Our worst signing ever?

After Matt Utai

Remember the game when he forgot to try and catch a bomb put to him and he headed it away for a throw in

The Gnome did the same ….therefore he became Utai instead of Moltz until he fell over again
 
Braith, I think too he was getting very flat too. Plus he's a pampered pooch and wants Uncle Nick to rub his feet after a game with fresh notes.

Adam Blair…. It was our coaching but it was so much more then that. He played a very different role in Melbourne. The Tigers needed someone who would lead from the front while Blair was the impact player who has energizer bunnies around him like Smith, Hinchcliff, Hoffman, etc. It was Blair but it was a system shock....
It's just a shame that the team was shuffled in his way as loosing Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington really set us back.... Perhaps in that way the staff did not manage it well. We should have been fortress Tiger.

Reynolds is very different to Ballin and McQueen.
Ballin was a flat tyre we brought to try and push Farah out. Biggest mistake ever, lets just open a can of kill team spirit.
McQueen is just busted... A part of me would like to believe that his spine is healed but I read that and I am not that gullible to believe that.

Leaving Reynolds. No, Reynolds is NOT in this category.
NOPE.
Yes he had injuries, but he largely got busted while playing for us in a role he wasn't used too.
When we hired him, we just had 3 of our 4 biggest stars walk and our team was in shambles. We seriously could be how Parramatta or Canberra are now. They won't touch the top 8\. Had we not gotten Reynolds we would only have Brooks as our big name. No one would come to us unless we payed OVERS again.

Reynolds was exactly right for a ground up rebuild. Now though his leadership and team spirit is not as needed as it was at the end of 2017.
 
# Tim Moltzen on bitter end to his NRL career and toxic club culture

[Michael Carayannis](https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/journalists/michael-carayannis), The Daily Telegraph

March 9, 2019 9:00pm

***They were the lucky ones — blessed with talent, passionate and on a path that led to riches and fame. Then it all came crashing down and they had to rebuild lives that would never be the same. Michael Carayannis continues our series profiling rugby league players whose careers ended all too soon.***

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Tim Moltzen had no idea the final moment of his NRL career would involve being carted from the field at Campbelltown Stadium.

Moltzen was trying to tackle Brisbane’s Justin Hodges when he ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee on April 27, 2013.

He’d done it once before, but the 24-year-old never believed his 90th NRL match would be his last.

“No way, I would’ve laughed at you,” Moltzen says. “I would’ve said you’re kidding aren’t you? I’ve already come back from one. Nah mate. It didn’t even enter my mind.”

Moltzen had cause to be optimistic.

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Tim Moltzen was forced to retire after an horrific run of injuries. Picture: Phillip Rogers

As a 17-year-old Moltzen not only suffered a “golf-ball sized” skull fracture after trying to make a tackle, he played a week-long touch football tournament with the injury after being incorrectly diagnosed.

Doctors told him the smallest of knocks could have been fatal. He was warned off playing rugby league for a year and used his time to get fit and fine-tune his skills.

His return earned him an instant contract with the Tigers after starring for Central Coast’s under-18s SG Ball side.

But nothing could prepare Moltzen for the dramatic turn his career would take. What followed was a story of resilience, dedication and heartache put down to his love of the game.

The beginning of the end for Moltzen’s career came during December 2013 when he had started to make some in-roads into his recovery from his second knee reconstruction.

“I had kneecap pain for a while,” Moltzen says. “It was a Friday so I thought I’d see the doctor the following week. We were playing two-handed touch and as I poked my head through a gap I just heard what sounded like a branch snapping. I had tape over my knee cap and I looked down and half the knee cap was below the tape.

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Moltzen always seemed to cop a serious injury just as he was getting his career back on track. Picture: Getty

“The physio rushed out and the first thing he said was ‘f–- off’. I was like, as long as it’s not my ACL I’ll be fine.

“I just remember the ambulance officers shutting the doors and I just broke down in the ambulance as we left Concord Oval. I didn’t know what this injury meant but it was so serious.”

Moltzen showed no signs of wanting to quit. He had age on his side and a long-term deal at the Tigers gave him hope that this setback would only be a blip in a long career.

“From there it was downhill,” Moltzen says. “I had no appetite. I was lethargic. I just felt and looked like shit. I was gaunt and pale.

“I kept going back week on week to get blood tests. They kept saying nothing was wrong. I’m walking around watching the boys at Leichhardt (in 2014) with butterfly stitches on. I went to bed that night and woke up and felt like my leg was wet.

“I had white sheets and my bed was covered in blood. I looked down and the stitches had popped. It was a public holiday so I had to sit in a waiting room for hours to get re-stitched.”

