Packer & Reynolds

@willow said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225281) said:
It seems the more professional clubs have their entire 30-31 man roster attend games - Penrith, Roosters and Souths have already been named. If that's not a WT policy, then it should be. Professionalism and discipline starts at the top, near enough is not good enough.

As for Reynolds and Packer, well if you turned up to watch the team play, disappearing at halftime is weak. Unless either one of them had a medical emergency to attend to, they should have stayed. It says more about their own mindset than anything and that's why no other club is silly enough to take them off our hands.

It's embarrassing that it should have to be made a rule, it should just be an assumption like Swordy said.
 
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@Macca0806 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224942) said:
Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...


Lmao what??? Lee says otherwise? He said he wasn’t required to attend at all, doubt he said “Show up and leave at halftime if we are losing”
 
You could compare the situation of these lads to say a Dylan Smith who probably wasn't there at all and be able to make a point that there was no obligation on their behalf.

But honestly, these 2 are in the top 3 paid guys in the team. It's very different. On that basis alone, they should be held to a higher standard than the others as leaders and that's not even considering what little value they've provided for their pay packets. The club has supported both through extensive rehab and, in Reynolds case, off-field drama.

The sooner both rack off, the sooner we can move forward.
 
@Nelson said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225286) said:
@willow said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225281) said:
It seems the more professional clubs have their entire 30-31 man roster attend games - Penrith, Roosters and Souths have already been named. If that's not a WT policy, then it should be. Professionalism and discipline starts at the top, near enough is not good enough.

As for Reynolds and Packer, well if you turned up to watch the team play, disappearing at halftime is weak. Unless either one of them had a medical emergency to attend to, they should have stayed. It says more about their own mindset than anything and that's why no other club is silly enough to take them off our hands.

It's embarrassing that it should have to be made a rule, it should just be an assumption like Swordy said.

No what’s embarrassing is we have a ‘professionally run’ club which runs on the assumption that people will abide by their own morals.
Every business in life needs guidelines and standards, if your going to question an employees conduct you need a basis/criteria of which to asses against.

The good clubs would have these standards set, but you wouldn’t here them being addressed because the senior players would be the ones leading the charge with demonstrating the standards.

We are still too wishy washy.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225280) said:
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@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225268) said:
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@Macca0806 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224942) said:
Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...

Once you are there and leave you are showing your team mates that you couldn't be bothered watching them. Its not like they had to got to any other effort to watch the second half, they didn't have to drive across the city. They just had to sit there and couldn't make the effort to do that.
 
@Nelson said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225239) said:
@Aesopian said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225211) said:
@Earl said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225179) said:
@Aesopian said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225174) said:
Did none of you mongs learn from the 'Joey walkout to Canberra' that wasn't a walkout.

This is media sensationalism and you're falling for it hook line and sinker. Maybe wait till the club has it's proper say on the matter rather than taking the word of these scummy donut head journos...

If they did in fact leave early then so be it. Everyone knows these 2 aren't in the clubs long term plans, and both have been actively shopped around all year. They're surplus to requirements.

My only disappointment is that they didn't do anything worthy of contract termination. Maybe they should of stopped by the strippos on the way back then gotten into a fight in front of a kebab shop. Only for it all to be caught on camera... can only dream of such a scenario

I don't agree with this sentiment. Sure we'd like to get rid of them. Sure the media have caused an issue.

At the same time these guys should have stayed. They are highly paid and should be doing everything they can to get into the top team.

What you and I think these guys should do is irrelevant. In the end it's just a job. Some take it more seriously than others.

Signing these 2 on long term deals has, you could say, allowed the situation to occur. Having highly paid non performing squad members is the worst possible scenario for roster management.

They know the club doesn't want them and they can't get a better deal elsewhere. They'll do the bare minimum and milk the cow for all it's worth. Can't blame them. Any person would do the same and take advantage of the situation for their benefit.

I mean, they're highly paid to run around all week and keep fit. Dream job. And I doubt the other players look to them for leadership and motivation. So, they'll just take it as seriously as they have to until their contracts are up.

Any person would do the same and take advantage of the situation? Ah no, they definitely would not. Not everyone has a crap attitude like these guys, some people actually have some self-respect and instead of kicking stones because they weren't getting picked would help out their team in whatever ways they could to justify their pay packet.

So, what do you think they should do? Forfeit their salaries and leave the club because they're not emotionally invested and have a bad attitude... Nobody would do that. They'll simply ride the pine and collect pay checks until their times are up.

I'd like to see the page in their contracts where it states they need a good attitude and self-respect to justify their pay packets. Would be a laugh to read if it existed.

And lets not start expecting these guys to be class acts and upstanding citizens. They're footy players who do it for a living. Their careers could be over in a flash, so they've gotta make the most of it while they can.
 
@cochise said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224978) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224953) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224950) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224944) said:
@Macca0806 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224942) said:
Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

The difference is $750,000 vs years of watching the same old tripe. I would never leave a work engagement early if I earnt more than the CEO.

I respect your experience in the game but your drawing an unreasonable comparison between fans and so-called professionals.

respect your opinion old man tiger,but Ivan offered Reynolds that money and he hasnt really earned it,but thats not his fault that it was offered to him...he doesnt get a look in at game time and thats up to Madge....so why wouldnt he have the carefree attitude especially that he wasnt required to be at Brooky at all....

Because that proves Madge correct for not playing him. When you are on the outer, that is the time to dig in and fight harder

He has been on the outer since he got here, he has had to play back up to Benji for 3 years, which is just plain wrong
 
@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225221) said:
@Aesopian said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225211) said:
@Earl said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225179) said:
@Aesopian said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225174) said:
Did none of you mongs learn from the 'Joey walkout to Canberra' that wasn't a walkout.

