Not all black and white: Wests fans spitting feathers

[Balmain_Bug]

I wonder if you guys realize how much money a sleeve sponsorship is worth

The company I work with used to be a sleeve sponsor on an NRL side (one at the time that wasn't successful on the field ) and this is going back about 8 years

The State Manager over a lot of alcohol admitted the amount and I was gobsmacked

That was until he told me how much another bigger more successful team was worth for a sleeve 😱pen_mouth:

Almost triple that figure for the team we did sponsor

Dont put the Magpie Logo on the sleeve, put it on top of the shoulder.

 

[happy_tiger]

I wonder if you guys realize how much money a sleeve sponsorship is worth

The company I work with used to be a sleeve sponsor on an NRL side (one at the time that wasn't successful on the field ) and this is going back about 8 years

The State Manager over a lot of alcohol admitted the amount and I was gobsmacked

That was until he told me how much another bigger more successful team was worth for a sleeve 😱pen_mouth:

Almost triple that figure for the team we did sponsor

Dont put the Magpie Logo on the sleeve, put it on top of the shoulder.

Where exactly on the shoulder Bug Front ,Top or back

 

[Balmain_Bug]

I wonder if you guys realize how much money a sleeve sponsorship is worth

The company I work with used to be a sleeve sponsor on an NRL side (one at the time that wasn't successful on the field ) and this is going back about 8 years

The State Manager over a lot of alcohol admitted the amount and I was gobsmacked

That was until he told me how much another bigger more successful team was worth for a sleeve 😱pen_mouth:

Almost triple that figure for the team we did sponsor

Dont put the Magpie Logo on the sleeve, put it on top of the shoulder.

Where exactly on the shoulder Bug Front ,Top or back

Top of the shoulder in line with the crease. It would look great, and its very easy to do, it is a good distance away from the sponsor and everyone would be happy.

 

[happy_tiger]

Bug it would be tiny Why wouldn't you want a triple the size Magpie on the socks that would get just as much vision if not more than something you could barely see

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Bug it would be tiny Why wouldn't you want a triple the size Magpie on the socks that would get just as much vision if not more than something you could barely see

The 2000 to 2007 Magpie was a good size. It would look great on the shoulder. Shoulder exposure is better than sleeve exposure in my opinion as when players get tackled on the ground it is fully exposed on TV at length.

Socks are rarely exposed close up on TV and are not in the JV agreement anyway.

 

[happy_tiger]

Bug it would be tiny Why wouldn't you want a triple the size Magpie on the socks that would get just as much vision if not more than something you could barely see

The 2000 to 2007 Magpie was a good size. It would look great on the shoulder. Shoulder exposure is better than sleeve exposure in my opinion as when players get tackled on the ground it is fully exposed on TV at length.

Socks are rarely exposed close up on TV and are not in the JV agreement anyway.

And this is where the flexibility comes in

If Wests said we would be prepared to give the shoulder up for the socks i reckon the tigers would jump at it

Why does the Magpies need sleeve or shoulders recognition anyway I can't understand what the Magpies get out of it at NRL level ?? Its not Wests or Balmain at the NRL level its the Wests Tigers

You might even find that the Tigers might cough up some money for Wests if they give up the sleeve or shoulder And before you say "but thats not in the JV contract " Anything is open for discussion or change

 

[Balmain_Bug]

The socks 'exposure' just is not the same as a jumper.

the Wests Group is 50% owner. They are entitled to be on the jumper as per the agreement as they are entitled to get their fair share of NRL players. (Which they do not).

 

[Swordy]

This oversight is exactly that, an honest error.

Management have confirmed that the magpie will appear in all premiership games in the future.

This is now a non issue. It has been correctly addressed.

Can that be the end of the divisive stuff now?

PS - I have a 'training jersey' up on the wall from 5 or 6 years ago. I checked it just out of curiosity and there was no magpie. It was never used as a playing strip however. Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it …....
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[Tiger_Watto]

I wonder if you guys realize how much money a sleeve sponsorship is worth

The company I work with used to be a sleeve sponsor on an NRL side (one at the time that wasn't successful on the field ) and this is going back about 8 years

The State Manager over a lot of alcohol admitted the amount and I was gobsmacked

That was until he told me how much another bigger more successful team was worth for a sleeve 😱pen_mouth:

Almost triple that figure for the team we did sponsor

Dont put the Magpie Logo on the sleeve, put it on top of the shoulder.

But that's not in the supposed constitution… You are claiming it should be there as per the constitution, but then state it should be moved somewhere else.

You use rules and responsibilities to scrutinize Humphries, but apply your own wants when you simply don't like something and think it should be changed.

As per Humphries quote, it will be on the sleeve.

 

[Cysquatch]

(Just let me say im not one for forgetting our roots and were we came from, im proud of what our club was built on this is just my thoughts at present)

After reading this thread which seems to be similar in sentiment to many others, there is part of me that believes that old maggies supporters (which I don't say derogatorily) or supporters who feel the wests side is not represented enough will never be happy.

If its not the magpie on the sleeve its the amount of black or white or orange on our jerseys or merchandise or the lack of support for the macarthur region or the amount of wests juniors playing for wests or the conspiracy from our CEO to eradicate wests magpies from existence ect, ect.

