One home ground

[gallagher]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Imo Leichardt should be played once a year on heritage round

 

[gallagher]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Imo Leichardt should be played once a year on heritage round

Just not round 26?

I'd have it as our first home game every year.

 

[hobbo1]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen 😂

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes 😂

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

 

[Tiger5150]

From 2014:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/home-truths-why-playing-at-big-venues-pays-off-for-sydney-clubs-20140426-zr05p.html#ixzz31MVgn900

WESTS TIGERS – Leichhardt Oval, Campbelltown Sports Stadium, ANZ Stadium



LEICHHARDT OVAL

Capacity: 20,000

Expenditure: Operational costs: $65,000 (Ground rental, hiring of the big screen, ushers, security, police, cleaning and waste removal).

Revenue

Ticket sales: $200,000 for a sell-out crowd at Leichhardt Oval. There is a budgeted difference in average ticket price between Leichhardt and Campbelltown, with about a $4-a-head higher return at Leichhardt. Undercover seats at the Leichhardt ground are scarce, therefore the higher premium charge.

Corporate: $55,000 (capacity of 550 at approximately $100 a head)

Merchandise: Roughly worth $1.20 to $1.50 a head ($35,000 in round five)

Signage: Only one stand for signage opportunity not in television range.

Average crowd: 14,279 for the past three seasons (five of the past 13games against Sydney teams).





CAMPBELLTOWN SPORTS STADIUM

Capacity: 20,000

Expenditure: Operational costs: $70,000 (ground rental, hiring of the big screen, ushers, security, police, cleaning and waste removal).

Revenue

Ticket sales: $170,000 for a sell-out crowd at Campelltown.

Merchandise: Roughly worth $1.20 to $1.50 per head ($16,000 in round six for a crowd of just more than 6000)

Corporate: $47,000 (capacity of 470 at appx $100 a head)

Signage: Greatest opportunity for signage sales of all three venues because the club has 100 per cent inventory. However, appeal is lower because games are rarely on free-to-air television.

Average crowd: 13,256 for the past three years. (Six of the past 13games against Sydney teams)





ANZ STADIUM

Capacity: 82,000

Expenditure – Operational costs: $10,000-$15,000

Revenue

ANZ Stadium: In excess of $125,000 average guarantee.

Ticket sales: $0 (ANZ Stadium receive the money from ticket sales. There is a profit-share agreement in place for when all operational costs, including gate receipts, are met. This is an incentive for the club and venue to maximise crowds and receive an equal split.)

Merchandise: Budget for $1.50 a person, with average crowd attendances budgeted for 22,000 a game. On Easter Monday, as the away team, the club sold $16,000 worth of merchandise outside the stadium. The club was not entitled to merchandise rights at the ANZ Stadium and had to sell outside the ground).

Corporate: Estimated $70,000 (maximum capacity in excess of 1000)

Signage: Shared inventory for big screen and signage.

Average crowd: This is the first year of a new deal at ANZ Stadium. The Tigers averaged 18,018 at Allianz Stadium (one game at the SCG) during the past three years. Ten of the 12 games were against Sydney teams, the other two were against the Broncos. Their only home game at ANZ Stadium this year attracted 20,061.

Wests Tigers: The Tigers played some games at ANZ Stadium between 2005 and 2008, but in 2009 the club’s former administration signed a deal with Allianz Stadium to play four games a year at the venue. The club decided against extending its stay in the city despite being offered $100,000 a game to play at Allianz Stadium.

They are now in the first year of a 10-year deal with ANZ Stadium worth close to $500,000 for four games with the potential to play up to six games a year. The club put up an online poll before moving to ANZ Stadium, with 51per cent of fans voting in favour of the Olympic Park venue compared with 49 per cent at Allianz. However, the club believes it has more of a connection with the west rather than the city, plus it provides an opportunity to offer cheaper entry-level memberships worth $50 for eight games at ANZ Stadium (four home games and four away games with reciprocal membership rights). They now work in partnership with ANZ Stadium to promote the game, whereas at Leichhardt and Campbelltown they are the sole promoters.

‘‘The more games played at ANZ Stadium, the more leverage the game and the venue has with state and federal government to consistently upgrade and develop not only the facility but the precinct to provide customers an improved match-day experience,’’ Tigers chief executive Grant Mayer said. While some details of the finances of each club are private and confidential, Mayer believes sharing this information is beneficial for the game to drive greater commercial benefits for each club.

