NRL announces rule changes

@cochise said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280717) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280515) said:
Every year they always review the rules, trying to make the game more marketable. I wish they'd focus on consistency between referees on a week to week basis and even in calls made by the same referee. For me there's way too much subjectivity in a the decision made within a game, and barely any focus on the consistency. This is why decisions can appear so skewed, and thoughts of bias in the referee decisions are brought up.

Hopefully employing badger can help us get our head around these rules, and use them to our advantage.

To be honest, consistency across referees and games is over rated. I would much prefer refs to officiate with their own style and personality instead of trying to be identical and meet KPI's. When I played you would know what ref you had and knew some refs were harder on being offside than others, for example and adjust your game to suit.

Refs are human with different traits and personalities, some are more suited to being more authoritarian while others would be more suited to being game managers and letting the game flow. Trying to make them all the same is part of the reason officiating is at such a low.

Disagree - you are offside or you are not, pass forward or you don't.....Simple.

What are the lines people doing? If you can't officiate the rules, see ya! .....Simple.

I don't want refs expressing their individuality - that is not what they are there for.
 
The consistent offside on the goal line could be easily fixed by the sin bin..2 in the same set of 6 mandatory sin bin and continue 1 each other time there after.5 mins will do rather than 10. no refs discretion no questions asked ...everyone knows where they stand..

Watch the coaches soon advise their players not to do it
 
@hobbo1 said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280741) said:
@cochise said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280738) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280735) said:
@cochise said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280733) said:
@WT2K said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280731) said:
Mbye says only guy in our squad that could kick the 40m+ field goal is Doueihi

I loved the 50m+ one Benji kicked right on halftime at Campbelltown. He struck it so well. Best part was my wife got so excited she fell of her seat lol.

That was epic ...
He hardly took a swing .

https://youtu.be/WmTercbR_is

The scary thing was Gould called it before it happens ?

Which I’m sure everyone heard about for hours on end after it happened.
 
@Russell said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280834) said:
@cochise said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280717) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280515) said:
Every year they always review the rules, trying to make the game more marketable. I wish they'd focus on consistency between referees on a week to week basis and even in calls made by the same referee. For me there's way too much subjectivity in a the decision made within a game, and barely any focus on the consistency. This is why decisions can appear so skewed, and thoughts of bias in the referee decisions are brought up.

Hopefully employing badger can help us get our head around these rules, and use them to our advantage.

To be honest, consistency across referees and games is over rated. I would much prefer refs to officiate with their own style and personality instead of trying to be identical and meet KPI's. When I played you would know what ref you had and knew some refs were harder on being offside than others, for example and adjust your game to suit.

Refs are human with different traits and personalities, some are more suited to being more authoritarian while others would be more suited to being game managers and letting the game flow. Trying to make them all the same is part of the reason officiating is at such a low.

Disagree - you are offside or you are not, pass forward or you don't.....Simple.

What are the lines people doing? If you can't officiate the rules, see ya! .....Simple.

I don't want refs expressing their individuality - that is not what they are there for.

It is not about expressing their individuality, it is about using their strengths and personality traits to Ref the game. Not everyone interacts in the same way, forcing refs to interacting and officiate in a certain way is what is causing the issues we have now.
 
@formerguest said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280664) said:
@diedpretty said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280589) said:
@innsaneink said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280545) said:
@Pbulk said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280521) said:
**injured players will be interchanged if a trainer ask for play to be stopped;**

This is a great decision.

Really don't think it's fair.... Genuine cases shouldn't lose and interchange

They will just get around it by calling every player down as a HIA. Unless you are now going to lose an interchange for HIAs as well.

Yeah, likely to be plenty of players returning with ankle and knee strapping from their HIA experiences.
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Do wr want to speed the game up anymore .....some of these rules reek of touch football .....penalize sides for incorrect play the balls ..use the rules of the game
 
@jirskyr said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280814) said:
@cleanskin said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280785) said:
We will end up Rugby union with these 2 point long field goals.
Glad Benji retired before he could have sprayed them wide all year.

I agree with @rustycage above, it will rarely be used. The 20/40 rule in 2020 - was it used ever? I never saw it executed. Same as touch-finder punts from 20m restarts - teams just aren't willing to risk it.

Imagine setting for a 2-pt FG from 41m down by 2? Surely you go for a try if you can. Or can you imagine a team down by 1-point going for a 2-point FG if they still have tackles up their sleeve? Surely they'd still move closer to the posts. I reckon there would be lucky to be more than 1 successful 40m FG per season.

Personally I reckon if the strategy is very rarely to be used, you shouldn't have a rule for it. 20/40s would only ever be a hail-mary, same with 2 point FGs. And we'd all have to remember that the option exists and look up the rule book if, on rare occasion, it's attempted.

I still don't know why we have 40/20s, why reward a team for putting the ball in touch? Previously I can understand it was attempting to keep the ball in play, but with tap restarts now, that's not an issue any more. Why should you award a team that can only get the ball to their own 40m before rocketing a kick at touch? But if you advance the ball to 60m line you have no similar option except trying to get it in the in-goal from 40m out.

yeah i agree ...you might kick 3 from 10 from 40 plus out
 
@happy_tiger said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281151) said:
@jirskyr said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280814) said:
@cleanskin said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1280785) said:
We will end up Rugby union with these 2 point long field goals.
Glad Benji retired before he could have sprayed them wide all year.

I agree with @rustycage above, it will rarely be used. The 20/40 rule in 2020 - was it used ever? I never saw it executed. Same as touch-finder punts from 20m restarts - teams just aren't willing to risk it.

