liltiger
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bigsiro is this just based on your own personal opinion or on some inside info. If its based on some inside info please tell.
New coach.. Who should we target?
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bigsiro is this just based on your own personal opinion or on some inside info. If its based on some inside info please tell.
HE is regarded as rugby league’s most successful coach, having won more premierships, more finals and more games than anyone in the code’s history – but Wayne Bennett’s Midas touch has deserted him in Newcastle.
Of the eight men who have coached the Knights since their inception in 1988, statistics suggest nobody has a worse win-loss record than the 64-year-old Queenslander.
Sunday’s 32-10 thumping from Penrith, which left the Knights languishing in second-last position with two wins after nine rounds, was Bennett’s 60th game at the helm since he arrived in Newcastle before the 2012 season.
Of those 60 games, the Knights have won 26, lost 33 and drawn one.
That gives Bennett a winning strike rate of 43.3 per cent and a losing ratio of 55.0 per cent.
Bennett’s losing percentage is the highest of any Knights coach, surpassing that of the much-maligned Brian Smith (54.4 per cent).
Only foundation Newcastle mentor Allan McMahon (40.7 per cent) has a lower winning strike rate than Bennett.
But McMahon’s no-frills team featured in six drawn games between 1988 and 1991, in the era before golden-point extra time, compared with a lone draw for Bennett.
Because of that, even though Bennett boasts a higher winning percentage than McMahon (43.3 to 40.7 per cent), McMahon lost fewer games on average (51.8 to 55.0 per cent).
If you include points gained from draws in the equation, McMahon’s success rate (44.4 per cent) shades that of Bennett (44.2 per cent).
Those numbers are a far cry from Bennett’s career record when he signed for Newcastle, after winning seven premierships at Brisbane (1992, 1993, 1997, 1998, 2000 and 2006) and St George Illawarra (2010).
At that stage, he had a winning strike rate of 64 per cent from 633 games, more than 20 per cent better than his subsequent record at the Knights.
His overall career strike rate has dipped slightly since joining Newcastle to 61.9 per cent from 693 games.
Bennett, of course, steered the Knights to two playoff wins last season – their first success in the post-season since 2006.
Of the eight men who have coached the Knights since their inception in 1988, statistics suggest nobody has a worse win-loss record than the 64-year-old Queenslander.
Sunday’s 32-10 thumping from Penrith, which left the Knights languishing in second-last position with two wins after nine rounds, was Bennett’s 60th game at the helm since he arrived in Newcastle before the 2012 season.
Of those 60 games, the Knights have won 26, lost 33 and drawn one.
That gives Bennett a winning strike rate of 43.3 per cent and a losing ratio of 55.0 per cent.
Bennett’s losing percentage is the highest of any Knights coach, surpassing that of the much-maligned Brian Smith (54.4 per cent).
Only foundation Newcastle mentor Allan McMahon (40.7 per cent) has a lower winning strike rate than Bennett.
But McMahon’s no-frills team featured in six drawn games between 1988 and 1991, in the era before golden-point extra time, compared with a lone draw for Bennett.
Because of that, even though Bennett boasts a higher winning percentage than McMahon (43.3 to 40.7 per cent), McMahon lost fewer games on average (51.8 to 55.0 per cent).
If you include points gained from draws in the equation, McMahon’s success rate (44.4 per cent) shades that of Bennett (44.2 per cent).
Those numbers are a far cry from Bennett’s career record when he signed for Newcastle, after winning seven premierships at Brisbane (1992, 1993, 1997, 1998, 2000 and 2006) and St George Illawarra (2010).
At that stage, he had a winning strike rate of 64 per cent from 633 games, more than 20 per cent better than his subsequent record at the Knights.
His overall career strike rate has dipped slightly since joining Newcastle to 61.9 per cent from 693 games.
Bennett, of course, steered the Knights to two playoff wins last season – their first success in the post-season since 2006.
Nucky_Thompson
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Didn't he then go to saints and win a premiership. ?
The_Patriot
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Bennett will not come out and say he wants to coach the Tigers while the Tigers still have a coach on the books for 2019.
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This is a guy who backed out of a Roosters contract because Politis leaked it to the media.
The denial means nothing to me. This is all ducks and drakes as 3 clubs try to sort this out.
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This is a guy who backed out of a Roosters contract because Politis leaked it to the media.
The denial means nothing to me. This is all ducks and drakes as 3 clubs try to sort this out.
kingbrooks
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Can't see any logic to WB wanting to coach at us.
Bennett has 2-3 years max left coaching and we are probably a 2-3 year job to get competitive a best. A coach who takes us will want the long term possibility of taking over. Bennett will want to go out on a high and coach a good club.
Bennett has 2-3 years max left coaching and we are probably a 2-3 year job to get competitive a best. A coach who takes us will want the long term possibility of taking over. Bennett will want to go out on a high and coach a good club.
liltiger
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I agree to a certain point. Maybe if within a 2 - 3 year period Bennett could achieve something with our guy's there would be no question that he was the best coach in the history of the game. Maybe that might be a motivating factor for him to come across. After everything he has already achieved it would have to puerly be for the challenge. I can't imagine he need's the money.
GNR4LIFE
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You are assuming he has options. He is not reveered the way he was a decade ago. A lot of good coaches around.
momo_amp_medo
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momo_amp_medo
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Yep it’s all smoke and mirrors and it’s no good jumping onto any conclusions as most things you read or are being told is just speculation by the media.
innsaneink
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What I've been saying all along…. Dont buy into the NRL media machine, it's a massive business in its own right but half the time they're guessing and are wrong.
It generates clicks, ratings etc
It's hard not to get excited by it tho when words like Wayne Bennett + Wests Tigers are mentioned in the same sentence
innsaneink
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He couldn't do any worse than Cleary and more-so it's what he can bring with him…hopefully a few young bucks & The corporate$ would be lining up knowing the exposure he'd bring
bigsiro
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Ahh I was responding to someone else's earlier post where they were talking about waiting out the "Cleary saga".
I just meant that Cleary leaving the Tigers is a forgone conclusion. I think we have all largely moved past that question.
Hence that "saga" is over per se…..
The_Patriot
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No that's not what I'm really saying. I'm saying this is happening as reported it's just that these denials are all part of the game they are playing.
The media are all over this story because it has legs. Anyone denying that or trying to blame the media for inventing things at this late stage is going to end up with more egg on their faces.
momo_amp_medo
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Not denying there is a story in there somewhere. Just tell me which version do you jump on with any confidence. People are writing it and hoping for the best.
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100%.
If this indeed does have legs it is hard to not get excited. The pull he would have with players would be phenomenal. A proven winning coach that as you say corporates would get behind, you would think would also have some pull with "independent" potential third party sponsors. As I said previously he's lost his gloss in the last few years but he's still up there as one of the top coaches.
Almost makes to me want the whole Ivan thing to be true.