‘‘If the clubs pooled resources and negotiated as one, then our buying power is magnified exponentially and that increases the commercial return for the clubs,’’ Mayer said.


Its a false comparison and pretty much reinforces the case to play at Leichhardt and Campbelltown.

The $125,000 "average guarantee" (I believe it is closer to $100K now) is based on playing smaller crowds (that ANZ would LOSE money on) at Leichhardt and Campbelltown. What do you think would happen to that "average guarantee" if you said to ANZ (Stadiums NSW), "yeah but we also want to play another 6 games at your place, but you will lose money on each of them"? The guarentee would go down, naturally. Its business.

Seriously dont see why its an issue. The current situation works well for all parties and we wouldnt win a single extra game if we played all of our games out of ANZ.

South's and the dogs have played most their games there for years. Roosters at SFS, donkeys at Suncorp It works.


Does that mean it cant be done better? Do you think that if Redfern and Belmore met NRL specs they wouldnt take NQ or Titans games there if they could make money and keep fans happy?

Dogs have been taking 1 game a year to Belmore, not last year though, 1 game a year be ok.

Dogs havent played at Belmore since 2016 when they played 3 games there including against NQ. They cant play there anymore because it doesnt meet NRL requirements. If they could, they would, same reason as us.


I don't see the cowboys taking games to dairy farmers.

What is the correlation with Wests Tigers?

The shiny new stadium at NQ is the same as BankWest and Stadium NSW is happy to for us to play there, and they will pay us $100K as long as we dont play low drawing games there, or it will be less.

Is it that hard to work out?

Dogs played there in 2019 and are actually playing us there this year.
Its not too hard to work out.


I was unaware of that and it obviously disproves what I thought about Belmore meeting criteria.

Why do you think Bulldogs are doing that?

Well the council gave them millions a few years ago for their training facilities so I reckon taking games back there was part of that deal. That put it back from three to one have though.
And having said that, it makes the dogs another team that uses three grounds in the one city. I'm not sure we are in good company.

10 of the 16 NRL teams are using more than one home ground in 2021 (not including magic round, COVID measures or Warriors)....but yeah Tigers suck and its not possible to win or be successful unless you have one home ground.

 

[Tiger5150]

From 2014:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/home-truths-why-playing-at-big-venues-pays-off-for-sydney-clubs-20140426-zr05p.html#ixzz31MVgn900

WESTS TIGERS – Leichhardt Oval, Campbelltown Sports Stadium, ANZ Stadium



LEICHHARDT OVAL

Capacity: 20,000

Expenditure: Operational costs: $65,000 (Ground rental, hiring of the big screen, ushers, security, police, cleaning and waste removal).

Revenue

Ticket sales: $200,000 for a sell-out crowd at Leichhardt Oval. There is a budgeted difference in average ticket price between Leichhardt and Campbelltown, with about a $4-a-head higher return at Leichhardt. Undercover seats at the Leichhardt ground are scarce, therefore the higher premium charge.

Corporate: $55,000 (capacity of 550 at approximately $100 a head)

Merchandise: Roughly worth $1.20 to $1.50 a head ($35,000 in round five)

Signage: Only one stand for signage opportunity not in television range.

Average crowd: 14,279 for the past three seasons (five of the past 13games against Sydney teams).





CAMPBELLTOWN SPORTS STADIUM

Capacity: 20,000

Expenditure: Operational costs: $70,000 (ground rental, hiring of the big screen, ushers, security, police, cleaning and waste removal).

Revenue

Ticket sales: $170,000 for a sell-out crowd at Campelltown.

Merchandise: Roughly worth $1.20 to $1.50 per head ($16,000 in round six for a crowd of just more than 6000)

Corporate: $47,000 (capacity of 470 at appx $100 a head)

Signage: Greatest opportunity for signage sales of all three venues because the club has 100 per cent inventory. However, appeal is lower because games are rarely on free-to-air television.

Average crowd: 13,256 for the past three years. (Six of the past 13games against Sydney teams)





ANZ STADIUM

Capacity: 82,000

Expenditure – Operational costs: $10,000-$15,000

Revenue

ANZ Stadium: In excess of $125,000 average guarantee.

