NRL bosses call on News to drop breakaway threat

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I personally don't think they could do it right if there is a next time, however, given the IC coming in and how the game has greatly improved since split, I don't think it's necessary for someone to come in to try to set up a rival comp.

I think another split would do far more damage than the first.
 
I didnt want to get into this discussion but if there is ever another split i think it will be the end for a lot of fans & the t.v rights wont be worth a zac.
 
Yeah Super League was awesome. :crazy
Because of them there is no more North Sydney Bears, Western Suburbs Magpies, Balmain Tigers in first grade, and if they had their way South Sydney Rabbitohs aswell. We still don't have a Perth team or a second Brisbane team which the ARL already had. Brisbane Broncos were greedy and wanted the whole of South East QLD to themselves.
 
well, your stating your unhappy that Norths and Souths ended out in the cold as a result of the formation of the NRL and you appear to blame News Ltd. So firstly, I'm wondering why you care about Norths and Souths…

Did you regularly travel to watch Norths and Souths home games?
 
@alien said:
Yeah Super League was awesome. :crazy
Because of them there is no more North Sydney Bears, Western Suburbs Magpies, Balmain Tigers in first grade, and if they had their way South Sydney Rabbitohs aswell. We still don't have a Perth team or a second Brisbane team which the ARL already had. Brisbane Broncos were greedy and wanted the whole of South East QLD to themselves.

Super League was founded as a direct result of the Broncos not being able to stand over the then NSWRL who despite being run at that time by Ken Arthurson and John Quayle was doing a very credible job.
I read Arkos book and one of his biggest regrets was not making the newcomers pay a franchise fee, at least when the hypocrites signed with Super Greed then the ARL as it evolved to would have had a fighting fund.
I can't believe that after all this time the organisation that gave the GayFL such a head start could still seriously bring us back to the dark old days of the mid 90's.
Players are mercenaries so will go to who ever pays the highest $$$ but in the case of 1997 the ARL had the better product despite losing all the fringe players who provided depth, the only game from 1997 that anyone ever talks about is the ARL Grand Final with Newcastle pulling off the upset.
Manly were the dominant team in 1995 & 1996 and only had a slightly weakened roster and were expected to easily win the decider and if the top 4 teams, two from the ARL & SL had gone head to head in a Super Bowl scenario I'm of the opinion that it still would have been the ARL teams slogging it out.
It's emotional when you drag up old wounds but when News Ltd still has a clause that could see them try and control the game again at their whim then it's just wrong, Rupert you turn coat, get the @#$% away from our game and remember it's still A sport in my eyes and not about $$$$.
You and your son broke so many promises, why is now GayFL the major sport when in the mid 90's was imploding and what has happened about making RL players household names in outer Mongolia!.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
Maybe they could do it right next time? At the end of the day, if the NRL can not come to terms with Fox on Broadcast Rights, News will need to look at a new format to sell Pay TV subscriptions…

Either way, I'd be more worried about the QRL than News Ltd...

Hey Watto Can you please explain further what you mean by that comment
Maybe I'm having a blonde moment but I can't see why you would be worried by QRL ??
 
@Tiger Watto said:
well, your stating your unhappy that Norths and Souths ended out in the cold as a result of the formation of the NRL and you appear to blame News Ltd. So firstly, I'm wondering why you care about Norths and Souths…

Did you regularly travel to watch Norths and Souths home games?

because it was bad for the game getting rid of foundation clubs and it was the wrong thing to do. as much as i hate souths when we play them, i enjoyed them winning in court and getting back into the competition

all news ltd cared about was their money. they didnt care about the game or what they did to the fans.

you must have friends in news ltd to support them cretins
 
Was it bad for the game when the NSWRL got rid of Newtown? How bout Annandale, Glebe & University? So its ok for the NSWRL to cull teams, but not the NRL?

The fact of the matter remains that Norths, Balmain & Western Suburbs still remain in the NSWRL. Its the NSWRL where there 'Foundation' lies, not the NRL.

The IC only want News Ltd to sign this clause so they can hold them to ransom over Pay TV Rights. As if they are gona put themselves in that situation?!
 
