartlidge..

 

[Harvey]

Jennings doesn't look fit enough. Is he carrying an injury?

Did a heartlidge..

Won't get medical retirement, it was a pre-existing condition.

 

[851]

Jennings doesn't look fit enough. Is he carrying an injury?

Did a heartlidge..

Won't get medical retirement, it was a pre-existing condition.

I don't think it was, he scored 18 tries last year for souths and looked good, he has picked this injury up this year, although I think a heartliage can be cured with a stretch in CC

 

[Russell]

Jennings doesn't look fit enough. Is he carrying an injury?

Yes I think he had a lobotomy in the off season - they took out the will to score tries, take hit ups and defend - lucky for us they missed the catch the bombs incision.

 

[rustycage]

Lets just not kick for goal. There's a whole lot of upside. Esan doesn't cop the hit to his self belief, the opposition gets less rest time and we get more minutes to score more tries. Bring it.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Lets just not kick for goal. There's a whole lot of upside. Esan doesn't cop the hit to his self belief, the opposition gets less rest time and we get more minutes to score more tries. Bring it.

I don't think players know this rule. It drives me mad when teams score with a minute to go to get within a try, then waste a minute kicking the goal when they don't have to. The shot at goal can be declined.

 

[Furious1]

@rustycage Esan will get back some self belief when he decides to tuck the ball under the wing and hit the defensive line at top speed. As for his goal kicking, the only place i see that many hooks is when i attempt to play golf.

 

[tigeress]

Marsters has been poor all season but the last couple of games he has been improving a lot. He shouldn't be kicking and as stated above I think his poor kicking might impact his general play. Mbye has also been ordinary all season.

I think though both of these guys have potential in the centres. Mbye is reasonably fast and he looked a lot better in the second half against Parra.

Jennings doesn't look likely at this point.

I had to give watching that game away after half time on Sunday.....they were just pathetic, and for heavens sake when are they going to get a decent GOAL KICKER, we will never win games when we are not able to convert ANY tries we do get...thus far I am very disappointed with how the team is going this season-nothing seems to change- this is the first time I have felt so down hearted about this club (team)- I would like to SEE improvement soon:white_frowning_face: :white_frowning_face: :white_frowning_face:

 

[Russell]

@tigeress Don't think you are Robin (son) Crusoe.

 

[trafford10]

@momo_amp_medo hey I was just worried for you blokes.
I watched the game against Parra.
Worried that Mybe has his fangs into the jugular of your club and will suck the place dry.
That's all.

 

[BZN]

G'day @Russell: how is it that an obvious idiot supporter of the team coming last :white_frowning_face: ie the Poodles, can come on here spreading false information :skull_and_crossbones: with no other intention but to stir Our joint up. I assume there is a way of immediately banning :fist: him/her from further comment on Our Forum, cheers :relaxed:

 

[Russell]

Short answer Chief, is I don't know - you'll have ask the Mods.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Nothing stopping fans from other clubs joining up here. Trafford has done nothing wrong, got a clear issue with Mbye but hasn't done anything that has warranted a banning.

They can come here and share their info just like dozens of members here do that turn out to be wrong.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Nothing stopping fans from other clubs joining up here. Trafford has done nothing wrong, got a clear issue with Mbye but hasn't done anything that has warranted a banning.

They can come here and share their info just like dozens of members here do that turn out to be wrong.

I mean, they r free to come on... will do then good... make them start supporting tigers... the more people that hate manly the better

 

[CarltonDry]

@TYGA you forgot Jennings 🤬

 

[TYGA]

@TYGA you forgot Jennings 🤬

Go to give him a chance. First year and no offseason. He just looks unfit to me and runs like he knows he can’t take collision. He was signed in the remaining circa 275k we had spare due to the fine. At least he’s not on big coin. Solid Canterbury Cup player for Wests and cover for injuries. Must say I’m disappointed he looked the goods last year.

 

[jirskyr]

lacks effort, doesn’t want collision, reads numbers poorly in attack and defence and is a slow decision maker.

I don't really agree with any of this. He hits fairly hard IMO so I don't know what you mean about the collision, and this was proven doubly to me when he played Origin and was mostly tasked with defending.

I also don't see him beaten defending at centre, or making huge mistakes? Last week Eels peppered his LHS defence but for me Jennings was mostly the man caught in no-man's-land.

The thing for me is Mbye is competent to average in different aspects across the park. I'd hardly say he's poor at anything specific - it's reasonable first grade, often unexciting, standard. In that regard, I will not argue that he's not overpaid, because eventually we are paying him higher-end money (i.e. he was much better value when Dogs were taking more freight).

I understand people's frustration - that Mbye sometimes shows much better form, which isn't brought to that level every week. I don't think it's for fear of contact or being able to read the game, it just seems his intensity and concentration isn't equal week on week.