OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

I'm convinced now he's not a fullback, centre or hooker. Can fill there if desperate but he's a half. Got the dogs to a grand final at 7 didn't he? Plays well as a bench lock with new rules but I can't remember too well how he played when at 7 for the dogs. Does anyone recall why he was moved from 7
 
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Mbye](/post/1340635) said:
I've been his biggest critic and didn't want him anywhere near 1st grade but I must say he's been playing well for a few weeks now in that bench role.
I'm seriously surprised how he has impacted our play...in a positive way.

Hats off to him and I can't believe I'm saying this but he adds to our team and I don't think anyone else is as versatile.

I'd have no problem if they decided to hold onto him, but that price tag burns for a benchie.
I'm with a few others who would like to see him get a run at 7. He could at least match Brooks irrelevance.
He should have no problem finding another club if we flick him. Just gotta take a pay cut.
Back to the point though. I was wrong, he has something to offer😊
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Good post TT and credit to you acknowledging your change of heart, many here arent that openminded.

I would love him to cop a pay cut and stay. Out of that batch of poor signings of him, Reynolds, Packer, Mbye has never shirked effort and even though obviously being shoved around to find a spot, always seems to put ego on the back burner and get on with it. He is proving his worth (a long way short of his pay cheque) to the club.

Dont agree with him at 7 though. Despite the hate here, Brooks is our best 7.
 
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@jedi_tiger said in [Mbye](/post/1340642) said:
Mmbye is great in the lock ball playing role

Question is ... should he start in the 13?
A lot have pointed out Twal and Tomou shouldn’t be on together.
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Its a no for me. I havent looked at stats, but I am very concerned how many opposition trys are scored through our middle. I cant put my finger on why, Id say its fatigue and poor poisitoning but IMO the last thing we need, particularly early, is another small body in the middle.
 
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Mbye](/post/1340656) said:
I'm convinced now he's not a fullback, centre or hooker. Can fill there if desperate but he's a half. Got the dogs to a grand final at 7 didn't he? Plays well as a bench lock with new rules but I can't remember too well how he played when at 7 for the dogs. Does anyone recall why he was moved from 7
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Because he was crap at 7 at the dogs. IMO he is a fullback but we have a better one. Bench then lock if no one else goes down is his role in this team.
 
I actually feel for Mbye.
At center he looked the goods but we grabbed BJ
He trained all pre season at fullback with a few external judges saying he looked brilliant and we grabbed Laurie 4 weeks before the season started

He is a mr fix it type player which every squad needs but the issue from us fans is what he earns. If he wasn’t appointed captain & was on $300k most fans would be fine with him. He does add value.
 
Played well last night against the Bunnies in a roaming lock role off the bench. When teams have insane rush defence like the Bunnies, you need a third playmaker to create more space for your 6 and 7. Before he came on, there was little to no time for our playmakers to do anything. Once he was on, there seemed to be more space. We have seen he can defend in the middle from his time at hooker.

I hope Madge continues with him in this role. Could be a game changer for us.
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1340918) said:
Played well last night against the Bunnies in a roaming lock role off the bench. When teams have insane rush defence like the Bunnies, you need a third playmaker to create more space for your 6 and 7. Before he came on, there was little to no time for our playmakers to do anything. Once he was on, there seemed to be more space. We have seen he can defend in the middle from his time at hooker.

I hope Madge continues with him in this role. Could be a game changer for us.
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Yeah was better last night. The whole team was and needed to be.
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1340918) said:
Played well last night against the Bunnies in a roaming lock role off the bench. When teams have insane rush defence like the Bunnies, you need a third playmaker to create more space for your 6 and 7. Before he came on, there was little to no time for our playmakers to do anything. Once he was on, there seemed to be more space. We have seen he can defend in the middle from his time at hooker.

I hope Madge continues with him in this role. Could be a game changer for us.
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He changed the game in that role against the eels aswell. Mbye is starting to grow on me again.
 
Madge is now moving Doueihi from 6 to Center with Mbye moving to 6 to partner with Brooks.

A very strange move as many would agree Doueihi has been one of our best on field.

At first I was dead set against it. Doueihi was in form, why move him.

Yet I see the pro's:
Mbye Passes, a lot. Getting the Ball out a lot more.
He has speed.
He has energy.

The cons:
Mbye tends to speedhump in defense. Getting in a good positpion and not stopping rhe player. . Maybe a good reason to not put him at Center or Fullback.

Mbye does not direct a side. Passes a lot and follows the side.

Mbye rarely runs. IMHO a ball running 5/8 is good to have.

I see good pros with Doueihi at center. Can pass. Can Run. Can defend and were leaking tries. Moving Doueihi to center makes him the one who scores or the one to pass to score.

Still dont know about this change...
 
I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it 🤔
 
@crazycat said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359979) said:
Madge is now moving Doueihi from 6 to Center with Mbye moving to 6 to partner with Brooks.

A very strange move as many would agree Doueihi has been one of our best on field.

At first I was dead set against it. Doueihi was in form, why move him.

Yet I see the pro's:
Mbye Passes, a lot. Getting the Ball out a lot more.
He has speed.
He has energy.

The cons:
Mbye tends to speedhump in defense. Getting in a good positpion and not stopping rhe player. . Maybe a good reason to not put him at Center or Fullback.

Mbye does not direct a side. Passes a lot and follows the side.

Mbye rarely runs. IMHO a ball running 5/8 is good to have.

I see good pros with Doueihi at center. Can pass. Can Run. Can defend and were leaking tries. Moving Doueihi to center makes him the one who scores or the one to pass to score.

Still dont know about this change...
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Mbye rarely runs, while Doueihi rarely passes. And therefore our wingers rarely score.
 
@gnr4life said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359995) said:
I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it 🤔
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Scratching at straws but could it be an audition for Mbye to squeeze more dollars out of his new suitors?
 
Magic round our two highest paid players in the middle leading the way - that's how the cap should work. Let them carry the burden on the big stage in their preferred position and if they don't then it just won't be the coach who shoulders the blame. They are our senior players they are beyond learning any thing in reserve grade - suck it up fellas and earn your keep and own your game for once.
 
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