Ticket sales: $0 (ANZ Stadium receive the money from ticket sales. There is a profit-share agreement in place for when all operational costs, including gate receipts, are met. This is an incentive for the club and venue to maximise crowds and receive an equal split.)

Merchandise: Budget for $1.50 a person, with average crowd attendances budgeted for 22,000 a game. On Easter Monday, as the away team, the club sold $16,000 worth of merchandise outside the stadium. The club was not entitled to merchandise rights at the ANZ Stadium and had to sell outside the ground).

Corporate: Estimated $70,000 (maximum capacity in excess of 1000)

Signage: Shared inventory for big screen and signage.

Average crowd: This is the first year of a new deal at ANZ Stadium. The Tigers averaged 18,018 at Allianz Stadium (one game at the SCG) during the past three years. Ten of the 12 games were against Sydney teams, the other two were against the Broncos. Their only home game at ANZ Stadium this year attracted 20,061.

Wests Tigers: The Tigers played some games at ANZ Stadium between 2005 and 2008, but in 2009 the club’s former administration signed a deal with Allianz Stadium to play four games a year at the venue. The club decided against extending its stay in the city despite being offered $100,000 a game to play at Allianz Stadium.

They are now in the first year of a 10-year deal with ANZ Stadium worth close to $500,000 for four games with the potential to play up to six games a year. The club put up an online poll before moving to ANZ Stadium, with 51per cent of fans voting in favour of the Olympic Park venue compared with 49 per cent at Allianz. However, the club believes it has more of a connection with the west rather than the city, plus it provides an opportunity to offer cheaper entry-level memberships worth $50 for eight games at ANZ Stadium (four home games and four away games with reciprocal membership rights). They now work in partnership with ANZ Stadium to promote the game, whereas at Leichhardt and Campbelltown they are the sole promoters.

‘‘The more games played at ANZ Stadium, the more leverage the game and the venue has with state and federal government to consistently upgrade and develop not only the facility but the precinct to provide customers an improved match-day experience,’’ Tigers chief executive Grant Mayer said. While some details of the finances of each club are private and confidential, Mayer believes sharing this information is beneficial for the game to drive greater commercial benefits for each club.

‘‘If the clubs pooled resources and negotiated as one, then our buying power is magnified exponentially and that increases the commercial return for the clubs,’’ Mayer said.


Its a false comparison and pretty much reinforces the case to play at Leichhardt and Campbelltown.

The $125,000 "average guarantee" (I believe it is closer to $100K now) is based on playing smaller crowds (that ANZ would LOSE money on) at Leichhardt and Campbelltown. What do you think would happen to that "average guarantee" if you said to ANZ (Stadiums NSW), "yeah but we also want to play another 6 games at your place, but you will lose money on each of them"? The guarentee would go down, naturally. Its business.

Seriously dont see why its an issue. The current situation works well for all parties and we wouldnt win a single extra game if we played all of our games out of ANZ.

South's and the dogs have played most their games there for years. Roosters at SFS, donkeys at Suncorp It works.


Does that mean it cant be done better? Do you think that if Redfern and Belmore met NRL specs they wouldnt take NQ or Titans games there if they could make money and keep fans happy?

Dogs have been taking 1 game a year to Belmore, not last year though, 1 game a year be ok.

Dogs havent played at Belmore since 2016 when they played 3 games there including against NQ. They cant play there anymore because it doesnt meet NRL requirements. If they could, they would, same reason as us.


I don't see the cowboys taking games to dairy farmers.

What is the correlation with Wests Tigers?

The shiny new stadium at NQ is the same as BankWest and Stadium NSW is happy to for us to play there, and they will pay us $100K as long as we dont play low drawing games there, or it will be less.

Is it that hard to work out?

Dogs played there in 2019 and are actually playing us there this year.
Its not too hard to work out.


I was unaware of that and it obviously disproves what I thought about Belmore meeting criteria.

Why do you think Bulldogs are doing that?

***Well the council gave them millions a few years ago*** for their training facilities so I reckon taking games back there was part of that deal. That put it back from three to one have though.
And having said that, it makes the dogs another team that uses three grounds in the one city. I'm not sure we are in good company.

Council own Belmore Oval.

