OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou

@boonboon said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405924) said:
Anyone ever consider that a bloke who was so successful at Panther and Cowboys but struggles here that perhaps it isnt the player thats the problem

Agreed. I noticed in the first 20 mins he was leading the line in defence. Problem is he was always a couple of metres in front of his teammates which opened up space.
 
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

Is it tactics or just the players that are being picked. I think we can't have Tamou/Twal in the starting team. Twal at best should be lock with 2 guys rotating and going crazy.

We are getting rolled until our reserves come into the game.
 
Can we get return him for some money back with the Panthers?

Remember when we were trying to sign Tim Mannah....
Missed out and ended up with this guy.

What, no good, younger, not semi retired props were available?
 
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405930) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We gained ascendency in the middle when we had Stef, Mikaele and Offa on the field all at the same time.


No more of this Leadership crap, just plug the middles with powerful, tackle busting forwards.

Exactly. This leadership nonsense doesn't work. Your job is to belt it up, bust tackles and belt the opposition players legally. No mistakes, smart footy, offloads if you can.
 
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405939) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

Is it tactics or just the players that are being picked. I think we can't have Tamou/Twal in the starting team. Twal at best should be lock with 2 guys rotating and going crazy.

We are getting rolled until our reserves come into the game.

Yeah, it's a pity Musgrove isn't available? Though he seems to have dropped from site?
 
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405944) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405930) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We gained ascendency in the middle when we had Stef, Mikaele and Offa on the field all at the same time.


No more of this Leadership crap, just plug the middles with powerful, tackle busting forwards.

Exactly. This leadership nonsense doesn't work. Your job is to belt it up, bust tackles and belt the opposition players legally. No mistakes, smart footy, offloads if you can.

I also don’t know what it takes for Madge to realise Luciano isn’t a starting forward. Heavily exposed yet again today, but I guess there’s another thread for that
 
I paid more attention to JT today because I believe, he as an individual cops a lot of unnecessary flak. I understand why people complain about his go forward at times, but, this guy works his butt off in defence for such a big man - under these new rules. Go Weststigers!
 
He was horrible today, probably his worst match and I'm glad he didn't get back in the game. He's got cement feet at the moment. He shows effort in defense but he's so gentle in his tackling and has very little impact. Tackles he was involved in resulted in quickplay the balls and messy marker defense. I thought there was a noticeable improvement when he went off. His lateral movement is bad and he was being targeted. He's rubbish at gaining metres in attack but to his credit he doesn't end up on his back often.

Basically the forward pack should be ashamed of their effort today. So little intent. That's not all Tamou's fault but you want your leader to be able to lift your side with a big hit-up or tackle, and Tamou isn't capable of that.
 
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405976) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405944) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405930) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We gained ascendency in the middle when we had Stef, Mikaele and Offa on the field all at the same time.


No more of this Leadership crap, just plug the middles with powerful, tackle busting forwards.

Exactly. This leadership nonsense doesn't work. Your job is to belt it up, bust tackles and belt the opposition players legally. No mistakes, smart footy, offloads if you can.

I also don’t know what it takes for Madge to realise Luciano isn’t a starting forward. Heavily exposed yet again today, but I guess there’s another thread for that

I have no problems with Luc but he needs a spell. So does Liddle. Maybe Luc can be our 13 but honestly he is one of the only players we have who actually does something.
 
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406491) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405976) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405944) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405930) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We gained ascendency in the middle when we had Stef, Mikaele and Offa on the field all at the same time.


No more of this Leadership crap, just plug the middles with powerful, tackle busting forwards.

Exactly. This leadership nonsense doesn't work. Your job is to belt it up, bust tackles and belt the opposition players legally. No mistakes, smart footy, offloads if you can.

I also don’t know what it takes for Madge to realise Luciano isn’t a starting forward. Heavily exposed yet again today, but I guess there’s another thread for that

I have no problems with Luc but he needs a spell. So does Liddle. Maybe Luc can be our 13 but honestly he is one of the only players we have who actually does something.

Luc can’t defend ..too slow
 
@hobbo1 said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406502) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406491) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405976) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405944) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405930) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We gained ascendency in the middle when we had Stef, Mikaele and Offa on the field all at the same time.


No more of this Leadership crap, just plug the middles with powerful, tackle busting forwards.

Exactly. This leadership nonsense doesn't work. Your job is to belt it up, bust tackles and belt the opposition players legally. No mistakes, smart footy, offloads if you can.

