NYC 'Live score thread' Wests Tigers v Canberra Raiders
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steven_tiger
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@stryker said:
They are still kids. What do you expect?
It's better than Jersey Flegg IMO.
steven_tiger
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Quality wise?
I disagree. The NYC is stronger than Flegg, and the footy is better.
I disagree. The NYC is stronger than Flegg, and the footy is better.
@steven_tiger said:
Agree Steven…..
There was a State Cup finals game last week 7th V 2nd.....7th won 64 -4.....
simonthetiger
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Im surpised at the knockers of the under 20's.
The skill level of these kids is phenom,as well as the size of them too,wow they are huge for 19 year olds.
Ive been to plenty of Beam and /20 games,and while defense is better in the olders,the speed of the unders is amazing and a much better game to watch IMO.
ANd there have been plenty of kids come straight from the toyota and slot straight in no worries.Even us.
The skill level of these kids is phenom,as well as the size of them too,wow they are huge for 19 year olds.
Ive been to plenty of Beam and /20 games,and while defense is better in the olders,the speed of the unders is amazing and a much better game to watch IMO.
ANd there have been plenty of kids come straight from the toyota and slot straight in no worries.Even us.
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The speed is better because there is no defence. Defence chews petrol.
NYC has it's place and I think it is a TV friendly and easily accesible form of the game. In fact I think it should be marketed to free to air as it would be a wonderful introduction for irregular viewers.
The problem I have is that the NRL have set it up as the step below NRL level which it is not. It rushes kids into the top grade. The flegg system provided experience and progression at the correct rate. The NYC has seen many more serious injuries than it's Flegg predecesor and IMO will see player burn out much earlier.
I think the NYC has it's place but the system in general needs a better balance.
Now a congratulations to the NYC boys on their win. I have only seen the second half thus far as I was in transit for the first half
NYC has it's place and I think it is a TV friendly and easily accesible form of the game. In fact I think it should be marketed to free to air as it would be a wonderful introduction for irregular viewers.
The problem I have is that the NRL have set it up as the step below NRL level which it is not. It rushes kids into the top grade. The flegg system provided experience and progression at the correct rate. The NYC has seen many more serious injuries than it's Flegg predecesor and IMO will see player burn out much earlier.
I think the NYC has it's place but the system in general needs a better balance.
Now a congratulations to the NYC boys on their win. I have only seen the second half thus far as I was in transit for the first half
@smeghead said:
Their defence was great in the first half as well as some great attack. (If that young Mullany is not the next big thing then I am a bad judge)
Second half they eased off as is normal when you are leading by heaps. As someone else stated the referee did not help them either, but he sure helped Canberra.
Still it will be very tough against St George Illawarra next week. Big, fast and clever, they should just about win the comp. However players like the Fifita brothers, Mullany, Jackson and both second rowers, should give first grade a shake next year.
Now a congratulations to the NYC boys on their win. I have only seen the second half thus far as I was in transit for the first half
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WESTS TIGERS BEAT CANBERRA 42-34 IN TOYOTA CUP SEMI-FINAL
By Wayne Cousins at SFS
Friday, September 18, 2009
A dominant first half performance led to Wests Tigers recording a 42-34 victory over Canberra Raiders tonight in the Toyota Cup elimination semi-final at the Sydney Football Stadium.
The fourth-placed Wests Tigers, hurting from a heavy quarter final loss to Brisbane, turned in arguably their finest first half performance of the season against the eight-placed Canberra, who went into the game on the back of an upset quarter final win over minor premiers Manly.
Wests Tigers lost five-eighth Robert Lui for the match after he failed to overcome a knee injury picked up against Brisbane.
Wests Tigers went into the match without five-eighth Robert Lui after he was ruled out with a knee injury .
Lui suffered the knee injury in the loss to Brisbane at Skilled Park last Saturday night and has failed to recover in time. Jay Florimo moves to five-eighth.
The only other changes to the team named on Tuesday are Pat Politoni and Monikura Tikinau come onto the interchange bench. Neccrom Areaitti drops off the bench.
The opening minutes saw both sides start solidly without any line breaks.
The first line break came in the fifth minute when Canberra centre Daniel Vidot found open space down the left flank before linking up with a support player in the middle, who was tackled 10 metres short of the line and lost posession on the last tackle.
Wests Tigers opened the scoring in the seventh minute when a chip kick on the last tackle by half-back and captain Darren Nicholls bounced off the shoulder of Canberra player Mick Cullen for full-back Jake Mullaney to swoop on the loose ball to pick it up and score behind the posts.
Mullaney converted his own try for a 6-0 lead after 10 minutes.
The Raiders went on a raid down the right flank through centree Drury Low whose kick over the top bounced awkwardly for Mullaney before he regathered it on the second bounce to give Wests Tigers posession.
Wests Tigers dug deep in defence in the 17th minute to keep Canberra from scoring.