 

[gallagher]

From 2014:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/home-truths-why-playing-at-big-venues-pays-off-for-sydney-clubs-20140426-zr05p.html#ixzz31MVgn900

WESTS TIGERS – Leichhardt Oval, Campbelltown Sports Stadium, ANZ Stadium



LEICHHARDT OVAL

Capacity: 20,000

Expenditure: Operational costs: $65,000 (Ground rental, hiring of the big screen, ushers, security, police, cleaning and waste removal).

Revenue

Ticket sales: $200,000 for a sell-out crowd at Leichhardt Oval. There is a budgeted difference in average ticket price between Leichhardt and Campbelltown, with about a $4-a-head higher return at Leichhardt. Undercover seats at the Leichhardt ground are scarce, therefore the higher premium charge.

Corporate: $55,000 (capacity of 550 at approximately $100 a head)

Merchandise: Roughly worth $1.20 to $1.50 a head ($35,000 in round five)

Signage: Only one stand for signage opportunity not in television range.

Average crowd: 14,279 for the past three seasons (five of the past 13games against Sydney teams).





CAMPBELLTOWN SPORTS STADIUM

Capacity: 20,000

Expenditure: Operational costs: $70,000 (ground rental, hiring of the big screen, ushers, security, police, cleaning and waste removal).

Revenue

Ticket sales: $170,000 for a sell-out crowd at Campelltown.

Merchandise: Roughly worth $1.20 to $1.50 per head ($16,000 in round six for a crowd of just more than 6000)

Corporate: $47,000 (capacity of 470 at appx $100 a head)

Signage: Greatest opportunity for signage sales of all three venues because the club has 100 per cent inventory. However, appeal is lower because games are rarely on free-to-air television.

Average crowd: 13,256 for the past three years. (Six of the past 13games against Sydney teams)





ANZ STADIUM

Capacity: 82,000

Expenditure – Operational costs: $10,000-$15,000

Revenue

ANZ Stadium: In excess of $125,000 average guarantee.

Ticket sales: $0 (ANZ Stadium receive the money from ticket sales. There is a profit-share agreement in place for when all operational costs, including gate receipts, are met. This is an incentive for the club and venue to maximise crowds and receive an equal split.)

Merchandise: Budget for $1.50 a person, with average crowd attendances budgeted for 22,000 a game. On Easter Monday, as the away team, the club sold $16,000 worth of merchandise outside the stadium. The club was not entitled to merchandise rights at the ANZ Stadium and had to sell outside the ground).

Corporate: Estimated $70,000 (maximum capacity in excess of 1000)

Signage: Shared inventory for big screen and signage.

Average crowd: This is the first year of a new deal at ANZ Stadium. The Tigers averaged 18,018 at Allianz Stadium (one game at the SCG) during the past three years. Ten of the 12 games were against Sydney teams, the other two were against the Broncos. Their only home game at ANZ Stadium this year attracted 20,061.

Wests Tigers: The Tigers played some games at ANZ Stadium between 2005 and 2008, but in 2009 the club’s former administration signed a deal with Allianz Stadium to play four games a year at the venue. The club decided against extending its stay in the city despite being offered $100,000 a game to play at Allianz Stadium.

They are now in the first year of a 10-year deal with ANZ Stadium worth close to $500,000 for four games with the potential to play up to six games a year. The club put up an online poll before moving to ANZ Stadium, with 51per cent of fans voting in favour of the Olympic Park venue compared with 49 per cent at Allianz. However, the club believes it has more of a connection with the west rather than the city, plus it provides an opportunity to offer cheaper entry-level memberships worth $50 for eight games at ANZ Stadium (four home games and four away games with reciprocal membership rights). They now work in partnership with ANZ Stadium to promote the game, whereas at Leichhardt and Campbelltown they are the sole promoters.

‘‘The more games played at ANZ Stadium, the more leverage the game and the venue has with state and federal government to consistently upgrade and develop not only the facility but the precinct to provide customers an improved match-day experience,’’ Tigers chief executive Grant Mayer said. While some details of the finances of each club are private and confidential, Mayer believes sharing this information is beneficial for the game to drive greater commercial benefits for each club.

‘‘If the clubs pooled resources and negotiated as one, then our buying power is magnified exponentially and that increases the commercial return for the clubs,’’ Mayer said.


Its a false comparison and pretty much reinforces the case to play at Leichhardt and Campbelltown.

