Official Moses Mbye signs till 2022..

[Newtown]

Be happy with the win and in the knowledge that with the players and coach we have there is real room for improvement. Negativity after yesterday's win is counter productive.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Can you describe what Tui's X factor is?
Im not being sarcastic mate i just struggle to see what his special attributes are.

I too would be interested to know.

Sets up match winning trys, undefeated with him in the team this year.

He has the ability to win games but he makes me nervous defensively at fullback.

I think Tuis best position would be a utility if Benji hangs up the boots but unsure if he could play hooker. Could bring him on when Liddle goes off and move Reynolds to hooker and Tui to 5/8.

I'd say once Mbye is around and Benji is gone, he'll be the bench utility, Could be an option in the centres.

 

[Masterton]

I didn't think he was impressive, not even solid, however his actions in the opposition 20 led to points. We were so dominant and didn't score, so what he brings to the team is the ability to put someone over the line.

Don't know if you saw the bunnies game on the weekend, one of their tries was from lovely hands in the backline with jennings finding the line in the corner. I thought to myself "why can't we break down passive defense like this?" The answer is we have been a ball player short, and we saw with Nofo's try that we can actually score a try from a backline movement, without the need for a miracle pass from benji or brooks.

Mbye has a similar skill set, and probably makes less bad decisions, so I'm not blindly defending Tui. Just trying to offer some perspective as to why I think we need him wearing the 1 for now. Thomson on the wing showed you still get the best out of him, so proud of this guy, but he doesn't have the passing game of a 2018 fullback imo.

Well said, OMT.

 

[4jtigers]

The thing is, i can acknowlwdge the deficincies in his game, like the howler where he dropped the ball before HT. You and his other critics can't say anything positive about him, even when he wins us games like in round 1\. Instead, when he set up the match winning try and kicks the goal from the sideline, the response was "he missed one from in front earlier so it doesn't matter". Can only imagine the crap he'd have copped if hs missed the penalty shot Matsters did last night. Marsters doesn't even cop half the crap the Tui did when he kicked, and Marsters is twice as bad as a kicker that Tui is. I haven't seen a vandetta this bad on the forum since JT. People just hate him, and find it highly offensive when its suggested he recieve credit for anything.

I don't hate him, I just don't think he's a particularly good player. You're salty because you were madly calling for him to be signed and he's turned out to be a dud.

And to say the vendetta is the worst since JT is fake news. Rankin and Lovett copped it much worse (and deservedly so). And what about Woods? You used to abuse him on this forum on a personal level, not just on his game. Fairly hypocritical of you to take umbrage with peoples legitimate criticism of a player when you've been so petty in the past.

When Tui goes on national tv and throws our club under the bus, while captain, i'll feel the same way about him. Until then, i'll judge him on his footy. He's not half as bad as you pretend to make out. And im not salty, cos he's far from been a dud.

Oh you're salty. REAL salty.

is that salt on your avocado? I'd prefer sugar, thanks! :laughing:

He ain't a dud - Clearly will not sign anyone who is a dud - you should know that by now. Tui might not be in his best form but he is getting there and a player does not get picked to play for his country if he is a dud.

 

[ricksen]

Just on any announcements, I doubt we’ll see any today given the news cycle is full of origin selection content.

 

[swag_tiger]

Just hurry up and announce something already. :brick:

 

[jirskyr]

No idea why you would think that.

You have very specific types of players you want the Tigers to target.

Mbye fits the bill quite nicely. Not a superstar, but he is improving at fullback and he has a decent football brain, not to mention commonsense. The next step up from Mbye for me was RTS. Different player, but he is respected by his peers despite his young age.

Seens like you have been doing some research.

What are you swaggy, an online psych-profiling bot?

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

the undefeated with Lolohea in the team is funny..

Keep picking him Ivan I'm sure we will go the rest of the season undefeated..

Unless circumstances have changed Mbye is for 2019..so lucky we have Lolohea..the lucky charm..

yes, it is that simple :slight_smile: But wait, there is more! If Lolohea plays, our premiership is in the bag :laughing:

 

[jirskyr]

I didn't think he was impressive, not even solid, however his actions in the opposition 20 led to points. We were so dominant and didn't score, so what he brings to the team is the ability to put someone over the line.

Don't know if you saw the bunnies game on the weekend, one of their tries was from lovely hands in the backline with jennings finding the line in the corner. I thought to myself "why can't we break down passive defense like this?" The answer is we have been a ball player short, and we saw with Nofo's try that we can actually score a try from a backline movement, without the need for a miracle pass from benji or brooks.