The confines of a rehabilitation room rather than a football field became Moltzen’s rugby league home.

He eventually made it back onto the field – this time the final reserve grade game of the 2014 season. He says it was for his “own mental well-being”.

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Moltzen felt betrayed by his club and he code when his career ended the way it did.

“But my knee blew up straight away,” Moltzen says.

“I said to my club doctor, ‘I need to go to another knee specialist’.

“Within 10 seconds he told me I had staph and that I needed surgery tomorrow.

“They removed all the hardware out of my body from both ACLs. I’d had staph for three months. It was supposed to be a 40-minute operation. It went for three-and-a-half hours… on my 26th birthday.”

A nurse visited Moltzen every day for the next six weeks.

He had to swallow nine tablets a day.

But Moltzen still craved an NRL comeback in 2015.

He strung some reserve grade games together but his season was cut short when the AC joint in his shoulder popped out.

“I didn’t have a deal for 2016,” Moltzen says. “There was absolutely no market for me. I was disappointed in the way it ended at the Tigers. They weren’t open to a conversation about keeping me there but not even that, they didn’t even wave me goodbye or say thank you at a function. It was pathetic.

“I didn’t want to be around it. It had become a toxic environment and it was no surprise what happened in the following years. They didn’t care.”

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Tim Moltzen in action during a 2006 SG Ball match.

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Tim Moltzen in action for NSW under 16 touch football team.

After being at the centre of a tug-of-war for his services for his last contract, Moltzen faced the daunting prospect of being unwanted.

Still desperate to prove he could cut it at the top level, he reached out to Manly coach Trent Barrett ahead of the 2016 asking for one last crack.

“I went to Manly and trained my arse off,” Moltzen says. “If it wasn’t the knee it was something else. I dislocated my elbow in reserve grade then I’d come back and I couldn’t make it through a full game.

“After one game my knee was a balloon. I couldn’t bend it.

“The moment I sat down with my mates, we had a chat about how my body was feeling and what did my life look like without footy. It was then I felt I’d lost that hunger to keep going and I’d lost that spark or love for the game.

“Just before seeing them I had just come from the doctor and had six syringes full of blood and fluid drained from my knee so I guess that was another hint as to how the body was.

“Mentally I was tapped out. I’d gone through all I thought I could go through. I was looking forward to doing something new where I wasn’t worried if my body was going to let me down or if I was only going to get through half a game. That part of the game really ate me up.

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Moltzen was devastated when the NRL cancelled his participation in the farewell parade. Picture: Gregg Porteous

“I’m so relieved I don’t have to worry about that now.”

Moltzen, who has transitioned into a successful real estate career, retired midway through 2016 at 27 having not played first grade for three years.

The end was a far cry from the beginning, when Moltzen enjoyed a near dream debut in 2008.

“I didn’t expect to play so soon but Tim Sheens liked carrying a utility on the bench,” Moltzen says. “Benji (Marshall) went down in the first six minutes and I was on. I was shitting myself. We were playing in the old Magpies strip and Noel Kelly had come and spoke to us before the game about playing St George. It was full on.

“I ended up scoring a try and winning.”

Moltzen played 10 games in his first season before being earmarked to replace veteran Brett Hodgson at fullback the following season.

He fought back from his first knee injury to enjoy a breakthrough year in 2011 when he starred in the No.1 jersey and played in all 26 games for a Tigers side which eventually lost a semi-final to the Warriors.

“I started only wanting to play one game,” Moltzen says. “There were plenty of people that didn’t think I had to make it. It’s pretty cool to say that I did.

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Moltzen signed with Manly in a last-ditch effort to resurrect his career but never played a game for the Sea Eagles. Picture Gregg Porteous

“I’m proud of what I achieved.”

Moltzen was dealt one last blow by the game he first started playing as a five-year-old at Terrigal.

“I’d been invited by the NRL to the retirees’ parade on grand final day and a lunch,” Moltzen says. “I was excited about the chance to get a farewell. A few days later they rang me up and uninvited me because I hadn’t played 100 first grade games.

“People in higher places decided I hadn’t done enough in my time to earn the acknowledgement from the game I sacrificed everything for.

“To be forced into leaving something you love and have no control over that is hard. The way you get ushered out adds insult to injury. I felt like a used car.

“They are happy to put you on cards and get kids to cheer your name but when you become no use to them they spit you out pretty quick.

“When it all starts to slowly fall away there was no one to lend a hand. If I didn’t have my family or friends it might’ve been a different story.”
 
Moltzen is a hard one. On a personal level, of course he's filthy that the Tigers didn't renew him and probably gave him bugger-all send off, which hurts your ego.