The $125,000 "average guarantee" (I believe it is closer to $100K now) is based on playing smaller crowds (that ANZ would LOSE money on) at Leichhardt and Campbelltown. What do you think would happen to that "average guarantee" if you said to ANZ (Stadiums NSW), "yeah but we also want to play another 6 games at your place, but you will lose money on each of them"? The guarentee would go down, naturally. Its business.

Seriously dont see why its an issue. The current situation works well for all parties and we wouldnt win a single extra game if we played all of our games out of ANZ.

South's and the dogs have played most their games there for years. Roosters at SFS, donkeys at Suncorp It works.


Does that mean it cant be done better? Do you think that if Redfern and Belmore met NRL specs they wouldnt take NQ or Titans games there if they could make money and keep fans happy?

Dogs have been taking 1 game a year to Belmore, not last year though, 1 game a year be ok.

Dogs havent played at Belmore since 2016 when they played 3 games there including against NQ. They cant play there anymore because it doesnt meet NRL requirements. If they could, they would, same reason as us.


I don't see the cowboys taking games to dairy farmers.

What is the correlation with Wests Tigers?

The shiny new stadium at NQ is the same as BankWest and Stadium NSW is happy to for us to play there, and they will pay us $100K as long as we dont play low drawing games there, or it will be less.

Is it that hard to work out?

Dogs played there in 2019 and are actually playing us there this year.
Its not too hard to work out.


I was unaware of that and it obviously disproves what I thought about Belmore meeting criteria.

Why do you think Bulldogs are doing that?

***Well the council gave them millions a few years ago*** for their training facilities so I reckon taking games back there was part of that deal. That put it back from three to one have though.
And having said that, it makes the dogs another team that uses three grounds in the one city. I'm not sure we are in good company.

Council own Belmore Oval.

Got my wording wrong. They spent millions on a training facility for the dogs.

 

[mike]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.

 

[Tiger5150]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.

Why is it do you think that the Club offers LO and CSS ONLY memberships and what would happen to those members?

 

[gallagher]

From 2014:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/home-truths-why-playing-at-big-venues-pays-off-for-sydney-clubs-20140426-zr05p.html#ixzz31MVgn900

WESTS TIGERS – Leichhardt Oval, Campbelltown Sports Stadium, ANZ Stadium



LEICHHARDT OVAL

Capacity: 20,000

Expenditure: Operational costs: $65,000 (Ground rental, hiring of the big screen, ushers, security, police, cleaning and waste removal).

Revenue

Ticket sales: $200,000 for a sell-out crowd at Leichhardt Oval. There is a budgeted difference in average ticket price between Leichhardt and Campbelltown, with about a $4-a-head higher return at Leichhardt. Undercover seats at the Leichhardt ground are scarce, therefore the higher premium charge.

Corporate: $55,000 (capacity of 550 at approximately $100 a head)

Merchandise: Roughly worth $1.20 to $1.50 a head ($35,000 in round five)

Signage: Only one stand for signage opportunity not in television range.

Average crowd: 14,279 for the past three seasons (five of the past 13games against Sydney teams).





CAMPBELLTOWN SPORTS STADIUM

Capacity: 20,000

Expenditure: Operational costs: $70,000 (ground rental, hiring of the big screen, ushers, security, police, cleaning and waste removal).

Revenue

Ticket sales: $170,000 for a sell-out crowd at Campelltown.

Merchandise: Roughly worth $1.20 to $1.50 per head ($16,000 in round six for a crowd of just more than 6000)

Corporate: $47,000 (capacity of 470 at appx $100 a head)

Signage: Greatest opportunity for signage sales of all three venues because the club has 100 per cent inventory. However, appeal is lower because games are rarely on free-to-air television.

Average crowd: 13,256 for the past three years. (Six of the past 13games against Sydney teams)





ANZ STADIUM

Capacity: 82,000

Expenditure – Operational costs: $10,000-$15,000

Revenue

ANZ Stadium: In excess of $125,000 average guarantee.

Ticket sales: $0 (ANZ Stadium receive the money from ticket sales. There is a profit-share agreement in place for when all operational costs, including gate receipts, are met. This is an incentive for the club and venue to maximise crowds and receive an equal split.)

Merchandise: Budget for $1.50 a person, with average crowd attendances budgeted for 22,000 a game. On Easter Monday, as the away team, the club sold $16,000 worth of merchandise outside the stadium. The club was not entitled to merchandise rights at the ANZ Stadium and had to sell outside the ground).

