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[BAGNF05]

I believe that is where it becomes problematic, I don't think a players value should be based off the number of games.

In NSWRL you are worth less points for tenure at the same club. The rules could be tweaked but something is required.

 

[Odessa]

I believe that is where it becomes problematic, I don't think a players value should be based off the number of games.

Very true but I don't know how they can stop the club's like the rooster who offered 750k a year to Bronson Xerri when they already have so many top tier players

 

[Chammass]

Players salaries seem to go up 200k a week on this show

 

[FinestTigers]

I worked on a point system a few years ago instead of a salary cap and got it pretty good for sh.ts and giggles

Every player who made there first grade debut was on 3 point and then and worked there way up to ten

Ten was a current origin and Australia player if only origin that year or Australia player was a nine if you are a club junior it's a two point reduction to the club that develops you also

Also if origin or Australia player in the last three years your a 8

And it went on the rating the year you sign your contract so if you sign on as a 5 if you play origin your a 5 to the club that sign you but a nine to the club that wants to sign you


That way the club can pay you what they want but can not go over the points cap

If you had played 50 fi4st grade games you become a 4

So if your unable to make the Aust. Team or Origin, then the players rating can only increase by 1 point after each 2 years (3points from debut ± 1 point aftet each 50games) which means the player will reach the 10 points after 12years.
Is this correct?
Or am i confused?

 

[BAGNF05]

Players salaries seem to go up 200k a week on this show

Braith is taking the piss. If brooks is 1.3 imagine what Munster is worth. Our bean counters probably fall for it.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

I have said a million times over the last 20 years that the salary cap has been rorted and the teams at the bottom of the pile have been disadvantaged by a system that was designed to help them.

As I have always said the NRL is firmly controlled by a few self interested power brokers who have zero interest in the well being of the broader comp.

Mind you our mob and a few others certainly do very little to help themselves

I don’t think the salary cap was designed to help the bottom of the pile teams. It was designed to stop clubs going broke.

 

[BAGNF05]

I don’t think the salary cap was designed to help the bottom of the pile teams. It was designed to stop clubs going broke.

NRL website claims it is also about talent equalisation.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

NRL website claims it is also about talent equalisation.

I’d like them to back that claim up

 

[BAGNF05]

I’d like them to back that claim up

They try to. By saying every club except us has made finals since 2014 and 9 clubs have played GF’s.

Conveniently don’t mention the Rortsters or the Storms records.

 

[tiger_one]

They try to. By saying every club except us has made finals since 2014 and 9 clubs have played GF’s.

Conveniently don’t mention the Rortsters or the Storms records.

Selective justifications win every time.

 

[Strongee]

Tonight Buzz pitched for a promotion/relegation system for NRL and rightly so, Kent rubbished his idea and instead offered a draft or tighter policing of the salary cap. I.e he said some clubs are clearly cheating.

This is something WT need to pick up and run with full steam.

Instead of holding wanky networking breakfasts our so called powerbrokers should be asking tough questions of the league. How can one NRL team have 7-8 origin players and some clubs have NONE. And a supposed war chest but no opportunity to sign one. Doesn’t pass the bullshit test/pub test whatever you call it.

I will continue to give our “leaders” all the crap they deserve while they just bend over and cop it. They get a hell of a lot wrong at WT but just copping being treated like junk is the worst.

Same goes for when guys like Matto and Aloiai and even LL are just allowed to walk away. Show some strength for once.

This is something that front office could clearly do to help the football department i.e. don’t bother telling me front office aren’t responsible for results!

Sorry but the New York knicks have been shit for years with no all stars. Have had several times where they’ve had half thier cap space spare to sign over the hill players not worth the minimum for hundreds of millions of dollars . Does that sound familiar ?
That’s with a draft as well . Shit clubs do shit club things . Doesn’t matter what league your in .
For reference as well . Newcastle in the premier league were for many years perennially the 5th-6th team .
Got new owners and have been close to diabolical getting relegated and promotion to mid table and what not . Now they have Saudi money and better staff and there’s talk of them being the new Man City.
This was the same for Los Angeles Clippers , until they got a front office with brains and money .
My point is we need a circuit breaker , because something in this club screams mediocrity. And has for a very long time .