Imagine setting for a 2-pt FG from 41m down by 2? Surely you go for a try if you can. Or can you imagine a team down by 1-point going for a 2-point FG if they still have tackles up their sleeve? Surely they'd still move closer to the posts. I reckon there would be lucky to be more than 1 successful 40m FG per season.

Personally I reckon if the strategy is very rarely to be used, you shouldn't have a rule for it. 20/40s would only ever be a hail-mary, same with 2 point FGs. And we'd all have to remember that the option exists and look up the rule book if, on rare occasion, it's attempted.

I still don't know why we have 40/20s, why reward a team for putting the ball in touch? Previously I can understand it was attempting to keep the ball in play, but with tap restarts now, that's not an issue any more. Why should you award a team that can only get the ball to their own 40m before rocketing a kick at touch? But if you advance the ball to 60m line you have no similar option except trying to get it in the in-goal from 40m out.

yeah i agree ...you might kick 3 from 10 from 40 plus out

I think you will see some taken right on half-time,
 
@happy_tiger said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281146) said:
Do wr want to speed the game up anymore .....some of these rules reek of touch football .....penalize sides for incorrect play the balls ..use the rules of the game

This infatuation with constantly speeding up the game is just ridiculous. I to don't understand why referees can't just enforce the existing rules. Incorrect Play the ball - penalty. Scrum infringement - penalty. Offside - penalty. Honestly, it's really not that hard. It's a simple game but we try to confuse the hell out of it with grey areas and bunkers and hypothesis of what might have happened if......
 
I have been critical of the 20/40 from the get go, but this new 2 point FG is a different animal.
Apparently nobody was asking for this new rule and coaches reckon it won’t figure in their plans. So if the 2 point FG has suddenly emerged from left field you would have to wonder why we need it in the game?
Maybe it’s a tactic to lure AFL fans? If this is the case we can expect another rule change or two on any hurdles such as the 7 tackle set. We’ve seen some games won and lost by long range FGs. I think Benji’s stock price just had a bump?
 
@rustycage said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281526) said:
@happy_tiger said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281146) said:
Do wr want to speed the game up anymore .....some of these rules reek of touch football .....penalize sides for incorrect play the balls ..use the rules of the game

This infatuation with constantly speeding up the game is just ridiculous. I to don't understand why referees can't just enforce the existing rules. Incorrect Play the ball - penalty. Scrum infringement - penalty. Offside - penalty. Honestly, it's really not that hard. It's a simple game but we try to confuse the hell out of it with grey areas and bunkers and hypothesis of what might have happened if......

which always leads to my question of why....is it to control results
 
@happy_tiger said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281528) said:
@rustycage said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281526) said:
@happy_tiger said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281146) said:
Do wr want to speed the game up anymore .....some of these rules reek of touch football .....penalize sides for incorrect play the balls ..use the rules of the game

This infatuation with constantly speeding up the game is just ridiculous. I to don't understand why referees can't just enforce the existing rules. Incorrect Play the ball - penalty. Scrum infringement - penalty. Offside - penalty. Honestly, it's really not that hard. It's a simple game but we try to confuse the hell out of it with grey areas and bunkers and hypothesis of what might have happened if......

which always leads to my question of why....is it to control results

Joey says it's the flow apparently. Personally, I've seen many games that flowed really well and both teams had scored well under 20 points each.
 
Is it really a good thing to have all these "6 agains" especially when no one really knows what they were for, getting defending teams hopelessly on the back foot, giving attacking teams incredible runs of possession that result in blow out scores?

Exciting at times, but is it good for the game in the longer term?
 
@hank37w said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281540) said:
Is it really a good thing to have all these "6 agains" especially when no one really knows what they were for, getting defending teams hopelessly on the back foot, giving attacking teams incredible runs of possession that result in blow out scores?

Exciting at times, but is it good for the game in the longer term?

No it's not better at all. The result is the game flows better for one team. Then, when the ref decides to even things up, the flow switches to the other team and the big second half comeback takes place.
 
@hank37w said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281540) said:
Is it really a good thing to have all these "6 agains" especially when no one really knows what they were for, getting defending teams hopelessly on the back foot, giving attacking teams incredible runs of possession that result in blow out scores?

Exciting at times, but is it good for the game in the longer term?



It is far from good as the refs can and do control which team gets all the possession and it dosent show in the penalty count.Refereeing standards are at rock bottom at the moment and giving them more power to get the favoured clubs a win is fraught with danger as rules are not applied equally to all teams
 
Yeah, they've changed the rules but nothing really changes. Now the refs just even up the penalties or 6 again count towards the end of the game when it's virtually all over anyway.
 
@hank37w said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281560) said:
Yeah, they've changed the rules but nothing really changes. Now the refs just even up the penalties or 6 again count towards the end of the game when it's virtually all over anyway.

Agree, we are seeing more coaches and players talking about getting a fast start. This could be code for being perfect, giving the ref no reason to swing momentum to the opposition. Never thought I would ever think that to be honest, but it becomes more obvious when your team beats a better side.
 
@TheDaBoss said in [NRL announces rule changes](/post/1281581) said:
More chance of seeing this 40m field goal than a 20 40 imo

I reckon it’s got legs. Admittedly, they have been a rarity but will now be double the value on the scoreboard. There has been times in tight games when praying to the football gods could not produce a penalty from the 40, now this new rule allows a team to take it. You get a sharpshooter in a tight defensive game and your side could be up 10-0 at the break 😂
 
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