If you really want to be 50/50 and equal to both sides of the merger there should be a magpie on one sleeve and a balmain tiger on the other, coz, i acknowledge wests lost alot out of the merger but so did balmain, including THEIR identity.

Wests and balmain lost alot, yes. But look what we have now gained. After all the heartbreak of seeing our old teams having to merge and the very hard early years of the WT look at what we have now-a respected, professional and competitive team to call ours. Something old wests and balmain supporters haven't seen for a long time.

On the brink of our most promising season ever, we have so much to look forward and be excited about I can't believe another subject like this has come up to leave a sour taste in all supporters mouths.

Up the mighty WT
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[Spartan117]

Again I honestly ask, Doesnt anyone care that you have the name Wests?

The magpie should be on the Jersey, I like it but surely thats gotto appease some people

 

[wtfl1981]

We are ALL here as passionate WT supporters.. Some feel even more passionate about their original club then others - once again that alignment does not hinder WT in anyway.. Magpies aligned fans despite mixed opinions are more 'vocal' because externally, WT (from a visual and geographic perspective) are seen as an 'extension of balmain' (humprhies has acknowledged that at wests board meetings) This forum topic is about the magpie on the sleeve. Its been there since day dot. Leave it alone for all regular WT home/away jerseys. Simple as that.
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[Cysquatch]

Maybe so. Also maybe old balmain supporters aren't as vocal because they've accepted the merger, have moved on and don't look at every aspect of the team and pick out where they are 'not represented' enough?
Balmain lost whatever the magpies gained out of the merge and vice versa. If people want to say its slanted to one side or another fair enough i just think its overkill sometimes. I like the magpie on the sleeve but I still say if you really want to get down to acknowledging both pasts, where is the balmain tiger on our jerseys/merch?

Humphries was on the radio this morning and admitted it was a mistake and not intended to offend anyone just that particular trial jersey had that design. I'm pretty certain he also said that there is no actual written document that says it has to be there but more of a accepted agreement at the time of the merge and it's something will always keep as long as he's in charge
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[1_4_chicken_chips]

Some of your best work Bug,IVE STOLEN a quarter chicken and chips name from some guy who rings up some radio station.You embarass yourself on many occasions and this topic is yet again one of those occasions .Western Suburbs were dead until Balmain threw them a lifeline,end of story

 

[Chris]

If bringing up trivial issues on a regular basis keeps your club alive because your directors are clueless how to, then I can see why this dribble is needed. I wish there was an emoticon playing a violin.

 

[Goose]

Guys,

Arent you happy with the name "Wests" ??

What is that meant to mean?

We should be happy you allowed us to call your Balmain Tigers, Wests?

That is an arrogant comment if I have ever heard one.
It is as much Wests team as it is the Tigers.

Tigers are the main logo and brand. We accept that!

We just want two magpies on each of our shoulders where it wont get covered up, just like we have had for the first 10 years. Why is that so hard to understand?

You are just looking for insults….Ive said it many times if you look for sleights you will always find them. The poster was clearly saying their is Wests in the branding.

There should be a magpie on the shoulder.

But for christ sake, it was a trial game that was moved to the new magpie heartland and all you guys are worried about the lack of a Magpie on the ugliest promotional jersey in history.

With any compromise people are more than aware of what they are giving up, but less aware of the sacrafices from the otherside of the venture.

In this case the magpie was missing, but the game was moved to the southwest, what is more important in the scheme of things

 

[cktiger]

Its not the western suburbs logo its a little magpie on its own. Balmain may not be anywhere on the jersey but the tigers brand is very dominant and pretty much eats up the wests brand. A small magpie may be trivial to some WT fans but it means alot to some. Like i said its not a big ask to have the magpie stay where it is in size in location. _**I also dont have a problem with the idea of a full balmain logo and full wests logo on each side if that was decided upon (similar to wt logo on allstars jersey)**_
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If this was done - end of argument!

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

It is being taken to the Wests Tigers board by the Wests Football Club for a "please explain". Humphreys will no doubt be required for an explanation.

The magpie needs to remain somewhere on the jersey. Yes, the history is obviously important, but our largest and most profitable leagues club is branded with the magpie. Wests Tigers must retain that connection.

 

[system]

I have a problem with putting a Balmain logo or a full Wests logo on the jersey.

The Magpie is a tastefull nod to the past which was implemented because the fans lost their mascot and this ties it into the joint venture.

I am willing to buy that this was a simple oversight because I do not believe in the victimisation complex carried by a distinct minority of old Maggies fans, put the Mgpie back at the point of the shoulder and arm seams on the next jersey re-design and the issue is solved

 

[Glennb]

Dont put the Magpie Logo on the sleeve, put it on top of the shoulder.

Where exactly on the shoulder Bug Front ,Top or back

Top of the shoulder in line with the crease. It would look great, and its very easy to do, it is a good distance away from the sponsor and everyone would be happy.

And on the shoulder it would not only represent the Wests Magpies but also nicely represent the Wests "chip" on the shouder as well.
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…....actually just stirring. I dont think its a bad idea. I thought the same when I looked at the pic of how small the maggie has become under the sponsor.