But then he went to Manly and didn't play a single match because of injury and/or selection.

So from a club management position, Tigers did exactly the right thing. Moltzen was just one of those fellows with a tonne of talent, but not the physical ability to stay on healthy on the field. He's got a reputation for being a "peaheart" and I am certain that his injury toll was involved in that; but also it's not the fans' fault that you keep getting hurt and show sub-par displays.

Whenever I see a fullback refusing to contest a bomb, I always think of Tim Moltzen.
 
We were, maybe are, a basket case. We are also very resilient I think. I read that and actually don't feel for him as much as I would have a couple of years ago. He was given so many opportunities over a long period and should be happy with what he achieved. He literally might not have gotten a start without the Tiges. And when he broke his agreement with the dragqueens how was the culture then?

Going back to resilience. We've had the heart and soul of the club ripped out when we signed Blair, then knifed Sheens (which I admit had to happen), the farahgate no 1 (potter), Jason Taylor and farahgate no 2\. The big 4, simona, Cleary, salary cap dramas including farahgate no 3, a resigning chair, deregistered CEO etc…. I'm sure I've forgotten heaps. Yet we are still here with a squad and coach that can give us at least some hope.

Sorry Tim, most of us have been through hell supporting the club and remember guys like Taniela who probably has a lot less happening for himself now than you do and also never got another chance.
 
@Geo said:
They weren’t open to a conversation about keeping me there but not even that, they didn’t even wave me goodbye or say thank you at a function. It was pathetic.

“I didn’t want to be around it. It had become a toxic environment and it was no surprise what happened in the following years. They didn’t care.

We pay him for two years in reserves and he's dirty he didn't get a morning tea with cake when he left? "Toxic"is the most misused word in the world today.
 
# Tim Moltzen reveals his regret on the way he backflipped on his Dragons deal

MARCH 09, 2019

Tim Moltzen has one regret about rugby league career.

Forget the injuries that forced him into premature retirement, instead it was the contract saga in 2011 and the eventual backflip on St George Illawarra which Moltzen wishes he could change.

Moltzen dodged calls and text messages from then rookie St George Illawarra coach Steve Price, who had earmarked the Wests Tiger as the replacement for the Newcastle-bound Darius Boyd.

**BEST THERE NEVER WAS: [Read the full Tim Moltzen story on the horror injury that brought a premature end to his career](http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/tigers/tim-moltzen-on-bitter-end-to-his-nrl-career-and-toxic-club-culture/news-story/169b4b0c0380a7c11465c1f01f5f6214)**

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Tim Moltzen had agreed to play for the Dragons before backflipping on the deal.

“At the time I felt like it wasn’t my job to combat all that,” Moltzen says.

“But really it was. It was about me. I wish I had of sat down with Pricey early on when I started to have doubts. I was young and ignorant. I thought, I pay a manager I’ll let him deal with it but ethically now it doesn’t sit well with me. It was childish.

“That’s a regret not to have had an adult conversation with a guy I’d agreed to sign with.”

The vitriol from Dragons fans was intense.

Moltzen needed a security escort from his car to the ground when they clashed in 2012.

The words “Moltzen is scum” were painted on the footpath next to Kogarah Oval.

The NRL had threatened to block Moltzen from staying at the Tigers.

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Tim Moltzen dodged Steve Price’s calls. .Picture Gregg Porteous

“I said I’d sit it out if that’s what was going to happen,” Moltzen says.

“When I made the decision to leave I was being changed positions. If you fast forward to the end of the year I started playing my best footy. We had a really tight team. I felt like the group of boys we had could’ve done something.

“I was in the city getting advice from lawyers. It was a brutal time.

“I was a naïve kid, I was 22.”
 
Bit rich for him to talk about loyalty with the way he dicked the Dragons.

The guy was blessed with talent but for whatever reason, likely fear of being injuring himself again, I don't think he ever left it all out on the field.

Rugby League is not a game for guys like that.
 
It’s up there considering it caused us to lose our CEO for 6 months.

Haven’t read the thread, but has anyone mentioned Cleary?
 
Not to mention the way he ran the club down after the Farah fiasco, considering how long the club stood by him, injury after injury. Don’t have any sympathy for that ungrateful jerk.
 
Rankin has been playing ok @ Castleford, they've been going alright. Junior Moors going good 2 from what I've seen. Moltzen got crueled with injuries TBH. He's doing his thing, selling waterfronts out of Hunters Hill I believe; still loves the tigers. I rated him as a utility. Never was allowed the time 2 truly grow in sport.
 
The OP must have only watched us for a couple of years. None of those players would make our actual worst players list. Not by a long way, with McQueen the only possibility - he has this season to prove himself though.
 

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