Corporate: Estimated $70,000 (maximum capacity in excess of 1000)

Signage: Shared inventory for big screen and signage.

Average crowd: This is the first year of a new deal at ANZ Stadium. The Tigers averaged 18,018 at Allianz Stadium (one game at the SCG) during the past three years. Ten of the 12 games were against Sydney teams, the other two were against the Broncos. Their only home game at ANZ Stadium this year attracted 20,061.

Wests Tigers: The Tigers played some games at ANZ Stadium between 2005 and 2008, but in 2009 the club’s former administration signed a deal with Allianz Stadium to play four games a year at the venue. The club decided against extending its stay in the city despite being offered $100,000 a game to play at Allianz Stadium.

They are now in the first year of a 10-year deal with ANZ Stadium worth close to $500,000 for four games with the potential to play up to six games a year. The club put up an online poll before moving to ANZ Stadium, with 51per cent of fans voting in favour of the Olympic Park venue compared with 49 per cent at Allianz. However, the club believes it has more of a connection with the west rather than the city, plus it provides an opportunity to offer cheaper entry-level memberships worth $50 for eight games at ANZ Stadium (four home games and four away games with reciprocal membership rights). They now work in partnership with ANZ Stadium to promote the game, whereas at Leichhardt and Campbelltown they are the sole promoters.

‘‘The more games played at ANZ Stadium, the more leverage the game and the venue has with state and federal government to consistently upgrade and develop not only the facility but the precinct to provide customers an improved match-day experience,’’ Tigers chief executive Grant Mayer said. While some details of the finances of each club are private and confidential, Mayer believes sharing this information is beneficial for the game to drive greater commercial benefits for each club.

‘‘If the clubs pooled resources and negotiated as one, then our buying power is magnified exponentially and that increases the commercial return for the clubs,’’ Mayer said.


Its a false comparison and pretty much reinforces the case to play at Leichhardt and Campbelltown.

The $125,000 "average guarantee" (I believe it is closer to $100K now) is based on playing smaller crowds (that ANZ would LOSE money on) at Leichhardt and Campbelltown. What do you think would happen to that "average guarantee" if you said to ANZ (Stadiums NSW), "yeah but we also want to play another 6 games at your place, but you will lose money on each of them"? The guarentee would go down, naturally. Its business.

Seriously dont see why its an issue. The current situation works well for all parties and we wouldnt win a single extra game if we played all of our games out of ANZ.

South's and the dogs have played most their games there for years. Roosters at SFS, donkeys at Suncorp It works.


Does that mean it cant be done better? Do you think that if Redfern and Belmore met NRL specs they wouldnt take NQ or Titans games there if they could make money and keep fans happy?

Dogs have been taking 1 game a year to Belmore, not last year though, 1 game a year be ok.

Dogs havent played at Belmore since 2016 when they played 3 games there including against NQ. They cant play there anymore because it doesnt meet NRL requirements. If they could, they would, same reason as us.


I don't see the cowboys taking games to dairy farmers.

What is the correlation with Wests Tigers?

The shiny new stadium at NQ is the same as BankWest and Stadium NSW is happy to for us to play there, and they will pay us $100K as long as we dont play low drawing games there, or it will be less.

Is it that hard to work out?

Dogs played there in 2019 and are actually playing us there this year.
Its not too hard to work out.


I was unaware of that and it obviously disproves what I thought about Belmore meeting criteria.

Why do you think Bulldogs are doing that?

Well the council gave them millions a few years ago for their training facilities so I reckon taking games back there was part of that deal. That put it back from three to one have though.
And having said that, it makes the dogs another team that uses three grounds in the one city. I'm not sure we are in good company.


10 of the 16 NRL teams are using more than one home ground in 2021 (not including magic round, COVID measures or Warriors)....but yeah Tigers suck and its not possible to win or be successful unless you have one home ground.

Do any of them play no more than 3 at any one ground?
And I never said it was impossible to win of you don't have one ground BTW.

 

[gallagher]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

8 at one ground would be better.

 

[gallagher]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.


Why is it do you think that the Club offers LO and CSS ONLY memberships and what would happen to those members?

I used to go to Lidcombe every game until they moved 45 mins away to Cambpo. Then I just went there. When you go there every second week it becomes a habit.