@alien said:
@Tiger Watto said:
How many North Sydney & Souths games did you go to every year Alien?

what does that have to do with it

Have to agree with alien on this. Losing Norths from the comp was every bit as bad a feeling as Wests and Balmain having to merge. I guess Norths were my second favourite team. They were always competitive and had a lot of history too. I think your question is invalid, TW, to the point about the Super League war nearly wrecking footy.
 
Well, whilst I completely disagree with how News Ltd went about things, consolidation of the competition was always going to happen.

In '92 when they began plans to expand, they talked about having to reduce the number of Sydney teams in the future, move, merge or be relegated into a lower grade and just be a feeder team.

I think 9 sides had failed the admission criteria for the '95 comp, Balmain, Easts, Gold Coast, Illawarra, Parramatta, Penrith, Souths, St George and Wests. They were only planning on having 5 sides based in Sydney, I don't know if they had a time frame or anything for that though. So the Sharks, Bears, Dogs and Manly met the criteria at that time.
 
@tigerbenji said:
I didnt want to get into this discussion but if there is ever another split i think it will be the end for a lot of fans & the t.v rights wont be worth a zac.

Bingo.

Sorry Watto - you're deadset wrong. News is bad news. They have no interest in the best thing for the game.
Look at their journos - still harbouring grudges for being beaten back and still being pushed out of a game that should ALWAYS belong to the members and fans.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
Was it bad for the game when the NSWRL got rid of Newtown? How bout Annandale, Glebe & University? So its ok for the NSWRL to cull teams, but not the NRL?

The fact of the matter remains that Norths, Balmain & Western Suburbs still remain in the NSWRL. Its the NSWRL where there 'Foundation' lies, not the NRL.

The IC only want News Ltd to sign this clause so they can hold them to ransom over Pay TV Rights. As if they are gona put themselves in that situation?!

well i dont know if annandale, glebe, newtown, university could have survived in the nswrl but the nrl got rid of teams who could have survived. news ltd dont care for whats best for the game, they never have. they just care about their money
 
@Rohan said:
@tigerbenji said:
I didnt want to get into this discussion but if there is ever another split i think it will be the end for a lot of fans & the t.v rights wont be worth a zac.

Bingo.

Sorry Watto - you're deadset wrong. News is bad news. They have no interest in the best thing for the game.
Look at their journos - still harbouring grudges for being beaten back and still being pushed out of a game that should ALWAYS belong to the members and fans.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

:deadhorse:
 
At the time, I was staunchy against News Ltd. Now I am a little older and wiser, Super League did have some positive effects as the ARL was moving too slowly with rationalisation.

Unfortunately, the game got only a partial outcome relative to the goals of rationalisation. Interestingly, we caused some of this outcome. I can only assume when the administrators looked at the clubs, a merger of Wests and Balmain was not anticipated. wests and balmain were assumed to merge with canterbury and parramatta respectively. Two inner city teams gone. Kill off souths and that is three.

The rationalisation is still half baked for the following areas:

- we have St. George-Illawarra and Cronulla. Why?
- great stadium on the central coast, yet we are stuck with manly. Why?
- no team in Perth despite the early work of the reds. Why?
- Souths and Easts still around. One has to go.
 
Im sure down the track there will be more mergers or relocations.
Sad to see norths go out the way they did and if the ground was ready in the gosford they would have made the criteria as they would have won more games as they couldnt use northsydney oval and crowds suffered that would have pushed them up the criteria ladder.

Yes they were in debt but nothing they wouldnt have traded out of.Nrl criteria forced their hands and manly did the dirty on them in that merger.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@Rohan said:
@tigerbenji said:
I didnt want to get into this discussion but if there is ever another split i think it will be the end for a lot of fans & the t.v rights wont be worth a zac.

Bingo.

Sorry Watto - you're deadset wrong. News is bad news. They have no interest in the best thing for the game.
Look at their journos - still harbouring grudges for being beaten back and still being pushed out of a game that should ALWAYS belong to the members and fans.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

:deadhorse:

Go ahead and deny the fact that we're better off with an independent commission instead of being run as a money making scheme for news ltd.

Or perhaps you liked the idea of _nothing_.
 
Gary, the word is no one can see Parramatta trading out of thier financial situation and the NRL wont bail them out. So I doubt they will be in the NRL in 10 years… I also feel Souths will make a commercial decision to relocate within the same period, so that could free up the current saturation within both corridors.

Sharks... Who knows? I can't see thier cash flow improving...
 

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