NRL TV rights:...$1.7 billion

@Geo. said:
Well it's about as silly as naming players that don't even play the code anymore….assuming they will even come back 3 years older and be competitive...don't see where I said no one will watch and NRL will die and be a disaster either...

How successful were the Western Reds Norther Eagles Adeliade Rams Hunter Mariners South QLD Crushers various Gold Coast incarnations including the current one out of curiosity

not successful at all, but not for reasons of talent.

Warriors, Storm, Broncos, Cowboys seem to have all gone alright. Titans dont have a talent issue, rather crowds, money, sponsors, management etc.

if we expand 2 teams we have more money to play with. I'd expect the cap to easily break 10 mil with the new TV deal, potentially even 12 million dollars a team. you could easily be offering any of those players 2 million a year just on the cap, then add in TPAs and rep payments.
 
We might have kept SBW, S. Burgess, Te'o, Wing just off the top of my head.

There's plenty more that split. I wouldn't count Hayne amongst them as he was on peak money and left to chase a dream.
 
@happy tiger said:
@pHyR3 said:
the season will be shortened by 2-4 games and SOO stand alone, no question about it.

and definitely some expansion too, not sure how theyll do QLD. Ipswich, Logan, Bris 2 all options. and then perth as well.

I'd love to see the NRL pump 30 million into the PNG and create a side up there

It would be packed every home game

How many TVs in PNG?
 
NRL TV deal worth $1.9 billion if Nine sell-out to Fox Sports
Date November 12, 2015 - 4:01PM
Roy Masters
Sports Columnist

Should Channel Nine surrender the right to broadcast Saturday night matches, in exchange for a payment of $40m per year from Fox Sports, a $1.9 billion NRL TV deal from 2018 to 2022 is likely.

Fox Sports Super Saturday coverage is critical to the News Corporation owned network, allowing it to sell the same number of games to subscribers as it does under the existing deal, which still has two years to run.

The $925 million five-year deal Nine negotiated with the NRL in August meant four games per week would be seen on free-to-air TV, a potential tipping point for subscribers to consider a sporting life without Foxtel.

Furthermore, the Nine deal left unsold the other four games in the NRL eight games per week schedule.

The price the NRL will expect for the key 7.30pm Saturday time slot, should it be sold to Fox Sports and therefore no longer be available to every household in Australia, is critical to the final overarching deal.

Nine, keen to reduce costs, will demand $40 million per year, reducing by $200 million, the $925 million deal negotiated with outgoing NRL chief executive Dave Smith.

Fox Sports has offered $130 million a year for the other four games.

The NRL has indicated this is too low and presumably rejects the notion it is selling "bottom four" games.

It now controls all scheduling and won't necessarily devalue pay TV games by always programming the best ones for free-to-air slots.

Nine's costs could be further reduced by $100 million over five years if Fox Sports agree to simulcast Nine's Thursday night, Friday night and Sunday afternoon games.

This would mean Nine paying a total of $625 million, a still significant 39 per cent increase on the $450 million it paid for the same number of games in the current contract.

However, as leading sports media rights advisor Colin Smith points out, the NRL has surrendered competitive tension to Nine, allowing it to sell a game to a rival broadcaster and therefore becoming the effective holder of first and last rights.

This is an ironic twist considering rugby league's last TV deal was a desperate battle by ARL commissioners to successfully extricate themselves from News Corporation's first and last rights, which extended to 2027, a win that contributed to News Ltd boss Kim Williams losing his job.

NRL club warlords, such as the Roosters' Nick Politis and the Bulldogs' Ray Dibb, will be watching with Machievellian manouevering recent revelations in Rupert Murdoch's newspapers of a possible $1.8 billion deal from 2018-22.

Assuming Nine pays $625 million; Fox Sports outlays $200 million for the critical Saturday night match, $100 million for simulcast and $650 million for the remaining four games, the Australian TV total is $1.575 billion.

Telstra paid $100 million for digital rights last time and Optus' recent purchase of the EPL rights, will probably force the Australian owned telco to double its offering to $200 million.

Sky New Zealand can be expected to pay between $80 million and $100 million over the five years.

Nine, Fox Sports, Telstra and New Zealand payments add up to $1.875 billion, just over the projected $1.8 billion.

While the club warlords may declare this "get out of jail" money, it won't stop their politicking for a greater role on the make up of the ARL Commission.