 

[Tiger5150]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.


Why is it do you think that the Club offers LO and CSS ONLY memberships and what would happen to those members?

I used to go to Lidcombe every game until they moved 45 mins away to Cambpo. Then I just went there. When you go there every second week it becomes a habit.

Didnt answer the question. Why do you think tha club offeres these memberships?


YOu also didnt answer these questions I asked previously



1 What is the measureable metric that you use to PROVE that it is a bad idea playing low drawing games at LO & CSS?

2 Explain to me the logic that explains how this measurable metric will be improved by one home ground at ANZ (for example).

 

[hobbo1]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.

And one day the suburban grounds will be gone and you’ll piss and moan forever how they are missed ..
Going to suburban grounds with 20k fans is what footy is all about .

 

[hobbo1]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

8 at one ground would be better.

I said either !
And it’s easy for you to whinge cause you live in WA ?

 

[gallagher]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.


Why is it do you think that the Club offers LO and CSS ONLY memberships and what would happen to those members?

I used to go to Lidcombe every game until they moved 45 mins away to Cambpo. Then I just went there. When you go there every second week it becomes a habit.


Didnt answer the question. Why do you think tha club offeres these memberships?


YOu also didnt answer these questions I asked previously



1 What is the measureable metric that you use to PROVE that it is a bad idea playing low drawing games at LO & CSS?

2 Explain to me the logic that explains how this measurable metric will be improved by one home ground at ANZ (for example).

Some fans obviously just want those memberships. Have they ever told us the breakdown of memberships?
The other two questions are too hard to understand for this old tradie.
But when I played sport the home ground was something I really prided myself on playing at

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.


Why is it do you think that the Club offers LO and CSS ONLY memberships and what would happen to those members?

I used to go to Lidcombe every game until they moved 45 mins away to Cambpo. Then I just went there. When you go there every second week it becomes a habit.


Didnt answer the question. Why do you think tha club offeres these memberships?


YOu also didnt answer these questions I asked previously



1 What is the measureable metric that you use to PROVE that it is a bad idea playing low drawing games at LO & CSS?

2 Explain to me the logic that explains how this measurable metric will be improved by one home ground at ANZ (for example).

I'd say because there are some fans that only want to go to LO or CSS because the followed Wests or Balmain or live close by.
I have no measurably metrics as I don't know what that is BUT.....
I know what it feels like to play at home, to go back home every second week. I doubt i would have ever got that feeling playing at a venue 3 times a year.

 

[hobbo1]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.


Why is it do you think that the Club offers LO and CSS ONLY memberships and what would happen to those members?

Because that’s what the punters want !

What are the membership numbers for our total grounds ?

 

[Telltails]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.

And one day the suburban grounds will be gone and you’ll piss and moan forever how they are missed ..
Going to suburban grounds with 20k fans is what footy is all about .

Yep - get really tired of people who don't like it trying to take it away from the people that do. And there are plenty of us out here - which the club just may be aware of.

 

[gallagher]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

8 at one ground would be better.

I said either !
And it’s easy for you to whinge cause you live in WA ?

I get the irony as I don't get to games. But my view is unbiased because of that.

 

[gallagher]

Lets be honest. Fans that want to play at LO or CSS are just fans of the old clubs or live close to those venues.

Foxtel $70 a month for 32 games plus I have my personal chef in the kitchen ?

Seriously though ..
I’m 80km from Leichhardt and it’s usually a great day out ..
I don’t understand the whingers that piss and moan about the facilities because they can’t hold there bladders .
Have lunch or whatever before you go ..
Piss on before you go ..
Take in pre mixed drinks or cans in your pockets ..
Relieve yourself before you go ..
The game goes for 80 friggin minutes ?

If the old girl and CSS are to see lesser games in the future I’d like to see
8 games at either ANZ or SFS
2 at Leichhardt
2 at CSS
This should please the folks that suffer from incontinence .

No just no. You want to build membership not deter membership. Facilities count, big time. You can't introduce people to third world facilities, and that's exactly what they are at LO, and expect them to be thrilled with the experience.


Why is it do you think that the Club offers LO and CSS ONLY memberships and what would happen to those members?

Because that’s what the punters want !

What are the membership numbers for our total grounds ?

Ive never seen those figures released. Would be very interesting