I also don’t know what it takes for Madge to realise Luciano isn’t a starting forward. Heavily exposed yet again today, but I guess there’s another thread for that

I have no problems with Luc but he needs a spell. So does Liddle. Maybe Luc can be our 13 but honestly he is one of the only players we have who actually does something.

Luc can’t defend ..too slow

Play him in the middle then. Give him less minutes. Surely we can get value out of him. He is one of the only guys who create stuff for us.
 
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406505) said:
@hobbo1 said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406502) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406491) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405976) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405944) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405930) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We gained ascendency in the middle when we had Stef, Mikaele and Offa on the field all at the same time.


No more of this Leadership crap, just plug the middles with powerful, tackle busting forwards.

Exactly. This leadership nonsense doesn't work. Your job is to belt it up, bust tackles and belt the opposition players legally. No mistakes, smart footy, offloads if you can.

I also don’t know what it takes for Madge to realise Luciano isn’t a starting forward. Heavily exposed yet again today, but I guess there’s another thread for that

I have no problems with Luc but he needs a spell. So does Liddle. Maybe Luc can be our 13 but honestly he is one of the only players we have who actually does something.

Luc can’t defend ..too slow

Play him in the middle then. Give him less minutes. Surely we can get value out of him. He is one of the only guys who create stuff for us.

Talk to Madge ..
 
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405930) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We gained ascendency in the middle when we had Stef, Mikaele and Offa on the field all at the same time.


No more of this Leadership crap, just plug the middles with powerful, tackle busting forwards.

?
 
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We had 12 offloads
 
I think someone posted earlier re: Tamou pushing up hard in defense. Why was no one else following him. He is our leader, he must force the team to push up quick with him. Its ultimatum time. If these fools won't follow the plan or start wanting to win the game, then get the hell out. James hasn't been fantastic by any means but he does push up hard in defense and its so critical in the game now. Our team just never seems to want to do it and I think its because they couldn't give a crap and they have no heart. They are lazy slobs atm.
 
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406505) said:
@hobbo1 said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406502) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406491) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405976) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405944) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405930) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We gained ascendency in the middle when we had Stef, Mikaele and Offa on the field all at the same time.


No more of this Leadership crap, just plug the middles with powerful, tackle busting forwards.

Exactly. This leadership nonsense doesn't work. Your job is to belt it up, bust tackles and belt the opposition players legally. No mistakes, smart footy, offloads if you can.

I also don’t know what it takes for Madge to realise Luciano isn’t a starting forward. Heavily exposed yet again today, but I guess there’s another thread for that

I have no problems with Luc but he needs a spell. So does Liddle. Maybe Luc can be our 13 but honestly he is one of the only players we have who actually does something.

Luc can’t defend ..too slow

Play him in the middle then. Give him less minutes. Surely we can get value out of him. He is one of the only guys who create stuff for us.

Luc is playing busted .
 
@tigers79 said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406762) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406505) said:
@hobbo1 said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406502) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406491) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405976) said:
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405944) said:
@speed2burn said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405930) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We gained ascendency in the middle when we had Stef, Mikaele and Offa on the field all at the same time.


No more of this Leadership crap, just plug the middles with powerful, tackle busting forwards.

Exactly. This leadership nonsense doesn't work. Your job is to belt it up, bust tackles and belt the opposition players legally. No mistakes, smart footy, offloads if you can.

I also don’t know what it takes for Madge to realise Luciano isn’t a starting forward. Heavily exposed yet again today, but I guess there’s another thread for that

I have no problems with Luc but he needs a spell. So does Liddle. Maybe Luc can be our 13 but honestly he is one of the only players we have who actually does something.

Luc can’t defend ..too slow

Play him in the middle then. Give him less minutes. Surely we can get value out of him. He is one of the only guys who create stuff for us.

Luc is playing busted .

This is part of the problem - with the ball in hand he has a go and was our main forward to dent Souths line and make a clean line break. Defensively he's got no lateral movement and from I can see, the knee issue seems to be on the outside of his knee, which is hampering him. Still, defence is an attitude and our players have the wrong attitude in spades unfortunately.
 
Tamou needs to go back to state cup or retire. The game has passed him by. Just because you have a "c" next to your name doesnt give you a right to a first grade jersey. If you cant run the ball with some mongrel as a front rower its time to go.
 
@thedaboss said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1406629) said:
@harvey said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1405913) said:
All our forwards were sitting ducks.

It is what happens when players run one out with no support any no other players in motion.

They are telegraphing who is getting the ball and the opposition can send 4 defenders at them.

No offloads. Predictable. Madgeball!!

We had 12 offloads

4 of them on one play where we lost ground.
 
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