The good work in defence was rewarded two minutes later when prop Andrew Fifita crashed his way over to score under the posts.
The try came on the back of a dummy half break by hooker Chris Corby and good work by second-rower Jason Schirnack. The tough second-rower remained on his knees in a two man tackle and offloaded back to Corby who gave the ball to prop Aaron Woods to deliver a short pass for Fifita to crash through full-back Haydon Hodge to score.
Mullaney converted the try for a 12-0 lead.
Canberra got a repeat set in the 25th minute off a grubber kick after winger Joel Jackson was trapped in goal. The Raiders then lost the ball in an incorrect play the ball in the next set.
Wests Tigers made the most of the mistake when they scored through prop David Fifita. It came off a towering bomb 45 metres out by Florimo. The ball was spilt by Canberra for centre Joel Wisbey to swoop on the ball to offload to Fifita to score next to the posts.
Mullaney converted the try for an 18-0 lead after 28 minutes.
It became 22-0 a minute later when Patrick Politoni raced 30 metres to score next to the posts after Rhys Curran broke through a tackle and raced 30 metres himself to find Politoni to score. Mullaney converted the try for a 24-0 lead.
A minute later, Polotoni busted a a tackle from dummy half and raced 40 metres before linking up with Mullaney who raced 55 metres to score his second try. Mullaney converted his own try from in front of the posts for a 30-0 lead after 33 minutes.
Mullaney grabbed his third try in the 35th minute when a grubber kick 10 metres out by him was spilt bya Canberra defender for the full-back to swoop on the ball to score next to the posts.
Mullaney converted his own try for a 36-0 lead after 37 minutes.
Canberra opened their account when winger Steve Naughton finished off a backline play to score in the corner a minute later. The try came after David Fifita was penalised for an infringement in the play the ball.
The try was not converted to leave Canberra trailing 36-4 after 39 minutes.
Wests Tigers had one last chance to score in the final seconds before half-time but a crossfield kick by Nicholls saw the ball go over the outstretched hand of winger Joel Jackson to leave Wests Tigers with a commanding 36-4 lead at half-time.
2nd Half
Canberra opened the scoring in the second half when Vidot crashed over out wide. The try was not converted for a 36-8 scoreline after 44 minutes.
Wests Tigers hit back immediately when a lost ball by Canberra was pounced on by Florimo, who was tackled 10 metres short of the line. Two plays later, Florimo used his strength and speed to score next to the posts. Mullaney converted the try for a 42-8 lead after 47 minutes.
Canberra reached double figures when forward Justin Toomey-White used his strength to slam the ball down under the posts despite the attention of David Fifita. Captain and five-eighth Mick Picker converted the try for a 42-14 scoreline after 55 minutes.
Wests Tigers winger Sama Sauvao had a try disallowed in the corner in the 58th minute after the referee ruled a forward pass from a cut out pass by Mullaney.
A towering bomb by Canberra second-rower Sam Mataora was allowed to bounce by Mullaney. The ball landed into the arms of a Canberra player before it was spread left through Vidot for winger Mick Cullen to score. Picker converted the try for a 42-20 scoreline after 64 minutes.
Canberra kept their comeback alive when a short grubber kick by half-back Sam Williams saw second-rower Mark Nicholls score out wide. The try was not converted to leave it 42-24.
Mataora then pushed off five defenders in a 35 metre barnstorming run to score in the corner for a 42-28 scoreline. The try was not converted.
Canberra scored again when Picker swooped on a chip kick to score next to the posts. Picker converted his own try for a 42-34 scoreline in the 79th minute.
Wests Tigers now move into the preliminary final against St George-Illawarra next weekend. The date and venue will be advised after tomorrow’s games.
By Wayne Cousins at SFS
Friday, September 18, 2009
A dominant first half performance led to Wests Tigers recording a 42-34 victory over Canberra Raiders tonight in the Toyota Cup elimination semi-final at the Sydney Football Stadium.
The fourth-placed Wests Tigers, hurting from a heavy quarter final loss to Brisbane, turned in arguably their finest first half performance of the season against the eight-placed Canberra, who went into the game on the back of an upset quarter final win over minor premiers Manly.
Wests Tigers lost five-eighth Robert Lui for the match after he failed to overcome a knee injury picked up against Brisbane.
Wests Tigers went into the match without five-eighth Robert Lui after he was ruled out with a knee injury .
Lui suffered the knee injury in the loss to Brisbane at Skilled Park last Saturday night and has failed to recover in time. Jay Florimo moves to five-eighth.
The only other changes to the team named on Tuesday are Pat Politoni and Monikura Tikinau come onto the interchange bench. Neccrom Areaitti drops off the bench.
The opening minutes saw both sides start solidly without any line breaks.
The first line break came in the fifth minute when Canberra centre Daniel Vidot found open space down the left flank before linking up with a support player in the middle, who was tackled 10 metres short of the line and lost posession on the last tackle.
