innsaneink
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Wallace…hes tough, can go 80 in Origin (which these kids the kid here is talking about would be lucky to do in NRL), can kick, direct play, has experience, hes tough and wont let you down
NSW Origin Team
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Glad this is what a Forum is all about - difference of opinion.
I don't think Brailey is in the same class as Liddle now, let alone into the future. Brailey imo is a very ordinary DH - lacks the Liddle creativity.
As far as I remember Liddle has played about 14 games for us , not 2 or 3\. Brailey played most of the season although he was injured and missed a few - so somewhere around 18.
We are talking SOO here - can't even see why people are talking about Liddle, Brailey, Addo Carr, Moses etc. None of these players are even close to being ready.
Addo Carr, Mitchell and Fifita can win you a game but they can also lose you a game - are they worth the risk - my thought is NO.
Moses wouldn't tackle a good feed - let alone stand up in SOO. In the NRL he has players trying to cover for him, this cannot happen in SOO. There is no where to hide. It is everyone for himself.
Peats is NOT good enough - no creativity whatsoever, no kicking game - passes ok and tackles ok - but this is SOO not NRL where you can get away with that. The only DH we have that is good enough at this stage is Peter Wallace. Hopefully he can last out until one of these young guys stands up.
As for someone making 10 changes - What!!! Let's just let QLD have it for another year.
tig_prmz
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peter wallace is my choice tooo
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Yes, too many Origin noobs. There needs to be a transition from old to new. I think they should pick Reynolds to lead the halves with Maloney for consistency for one game. Then bring Moses if his form is still very good or Blake Austin. Yes I know we hate Moses but he is probably one of the form 5/8ths at the moment and roughly the same height as Reynolds.
There needs to be a shakeup in the front row, but we need to see who is playing with Energy. Mclean may be a good pick because we need an energizer bunny in the front and Melbourne tend to make those. but at most 2x front rowers get the axe and two come in Vaughan is one of those.
kevinmcguiness
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i'd still prefer tommy turbo over tedesco
goldcoast_tiger
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I could live with Wallace being the hooker, he's been very good since switching to
That spot.
Plus if Cleary gets the halfback spot( as I hope), the combination is there.
We could do a lot worse.
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Wallace was talked up for 2017 SOO but got an injury at just the wrong time. 2018 he might have more luck.
i'd go for a tough seasoned player at 9\. Wallace is certainly that. If Reynolds or Pearce played some 9 before SOO in season 2018 then they could be considered as well. No rookie 9 is up to it yet.
As for rookies : either Gutherson on the bench as a utility or Cleary at 7.
I think 2019 will be Cleary's year. hopefully he is at the Tigers by then.
Tim Sheens
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Not so sure about Reynolds, but reckon Pearce would excel at nine.
Harvey
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Wallace would be good. McInnes had a much better season than last year. I would consider Korisau. Lichaa has could be a smokey under a new coach and Rein needs to find regular first grade football
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Maybe Pearce would excel at 9, but Robbie Farah excel's at 9 and his problem is not getting the ball to the halves. What's Pearce, a number 7 going to do? He will run, kick play as a halfback.
There is no way Selectors should select Cleary as half. He is no where near ready. However if they pick Cleary, they need to pick him with Wallace and then pick a great 5/8\. I am hoping Blake Austin will show some good form, because I reckon he has a good size and go forward for Origin (out of form, forget it). Otherwise we may be talking Maloney or Moses.
I am sure that Pearce will form a great combination with Cronk if he stays at the Roosters. But what will a "normal" halfback think of this half playing hooker? We removed Robbie Farah because he was too involved and did not give good ball, Pearce would be worse unless he stays at hooker for 2 years.
westTAHger
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Only when NSW improve their mindset, will they win another series.
They had the game in control, at halftime in game 2 of the series, and let it slip away.
They had the game in control, at halftime in game 2 of the series, and let it slip away.
Mitchell Moses hoping Brad Fittler association extends to State of Origin
Adrian Proszenko
Adrian Proszenko
Mitchell Moses is hoping his association with Brad Fittler extends beyond their time in Lebanon camp, revealing his desire to impress his long-time hero and likely NSW coach as part of his push for a maiden State of Origin berth next year.
Moses will partner former Wests Tigers teammate Robbie Farah in the halves for the Cedars in their World Cup opener this weekend. It's a chance for the Parramatta playmaker to forge a strong bond with Lebanon mentor Fittler, tipped to take over from Laurie Daley as Blues coach from next month.
The 23-year-old's stocks are on the rise after a strong finish to the season culminated in the Eels playing finals football for the first time since 2009\. He will be able to show how much his game has matured in clashes with France, England and Australia in what could prove to be an invaluable opportunity to bond with Fittler.
With long-time NSW halfback Mitchell Pearce again under pressure to retain the NSW No.7 jersey after another failed campaign, Moses said he was keen to crack the Origin arena.
"Definitely, 100 per cent. It's my goal every year," Moses said.
"If I keep playing the footy I was playing towards the end of the year, that stuff will sort itself out. We'll see what happens."
Moses said the opportunity to impress the likely NSW coach wasn't lost on him.