Mbye has a similar skill set, and probably makes less bad decisions, so I'm not blindly defending Tui. Just trying to offer some perspective as to why I think we need him wearing the 1 for now. Thomson on the wing showed you still get the best out of him, so proud of this guy, but he doesn't have the passing game of a 2018 fullback imo.

Well said, OMT.

x3

 

[old_man_tiger]

Sets up match winning trys, undefeated with him in the team this year.

If you think he was impressive yesterday you have very low standards.

I didn't think he was impressive, not even solid, however his actions in the opposition 20 led to points. We were so dominant and didn't score, so what he brings to the team is the ability to put someone over the line.

Don't know if you saw the bunnies game on the weekend, one of their tries was from lovely hands in the backline with jennings finding the line in the corner. I thought to myself "why can't we break down passive defense like this?" The answer is we have been a ball player short, and we saw with Nofo's try that we can actually score a try from a backline movement, without the need for a miracle pass from benji or brooks.

Mbye has a similar skill set, and probably makes less bad decisions, so I'm not blindly defending Tui. Just trying to offer some perspective as to why I think we need him wearing the 1 for now. Thomson on the wing showed you still get the best out of him, so proud of this guy, but he doesn't have the passing game of a 2018 fullback imo.

Agree, though overall I would give Tui a solid rating. And go further than just alleviation of the need for miracles from our halves, as he takes eyes not only off them, but the back rowers and centres each side of them. Basically, he changes the dynamic of the opposition defensive line, even if he doesn't touch the ball, something that, despite his energetic contribution, Thompson simply cannot provide. Thompson's finishing on the wing has always been sublime as well, so for mine the team balance just works better with both on the paddock.

Yes, good point he takes pressure and attention off the others.

If Mbye is for 2019 than Tui has a chance to make himself untouchable and put reynolds or mbye in the 4, 9 or 14\. That's all he can ask for really.

 

[bp_tiger]

maybe we are looking at the MYBE signing in the wrong light, maybe IVAN is looking at bringing him over as a hooker, now would that not be a chance.

 

[swag_tiger]

You have very specific types of players you want the Tigers to target.

Mbye fits the bill quite nicely. Not a superstar, but he is improving at fullback and he has a decent football brain, not to mention commonsense. The next step up from Mbye for me was RTS. Different player, but he is respected by his peers despite his young age.

Seens like you have been doing some research.

What are you swaggy, an online psych-profiling bot?

No I'm a 18 year old man who has TAFE to go to.

 

[weststigerman]

the undefeated with Lolohea in the team is funny..

Keep picking him Ivan I'm sure we will go the rest of the season undefeated..

Unless circumstances have changed Mbye is for 2019..so lucky we have Lolohea..the lucky charm..

Reminds me of the theory of us being undefeated with Moltzen at halfback a few years ago.

 

[swag_tiger]

maybe we are looking at the MYBE signing in the wrong light, maybe IVAN is looking at bringing him over as a hooker, now would that not be a chance.

Points for originality.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Mbye fits the bill quite nicely. Not a superstar, but he is improving at fullback and he has a decent football brain, not to mention commonsense. The next step up from Mbye for me was RTS. Different player, but he is respected by his peers despite his young age.

Seens like you have been doing some research.

What are you swaggy, an online psych-profiling bot?

No I'm a 18 year old man who has TAFE to go to.

Lighten up champion.

 

[Nelson]

Is anyone a little nervous about this signing?

Don’t get me wrong I think he’s got a lot of potential and talent. He’s got plenty of speed, footwork and his time in the halves has benefited his passing and kicking game. He also seems to have a good attitude and head on his shoulders.

I just can’t get my around is he better then Tui or Thompson? All have similar traits to their game and are fairly similar players. All are also pretty untested at fullback.

Tui probably has a bit more x-factor than Thompson, but Thompson is ever improving and has been safe as a bank at fullback. Thompson just lacks that passing game in the backline that modern day fullbacks need.

Unless Tigers have picked Mbye up for about $500k per year then I really can’t really see the value or think he will make much difference then our current options. He might be a slightly better player than Tui and Thompson, but is Mbye going to be a real game breaker for us in comparison?

Can you describe what Tui's X factor is?
Im not being sarcastic mate i just struggle to see what his special attributes are.

I too would be interested to know.