 

[gallagher]

Sorry but the New York knicks have been shit for years with no all stars. Have had several times where they’ve had half thier cap space spare to sign over the hill players not worth the minimum for hundreds of millions of dollars . Does that sound familiar ?
That’s with a draft as well . Shit clubs do shit club things . Doesn’t matter what league your in .
For reference as well . Newcastle in the premier league were for many years perennially the 5th-6th team .
Got new owners and have been close to diabolical getting relegated and promotion to mid table and what not . Now they have Saudi money and better staff and there’s talk of them being the new Man City.
This was the same for Los Angeles Clippers , until they got a front office with brains and money .
My point is we need a circuit breaker , because something in this club screams mediocrity. And has for a very long time .

Trouble is they don't even recognise they have a problem.

 

[coivtny]

Sorry but the New York knicks have been shit for years with no all stars. Have had several times where they’ve had half thier cap space spare to sign over the hill players not worth the minimum for hundreds of millions of dollars . Does that sound familiar ?
That’s with a draft as well . Shit clubs do shit club things . Doesn’t matter what league your in .
For reference as well . Newcastle in the premier league were for many years perennially the 5th-6th team .
Got new owners and have been close to diabolical getting relegated and promotion to mid table and what not . Now they have Saudi money and better staff and there’s talk of them being the new Man City.
This was the same for Los Angeles Clippers , until they got a front office with brains and money .
My point is we need a circuit breaker , because something in this club screams mediocrity. And has for a very long time .

Good post. Draft is not the be all and end all. It could help but, as you say, a good front office would be nice.

 

[TrueTiger]

Good post. Draft is not the be all and end all. It could help but, as you say, a good front office would be nice.

If only people would realise that a very good front office is what makes a business successful....

 

[Magpie_Magic]

It would be good if clubs could only spend a fraction of their cap. Why should a team on the bottom pay its players as much as those on the top.

So maybe a portion of the cap should be for weely bonuses for all clubs so teams on the bottom would have to pay less and have a carry over for the year after.

That'll get some hunger into the boys.

 

[Odessa]

So if your unable to make the Aust. Team or Origin, then the players rating can only increase by 1 point after each 2 years (3points from debut ± 1 point aftet each 50games) which means the player will reach the 10 points after 12years.
Is this correct?
Or am i confused?

There was alot more to it but that was just some bits of it also after 70 and 100 games 120 games you4 points change

 

[Tiger Tragic]

If only people would realise that a very good front office is what makes a business successful....

On it's own it's not enough, but a good front office is an important start. And WT front office (Chair, CEO, Board) is a basket case. Hence, where we find ourselves, yet again.

 

[tigeress]

Tonight Buzz pitched for a promotion/relegation system for NRL and rightly so, Kent rubbished his idea and instead offered a draft or tighter policing of the salary cap. I.e he said some clubs are clearly cheating.

This is something WT need to pick up and run with full steam.

Instead of holding wanky networking breakfasts our so called powerbrokers should be asking tough questions of the league. How can one NRL team have 7-8 origin players and some clubs have NONE. And a supposed war chest but no opportunity to sign one. Doesn’t pass the bullshit test/pub test whatever you call it.

I will continue to give our “leaders” all the crap they deserve while they just bend over and cop it. They get a hell of a lot wrong at WT but just copping being treated like junk is the worst.

Same goes for when guys like Matto and Aloiai and even LL are just allowed to walk away. Show some strength for once.

This is something that front office could clearly do to help the football department i.e. don’t bother telling me front office aren’t responsible for results!

Good on you mate !

 

[tig_prmz]

There will never be a relegation system. Even the poorest of teams draw pretty good ratings on TV. You take those teams out of NRL and the ratings will plummet.

Not sure about draft system either: can't imagine top juniors being forced to play for crappy teams.

 

[Buttface]

Tonight Buzz pitched for a promotion/relegation system for NRL and rightly so, Kent rubbished his idea and instead offered a draft or tighter policing of the salary cap. I.e he said some clubs are clearly cheating.

This is something WT need to pick up and run with full steam.

Instead of holding wanky networking breakfasts our so called powerbrokers should be asking tough questions of the league. How can one NRL team have 7-8 origin players and some clubs have NONE. And a supposed war chest but no opportunity to sign one. Doesn’t pass the bullshit test/pub test whatever you call it.

I will continue to give our “leaders” all the crap they deserve while they just bend over and cop it. They get a hell of a lot wrong at WT but just copping being treated like junk is the worst.

Same goes for when guys like Matto and Aloiai and even LL are just allowed to walk away. Show some strength for once.

This is something that front office could clearly do to help the football department i.e. don’t bother telling me front office aren’t responsible for results!

Maybe if catto was made to sit out a year his mate lawny would not have pulled the same crap.