"Exactly. Whatever [selectors] do, I grew up idolising Freddie, he was one of the best five-eighths in the game.
"Whatever advice he can give me, I'm really going to listen in this camp. I'll take a lot out of this; whatever he has to say, I'll be listening.
"I'm not looking at it as in he's going to get the Blues job, I'll look at it as him being a world-class coach and a world-class player when he was playing. Whatever advice he has for me, I'll take in on board."
Fittler has already made his mark with the Cedars. The Panthers and Roosters legend has asked his squad to learn the Lebanese national anthem, orders his players to do 50 push-ups a day and encourages them to finish training by taking their boots off in an attempt to get back to nature.
Moses is buying in.
"It's a bit different, he's a pretty relaxed bloke," he said.
"For myself, I looked up to Freddie when I was younger and I'll take as much as I can out of this camp.
"He's one of the best five-eighths to play the game so whatever he says and whenever he gives you a few pointers about the game, you're always going to listen."
The opportunity to come into Lebanon camp with a mix of NRL players and semi-professionals is just the tonic to help Moses overcome the heartbreak of Parramatta's finals exit.
"It's brought my spirits back up," he said. "It was pretty shattering the way we finished and being here has helped me get over it.
"I've learned a lot [playing finals football]. The speed of the game, how much it changed, it's going to be the best thing for us as a team at Parramatta. We'll look to have a big year and take that experience into next season.
"I feel I've got a fair bit of improvement to go from this pre-season. Once this tournament is over I'll get straight back into training and get that full pre-eason under my belt. It will be massive."
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/mitchell-moses-hoping-brad-fittler-association-extends-to-state-of-origin-20171024-gz7fga.html
Adrian Proszenko
Adrian Proszenko
Mitchell Moses is hoping his association with Brad Fittler extends beyond their time in Lebanon camp, revealing his desire to impress his long-time hero and likely NSW coach as part of his push for a maiden State of Origin berth next year.
Moses will partner former Wests Tigers teammate Robbie Farah in the halves for the Cedars in their World Cup opener this weekend. It's a chance for the Parramatta playmaker to forge a strong bond with Lebanon mentor Fittler, tipped to take over from Laurie Daley as Blues coach from next month.
The 23-year-old's stocks are on the rise after a strong finish to the season culminated in the Eels playing finals football for the first time since 2009\. He will be able to show how much his game has matured in clashes with France, England and Australia in what could prove to be an invaluable opportunity to bond with Fittler.
With long-time NSW halfback Mitchell Pearce again under pressure to retain the NSW No.7 jersey after another failed campaign, Moses said he was keen to crack the Origin arena.
"Definitely, 100 per cent. It's my goal every year," Moses said.
"If I keep playing the footy I was playing towards the end of the year, that stuff will sort itself out. We'll see what happens."
Moses said the opportunity to impress the likely NSW coach wasn't lost on him.
"Exactly. Whatever [selectors] do, I grew up idolising Freddie, he was one of the best five-eighths in the game.
"Whatever advice he can give me, I'm really going to listen in this camp. I'll take a lot out of this; whatever he has to say, I'll be listening.
"I'm not looking at it as in he's going to get the Blues job, I'll look at it as him being a world-class coach and a world-class player when he was playing. Whatever advice he has for me, I'll take in on board."
Fittler has already made his mark with the Cedars. The Panthers and Roosters legend has asked his squad to learn the Lebanese national anthem, orders his players to do 50 push-ups a day and encourages them to finish training by taking their boots off in an attempt to get back to nature.
Moses is buying in.
"It's a bit different, he's a pretty relaxed bloke," he said.
"For myself, I looked up to Freddie when I was younger and I'll take as much as I can out of this camp.
"He's one of the best five-eighths to play the game so whatever he says and whenever he gives you a few pointers about the game, you're always going to listen."
The opportunity to come into Lebanon camp with a mix of NRL players and semi-professionals is just the tonic to help Moses overcome the heartbreak of Parramatta's finals exit.
"It's brought my spirits back up," he said. "It was pretty shattering the way we finished and being here has helped me get over it.
"I've learned a lot [playing finals football]. The speed of the game, how much it changed, it's going to be the best thing for us as a team at Parramatta. We'll look to have a big year and take that experience into next season.
"I feel I've got a fair bit of improvement to go from this pre-season. Once this tournament is over I'll get straight back into training and get that full pre-eason under my belt. It will be massive."
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/mitchell-moses-hoping-brad-fittler-association-extends-to-state-of-origin-20171024-gz7fga.html
Spud_Murphy
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In ya dreams Mitchy boy!
GNR4LIFE
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Lol thanks but no thanks jerk.
GNR4LIFE
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Moses grew up idolising Fittler, yet was 10 when Freddy retired. That would be like me saying I grew idolising Terry Lamb who retired when I was 10\. I can barely remember him.
supercoach
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Origin is the last place you would want a flat tracker like Moses. He is mentally weak and very unreliable when exposed to quality pressure. Also would you ever consider playing a guy who has such a bad defensive record at that level.
Balmainbred
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After Friday nights game against the poms if Duggan keeps playing like that he’s got the left centre for nsw game 1 next year sewn up