The only meaningful comparison they will make is to compare the final NRL TV deal to the $2.55 billion over six years contract awarded the AFL by News Corporation, Channel Seven and Telstra.

This is equivalent to a five year term of $2.13 billion, or a 70 per cent increase on their current $1.250 billion deal which still has one year left.

It is not realistic for the NRL rebels to demand the same money as AFL, considering it has an additional game to sell (nine compared to eight) and its two-hour format over four quarters allows for more commercial breaks.

However, Politis and his cohorts will expect a 70 per cent increase on the NRL's current $1.125 billion, considering the last increase was 80 per cent and the code dominated top five Australian ratings in 2015.

That's a figure of $1.9 billion and there is no need for a rush to achieve it, considering there are two years left to negotiate in a world of rapidly changing technology, while the AFL has locked itself out of it for seven years.

Should Nine sell Saturday night to Fox Sports, it will end the dream of Nine's chief executive, David Gyngell, whose ultimate ambition is a four-quarter game of rugby league on primetime nights, going up against AFL.

Unless, of course, Gyngell returns as an ARL commissioner.

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Why Fox dropped the EPL?

They'd want to retain simulcast rights for the NRL, if they don't my Fox subscription is being shafted. I'm not spending $135 a month for TV I can largely get FTA now or have to subscribe for elsewhere (La Liga, EPL, NFL.)
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Why Fox dropped the EPL?

They'd want to retain simulcast rights for the NRL, if they don't my Fox subscription is being shafted. I'm not spending $135 a month for TV I can largely get FTA now or have to subscribe for elsewhere (La Liga, EPL, NFL.)

Mate I thought they were outbid ??
 
I just pray the simulcast idea gets off the ground ….no more Nine...
 
@happy tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Why Fox dropped the EPL?

They'd want to retain simulcast rights for the NRL, if they don't my Fox subscription is being shafted. I'm not spending $135 a month for TV I can largely get FTA now or have to subscribe for elsewhere (La Liga, EPL, NFL.)

Mate I thought they were outbid ??

Where is the EPL being shown now then ? :rant
 
@foreveratiger said:
@happy tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Why Fox dropped the EPL?

They'd want to retain simulcast rights for the NRL, if they don't my Fox subscription is being shafted. I'm not spending $135 a month for TV I can largely get FTA now or have to subscribe for elsewhere (La Liga, EPL, NFL.)

Mate I thought they were outbid ??

Where is the EPL being shown now then ? :rant

Sky sports , and I can't answer that question

Maybe on the back of Geo very large derriere , I hear that's the second living thing that can be spotted from space now
 
I know they were outbid, I'm saying they dropped the EPL to afford the NRL rights?

They lost EPL rights to Optus I'm pretty sure and BEin sports.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
I know they were outbid, I'm saying they dropped the EPL to afford the NRL rights?

They lost EPL rights to Optus I'm pretty sure and BEin sports.

Not likely , EPL worth far more than NRL

And seeing I miss half the WT's NRL game live on Fox anyway , foxtel doesn't seem such an important luxury without the EPL games
 
@happy tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
I know they were outbid, I'm saying they dropped the EPL to afford the NRL rights?

They lost EPL rights to Optus I'm pretty sure and BEin sports.

Not likely , EPL worth far more than NRL

And seeing I miss half the WT's NRL game live on Fox anyway , foxtel doesn't seem such an important luxury without the EPL games

$63 million) a year over three years. is all they paid…hardly worth more

Nine paid 925mill for 4 games a week for 5 years

http://www.smh.com.au/business/optus-eyes-bigger-sports-prizes-after-winning-epl-rights-20151102-gkox75.html
 
@foreveratiger said:
@happy tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Why Fox dropped the EPL?

They'd want to retain simulcast rights for the NRL, if they don't my Fox subscription is being shafted. I'm not spending $135 a month for TV I can largely get FTA now or have to subscribe for elsewhere (La Liga, EPL, NFL.)

Mate I thought they were outbid ??

Where is the EPL being shown now then ? :rant

It is unclear how Optus will use the rights, with a spokesperson saying the telco was currently exploring options for distribution.

"Our goal is to make this content available to as many fans as possible but we're not going into to detail about distribution platforms at this stage," said the spokesperson.

"We'll have more to say about this in due course."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-02/optus-to-broadcast-premier-league-in-australia/6904866
 
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
I know they were outbid, I'm saying they dropped the EPL to afford the NRL rights?

