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<big>**Extra-time rule gets boot, but McIntyre system likely to linger**</big>
Greg Prichard December 1, 2011

THE National Rugby League is set to change the extra-time rules for finals games next season, but it is still up in the air whether the McIntyre finals system will be retained or dumped in favour of a return to the system the AFL uses.

The league announced at the end of its annual conference yesterday it had formed a competition committee to review next year's finals series structure, extra time in finals games, player safety issues arising from new playing trends - including the controversial ''cannonball'' tackle - and any other suggestions related to match rules that are put forward by clubs.

The NRL asked the clubs for feedback on these issues two weeks ahead of the conference, and the committee is designed to discuss whatever matters the clubs consider to be priorities and make recommendations to the league. The NRL's independent commission will also have a say when it is finally in place, most likely by mid-December.

The Herald has learnt there is solid backing from the clubs for a change to the extra-time rules for the finals, largely as a result of the finals game between Brisbane and St George Illawarra last season, when Darren Lockyer kicked a field goal in the second minute of golden-point extra time to give the Broncos a thrilling 13-12 win.

It is felt finals games are too important to be decided so simply, and that teams should battle over a longer period before a golden-point extra time period comes into play - if there is not already a result.

The likelihood is that extra time in finals will begin with a guaranteed period, possibly five minutes each way, before the situation reverts to golden-point extra time if the scoring is still deadlocked.

There is almost annual debate over whether the McIntyre system should be replaced by the system that splits the top four teams from the bottom four in the first week of the finals. It has always survived, despite calls for it to be abandoned, but this time the push is likely to be stronger than ever.

The Herald understands that while some clubs would like to see the McIntyre system scrapped, there are others that are not fussed either way. It is known that the independent commission believes it is worth discussing.

The competition committee will comprise State of Origin coaches Ricky Stuart and Mal Meninga, former NRL coaches Daniel Anderson and John Lang, former NRL players Andrew Ryan and Trent Barrett, and the NRL director of football operations, Nathan McGuirk. Two current NRL coaches will also be appointed to the committee, and the NRL referees' coaches Bill Harrigan and Stuart Raper will advise on rules.

It is possible decisions on the finals system and extra time could be made this month, but since nothing would be final until the independent commission is in place decisions could be delayed until January.

''The process has begun with the clubs providing direct feedback,'' McGuirk said yesterday. ''The competition committee will be finalised shortly and will get together for the first time in the next seven to 10 days, when the feedback from the clubs will be considered.''

NRL chief executive David Gallop said one of the game's greatest strengths was its capacity to evolve, adding: ''There is little doubt that we are seeing the closest and the most skillful competitions in the game's history and we want to ensure that we are constantly monitoring and evaluating the way the game is played.''

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/extratime-rule-gets-boot-but-mcintyre-system-likely-to-linger-20111130-1o75u.html
 
Wow there could be some truly epic encounters if they decide to go with a guarenteed period of extra time before golden point.

Could we see games pushing 100 minutes in length? Some players will be need to be carried off the ground after a stoush of that length.
 
@Centaur said:
Wow there could be some truly epic encounters if they decide to go with a guarenteed period of extra time before golden point.

Could we see games pushing 100 minutes in length? Some players will be need to be carried off the ground after a stoush of that length.

it will only be for the finals if i read correctly which makes sense i guess but i dont know why they couldnt just do it all year
 
get rid of golden point all together for the 26 rounds.
if in final goes into extra time, the it should be resolved by golden try only.
 
I wonder what they will say if a star player gets injured in overtime the week before grand final. If golden point is good enough for the rest of the season, I don't see why they should have a different rule for finals.
 
@westTAHger said:
get rid of golden point all together for the 26 rounds.
if in final goes into extra time, the it should be resolved by golden try only.

I agree. Why does there have to be an outright winner during the season itself? Surely a draw is acceptable int he normal rounds. Different story come finals time and something needs to be done to resolve the field-goal-athon that golden point games become.
 
If tied up at the end of:
-Regular season games: Draw, 1 point each
-Finals series games: 5 minutes each way
-Extra time in finals: golden point

Simple.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
If tied up at the end of:
-Regular season games: Draw, 1 point each
-Finals series games: 5 minutes each way
-Extra time in finals: golden point

Simple.

Agree with the first two but make it golden try and drop 1 player every minute of extra time
 
@westTAHger said:
get rid of golden point all together for the 26 rounds.
if in final goes into extra time, the it should be resolved by golden try only.

^this. I don't think golden point is necessary at all during the regular season.
 
I also like the idea of a 'golden try' rather than the field goalathon we have at the moment but what are the negatives? is it player welfare or something else, there must be something otherwise the League would have adopted it surely :bulb:
 
I HATE the idea of golden try. First of all if a field goal is good enough in regular time, why not in extra time. Secondly, teams will still play risk free football, just change a field goal shot with a hail mary bomb and that's golden try. Thirdly, it just encourages ill discipline as you can't lose the game via a penalty goal.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
I HATE the idea of golden try. First of all if a field goal is good enough in regular time, why not in extra time. Secondly, teams will still play risk free football, just change a field goal shot with a hail mary bomb and that's golden try. Thirdly, it just encourages ill discipline as you can't lose the game via a penalty goal.

MM I understand what you are saying about the penalties but the one thing we know is teams who get repeat sets of six are very dangerous and would be even more dangerous after 80 plus minutes of football
 
I really don't care what they come up with to decide a final, but please just bring back the draw for the regular season. There is nothing worse than losing in golden point, when you know your team have given it their all and have played equally as good as the 'winning' team, yet come away with nothing. Some games are just meant to be drawn.
 
what if we had in the regular season when a draw occurs, 2 points to the away team and 1 point to the home team??
 
@cunno said:
I also like the idea of a 'golden try' rather than the field goalathon we have at the moment but what are the negatives? is it player welfare or something else, there must be something otherwise the League would have adopted it surely :bulb:

Golden Point was only devised to appease betting agencies and their desire to see a result…

I don't know 1 person who has played the game who believe Golden Point is the answer!!!
 
@Flippedy said:
I really don't care what they come up with to decide a final, but please just bring back the draw for the regular season. There is nothing worse than losing in golden point, when you know your team have given it their all and have played equally as good as the 'winning' team, yet come away with nothing. Some games are just meant to be drawn.

Totally agree both sides give everything they have for 80 minutes and they cant be split.Both sides have earnt a point.
 
I have to disagree, I like extra time. Not fussed on GP specifically, I like the idea that the game simply goes for 2 x 5 more minutes with a winner at the end.

Draws are a waste of time, let them remain in soccer and test cricket.
 
The idea of golden try sounds good in theory, but if a team knows that all they have to do is stop the other team from crossing the tryline they'll be able to constantly rush up and be offside in defense and it won't matter as long as they stop the other team from scoring a try. And we all know how hesitant the refs are to blow penalites in extra time.

It's really very simple how it should be. During the season, you either have no extra time, meaning it's a draw if the score is tied at full time, or you have a set ten minutes of extra time with no golden point. Whoever is leading at the end of the ten minutes wins the game. If it's still tied, it's a draw. During the finals you have the same set ten minutes of extra time. However, if they are still tied after ten minutes, they keep playing under the golden point rule, with a break after each five minute period.
 
Finals are different but during normal rounds you have tried your guts out for 80min so surley a point each @ the end of the 80 is good enough, instead of team trying to kick a field goal.
 
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