Wests Tigers opened the scoring in the seventh minute when a chip kick on the last tackle by half-back and captain Darren Nicholls bounced off the shoulder of Canberra player Mick Cullen for full-back Jake Mullaney to swoop on the loose ball to pick it up and score behind the posts.
Mullaney converted his own try for a 6-0 lead after 10 minutes.
The Raiders went on a raid down the right flank through centree Drury Low whose kick over the top bounced awkwardly for Mullaney before he regathered it on the second bounce to give Wests Tigers posession.
Wests Tigers dug deep in defence in the 17th minute to keep Canberra from scoring.
The good work in defence was rewarded two minutes later when prop Andrew Fifita crashed his way over to score under the posts.
The try came on the back of a dummy half break by hooker Chris Corby and good work by second-rower Jason Schirnack. The tough second-rower remained on his knees in a two man tackle and offloaded back to Corby who gave the ball to prop Aaron Woods to deliver a short pass for Fifita to crash through full-back Haydon Hodge to score.
Mullaney converted the try for a 12-0 lead.
Canberra got a repeat set in the 25th minute off a grubber kick after winger Joel Jackson was trapped in goal. The Raiders then lost the ball in an incorrect play the ball in the next set.
Wests Tigers made the most of the mistake when they scored through prop David Fifita. It came off a towering bomb 45 metres out by Florimo. The ball was spilt by Canberra for centre Joel Wisbey to swoop on the ball to offload to Fifita to score next to the posts.
Mullaney converted the try for an 18-0 lead after 28 minutes.
It became 22-0 a minute later when Patrick Politoni raced 30 metres to score next to the posts after Rhys Curran broke through a tackle and raced 30 metres himself to find Politoni to score. Mullaney converted the try for a 24-0 lead.
A minute later, Polotoni busted a a tackle from dummy half and raced 40 metres before linking up with Mullaney who raced 55 metres to score his second try. Mullaney converted his own try from in front of the posts for a 30-0 lead after 33 minutes.
Mullaney grabbed his third try in the 35th minute when a grubber kick 10 metres out by him was spilt bya Canberra defender for the full-back to swoop on the ball to score next to the posts.
Mullaney converted his own try for a 36-0 lead after 37 minutes.
Canberra opened their account when winger Steve Naughton finished off a backline play to score in the corner a minute later. The try came after David Fifita was penalised for an infringement in the play the ball.
The try was not converted to leave Canberra trailing 36-4 after 39 minutes.
Wests Tigers had one last chance to score in the final seconds before half-time but a crossfield kick by Nicholls saw the ball go over the outstretched hand of winger Joel Jackson to leave Wests Tigers with a commanding 36-4 lead at half-time.
2nd Half
Canberra opened the scoring in the second half when Vidot crashed over out wide. The try was not converted for a 36-8 scoreline after 44 minutes.
Wests Tigers hit back immediately when a lost ball by Canberra was pounced on by Florimo, who was tackled 10 metres short of the line. Two plays later, Florimo used his strength and speed to score next to the posts. Mullaney converted the try for a 42-8 lead after 47 minutes.
Canberra reached double figures when forward Justin Toomey-White used his strength to slam the ball down under the posts despite the attention of David Fifita. Captain and five-eighth Mick Picker converted the try for a 42-14 scoreline after 55 minutes.
Wests Tigers winger Sama Sauvao had a try disallowed in the corner in the 58th minute after the referee ruled a forward pass from a cut out pass by Mullaney.
A towering bomb by Canberra second-rower Sam Mataora was allowed to bounce by Mullaney. The ball landed into the arms of a Canberra player before it was spread left through Vidot for winger Mick Cullen to score. Picker converted the try for a 42-20 scoreline after 64 minutes.
Canberra kept their comeback alive when a short grubber kick by half-back Sam Williams saw second-rower Mark Nicholls score out wide. The try was not converted to leave it 42-24.
Mataora then pushed off five defenders in a 35 metre barnstorming run to score in the corner for a 42-28 scoreline. The try was not converted.
Canberra scored again when Picker swooped on a chip kick to score next to the posts. Picker converted his own try for a 42-34 scoreline in the 79th minute.
Wests Tigers now move into the preliminary final against St George-Illawarra next weekend. The date and venue will be advised after tomorrow’s games.
@simonthetiger said:
I agree with all that mate but the emphasis seems to be on attack with very little concern about defence. Ive been to local u/18's games where the skill level is quite high and the defence is fullon.
It seems that most sides only concentrate on half of the game.
I also acknowledge that they are still kids, with the tag on that most players would have been on the rep scene for four or five years and a greater percentage of them have a shocking attitude to defense.
It just makes me concerned as to how hard the transition will be for the majority of them from this comp to grade. There should be one more stepping stone before they are introduced to the men.
Anyways I'm glad that a wests tigers team is still alive and kicking at this stage in the season. good luck for the weekend boys.