They lost EPL rights to Optus I'm pretty sure and BEin sports.

Not likely , EPL worth far more than NRL

And seeing I miss half the WT's NRL game live on Fox anyway , foxtel doesn't seem such an important luxury without the EPL games

$63 million) a year over three years. is all they paid…hardly worth more

Nine paid 925mill for 4 games a week for 5 years

http://www.smh.com.au/business/optus-eyes-bigger-sports-prizes-after-winning-epl-rights-20151102-gkox75.html

I wonder how many people will tell Foxtel to stick it if they don't have the EPL

That's why it is worth lots Geo
 
@happy tiger said:
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
I know they were outbid, I'm saying they dropped the EPL to afford the NRL rights?

They lost EPL rights to Optus I'm pretty sure and BEin sports.

Not likely , EPL worth far more than NRL

And seeing I miss half the WT's NRL game live on Fox anyway , foxtel doesn't seem such an important luxury without the EPL games

$63 million) a year over three years. is all they paid…hardly worth more

Nine paid 925mill for 4 games a week for 5 years

http://www.smh.com.au/business/optus-eyes-bigger-sports-prizes-after-winning-epl-rights-20151102-gkox75.html

I wonder how many people will tell Foxtel to stick it if they don't have the EPL

That's why it is worth lots Geo

The domestic league is screened on SBS2 and Fox Sports, and - due to the English Premier League's poor viewing times for Australians - receives stronger audiences.

Probably 4 less…at least You n CB n FT n Hobbo...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-02/optus-to-broadcast-premier-league-in-australia/6904866

They also increased Subscriber numbers in 2015 to 2.8 million albeit had to offer cheaper packages...

http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/foxtels-price-cuts-boost-subscribers-to-28-million-but-at-a-cost-20150812-giy0zo.html

I would suggest that... if Roy's article is accurate and they are granted simulcast rights for all 8 games of RL then subscriptions will increase more than enough to cover any losses they may garner from losing the EPL...as Rugby League is their highest rater now...I know which broadcaster I prefer add free...
 
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
Not likely , EPL worth far more than NRL

And seeing I miss half the WT's NRL game live on Fox anyway , foxtel doesn't seem such an important luxury without the EPL games

$63 million) a year over three years. is all they paid…hardly worth more

Nine paid 925mill for 4 games a week for 5 years

http://www.smh.com.au/business/optus-eyes-bigger-sports-prizes-after-winning-epl-rights-20151102-gkox75.html

I wonder how many people will tell Foxtel to stick it if they don't have the EPL

That's why it is worth lots Geo

The domestic league is screened on SBS2 and Fox Sports, and - due to the English Premier League's poor viewing times for Australians - receives stronger audiences.

Probably 4 less…at least You n CB n FT n Hobbo...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-02/optus-to-broadcast-premier-league-in-australia/6904866

They also increased Subscriber numbers in 2015 to 2.8 million albeit had to offer cheaper packages...

http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/foxtels-price-cuts-boost-subscribers-to-28-million-but-at-a-cost-20150812-giy0zo.html

I would suggest that... if Roy's article is accurate and they are granted simulcast rights for all 8 games of RL then subscriptions will increase more than enough to cover any losses they may garner from losing the EPL...as Rugby League is their highest rater now...I know which broadcaster I prefer add free...

If the difference between paying $135 a month means ads or no ads during Rugby League and that's it, I'll take the ads thanks.

All Fox really screens that isn't available on elsewhere is exclusive A-League and half the NRL. The American Football offering is pathetic at the moment. Plenty of college ball which is all well and good but I've had to wait until last Friday to see a Bengals game, and that's only because they were 7-0 coming into it and it was the Ohio derby against Cleveland.

I love watching Sydney FC run around and the Fox product is very glossy and well produced, but I'm sorry to say it isn't worth $135 a month to me.
 
I'm one of those fence-sitters re Foxtel. We haven't reinstalled Foxtel since moving house and I only have it for the rugby league, plus a bit of tennis/cricket in the winter nights.

If Foxtel don't have a good deal from 2016+, I'm prepared to pay for digital subscription or go to the pub/mates. I already watched about a dozen Friday games on internet last year.
 
For fifty a month you get all the sports channels plus a few more streamed through yer pc which i have running through my 60 inch TV.

I cancel it in October and renew it when the footy starts.

50 bucks for all the games and all the footy shows is well worth it IMO….
 
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