Watch the extended highlights and note how often he features in our attack…

2:06: He's chasing through with Brooks on the Marshall kick
2:14 His quick hands under pressure put Fonua into space
3:39 He's supporting Lawrence on the inside following the linebreak
4:04 Throws the cut out ball to put Nofo into space
5:13 Sweeps and draws and passes to create a 2 on 1
6:34 Pushes up to be the only one supporting the Marsters line break
6:40 Continues to follow the play to present an offload option for Fonua
6:51 Kicks into space to set up the match winning try

He has good instincts and knows when something's on in attack and he's prepared to chance his hand a little and back his instincts. Even in a game where he didn't play great overall he came up with some critical involvements - that's his x-factor, he just makes things happen.

 

[tonza]

I too would be interested to know.

Sets up match winning trys, undefeated with him in the team this year.

He has the ability to win games but he makes me nervous defensively at fullback.

I think Tuis best position would be a utility if Benji hangs up the boots but unsure if he could play hooker. Could bring him on when Liddle goes off and move Reynolds to hooker and Tui to 5/8.

I'd say once Mbye is around and Benji is gone, he'll be the bench utility, Could be an option in the centres.

I dont think Ivan is looking at Mbye as a direct replacement for Tui at all. He can cover hooker, half, five eight, centre and fullback. A injury free Tui will surprise a lot of people.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

I didn't think he was impressive, not even solid, however his actions in the opposition 20 led to points. We were so dominant and didn't score, so what he brings to the team is the ability to put someone over the line.

Don't know if you saw the bunnies game on the weekend, one of their tries was from lovely hands in the backline with jennings finding the line in the corner. I thought to myself "why can't we break down passive defense like this?" The answer is we have been a ball player short, and we saw with Nofo's try that we can actually score a try from a backline movement, without the need for a miracle pass from benji or brooks.

Mbye has a similar skill set, and probably makes less bad decisions, so I'm not blindly defending Tui. Just trying to offer some perspective as to why I think we need him wearing the 1 for now. Thomson on the wing showed you still get the best out of him, so proud of this guy, but he doesn't have the passing game of a 2018 fullback imo.

Well said, OMT.

Yeah definitely well said. Just a point of interest though, you say that Thompson doesn’t have the passing game of a 2018 fullback but neither does Tedesco! Yet he is NSW fullback rated one of the best in the game. He is certainly no playmaker and I really don’t see why the fullback has to be. I know it gives teams another option but if the halves and hooker are good at what they do all we really need is a fullback with speed and good positional play, backing up when needed. And I think we already have that with Thompson.

 

[NT_Tiger]

If you think he was impressive yesterday you have very low standards.

The thing is, i can acknowlwdge the deficincies in his game, like the howler where he dropped the ball before HT. You and his other critics can't say anything positive about him, even when he wins us games like in round 1\. Instead, when he set up the match winning try and kicks the goal from the sideline, the response was "he missed one from in front earlier so it doesn't matter". Can only imagine the crap he'd have copped if hs missed the penalty shot Matsters did last night. Marsters doesn't even cop half the crap the Tui did when he kicked, and Marsters is twice as bad as a kicker that Tui is. I **haven't seen a vandetta this bad on the forum since JT**. People just hate him, and find it highly offensive when its suggested he recieve credit for anything.

See GNR, the problem is simple, Brooks and Lawrence are both playing really well so the experts have to find a new kicking boy.

So the criticism stopped when they started playing well? Funny that.

Or so the experts say.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Sets up match winning trys, undefeated with him in the team this year.

If you think he was impressive yesterday you have very low standards.

I didn't think he was impressive, not even solid, however his actions in the opposition 20 led to points. We were so dominant and didn't score, so what he brings to the team is the ability to put someone over the line.

Don't know if you saw the bunnies game on the weekend, one of their tries was from lovely hands in the backline with jennings finding the line in the corner. I thought to myself "why can't we break down passive defense like this?" The answer is we have been a ball player short, and we saw with Nofo's try that we can actually score a try from a backline movement, without the need for a miracle pass from benji or brooks.

Mbye has a similar skill set, and probably makes less bad decisions, so I'm not blindly defending Tui. Just trying to offer some perspective as to why I think we need him wearing the 1 for now. Thomson on the wing showed you still get the best out of him, so proud of this guy, but he doesn't have the passing game of a 2018 fullback imo.

Agree, though overall I would give Tui a solid rating. And go further than just alleviation of the need for miracles from our halves, as he takes eyes not only off them, but the back rowers and centres each side of them. Basically, he changes the dynamic of the opposition defensive line, even if he doesn't touch the ball, something that, despite his energetic contribution, Thompson simply cannot provide. Thompson's finishing on the wing has always been sublime as well, so for mine the team balance just works better with both on the paddock.

I agree