This is media sensationalism and you're falling for it hook line and sinker. Maybe wait till the club has it's proper say on the matter rather than taking the word of these scummy donut head journos...

If they did in fact leave early then so be it. Everyone knows these 2 aren't in the clubs long term plans, and both have been actively shopped around all year. They're surplus to requirements.

My only disappointment is that they didn't do anything worthy of contract termination. Maybe they should of stopped by the strippos on the way back then gotten into a fight in front of a kebab shop. Only for it all to be caught on camera... can only dream of such a scenario

I don't agree with this sentiment. Sure we'd like to get rid of them. Sure the media have caused an issue.

At the same time these guys should have stayed. They are highly paid and should be doing everything they can to get into the top team.

What you and I think these guys should do is irrelevant. In the end it's just a job. Some take it more seriously than others.

Signing these 2 on long term deals has, you could say, allowed the situation to occur. Having highly paid non performing squad members is the worst possible scenario for roster management.

They know the club doesn't want them and they can't get a better deal elsewhere. They'll do the bare minimum and milk the cow for all it's worth. Can't blame them. Any person would do the same and take advantage of the situation for their benefit.

I mean, they're highly paid to run around all week and keep fit. Dream job. And I doubt the other players look to them for leadership and motivation. So, they'll just take it as seriously as they have to until their contracts are up.

There’s expectations around this . To be apathetic and checked out , is natural and honestly expected
. But to leave at halftime , would be akin to one of us leaving early during a company meeting. Is it wrong ? No , not really ! If the State/ national manger finds out, then you are in a world of hurt . If not overtly then definitely in more subtle ways .
Why ? Because there are expectations that arnt laid out in any Manual or behaviour policy .
There are things like deny leave , not give good jobs to you, give you Friday afternoon crap jobs , and just generally make your life just a little bit harder than anybody else’s. It’s career suicide .

That’s what this is ! Career suicide

Spot on. And the journalist's comments, assumed to be the mouthpiece for some players, are even worse.

He says "some injured players weren't even there". Pathetic. If pointing the finger at your teammates and saying "well at least I'm better than you, you should be getting in trouble more than me" is acceptable I can see why we're getting rid of people.

Compare the hunger and commitment of Seyfarth, who also isn't playing, to these two and the bogus excuses that Chammas is making on their behalf.

Compare the way that Benji's buddies comment on how he's "busting his ass" in comparison to teammates and you see where the problems lie.

At this point the club should either try to bury the hatchet with these players or pay to move them on.
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225042) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225038) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225035) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224708) said:
Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

Last time Grub was given an opportunity he let in a try then knocked on at dummy half when the game against Penrith was in the balance. He cost us big against Souths too. When youre on 40 grand a game you’re supposed to change games, but not in the oppositions favour.

And how many opportunities has the club legend had and done twice as much damage

The one with a World Cup and a premiership ring?

Yeh the same bloke who got the dirts and paraded in an Auckland Blues jersey then walked out the door
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225280) said:
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@Macca0806 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224942) said:
Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...

Who cares if Reynolds wasn't required..who cares even how much they get paid and really who cares even if they are not picked for what ever reason..

Given where the Club is at and the questions being posed in the Media of late you would like to hope everyone in the organisation would be pulling in the one direction not only with their words but actions...These blokes in doing what they did has only thrown Kero on the smouldering fire..

There is no justifying it ..there is no excusing it ..it's a pathetic attitude that all that is wrong in a Club..
 
@Geo said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225305) said:
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@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225271) said:
@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225268) said:
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@avocadoontoast said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224970) said:
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@Tigerstar said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224964) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224959) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224952) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224944) said:
@Macca0806 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224942) said:
Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...

Who cares if Reynolds wasn't required..who cares even how much they get paid and really who cares even if they are not picked for what ever reason..

Given where the Club is at and the questions being posed in the Media of late you would like to hope everyone in the organisation would be pulling in the one directions not only with their words but actions...These blokes in doing what they did has only thrown Kero on the smouldering fire..

There is no justifying it ..there is no excusing it ..it's a pathetic attitude that all that is wrong in a Club..

emotional opinion GEO..lets wait and see what the club does to them...thats my opinion..
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225307) said:
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@Chaos said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225277) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225271) said:
@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225268) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224975) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224970) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224965) said:
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@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224959) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224952) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224944) said:
@Macca0806 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224942) said:
Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...

Who cares if Reynolds wasn't required..who cares even how much they get paid and really who cares even if they are not picked for what ever reason..

Given where the Club is at and the questions being posed in the Media of late you would like to hope everyone in the organisation would be pulling in the one directions not only with their words but actions...These blokes in doing what they did has only thrown Kero on the smouldering fire..

There is no justifying it ..there is no excusing it ..it's a pathetic attitude that all that is wrong in a Club..

emotional opinion GEO..lets wait and see what the club does to them...thats my opinion..

What it's not emotion at all..

It's attitude..
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225307) said:
@Geo said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225305) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225280) said:
@Chaos said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225277) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225271) said:
@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225268) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224975) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224970) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224965) said:
@Tigerstar said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224964) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224959) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224952) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224944) said:
@Macca0806 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224942) said:
Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...

Who cares if Reynolds wasn't required..who cares even how much they get paid and really who cares even if they are not picked for what ever reason..

Given where the Club is at and the questions being posed in the Media of late you would like to hope everyone in the organisation would be pulling in the one directions not only with their words but actions...These blokes in doing what they did has only thrown Kero on the smouldering fire..

There is no justifying it ..there is no excusing it ..it's a pathetic attitude that all that is wrong in a Club..

emotional opinion GEO..lets wait and see what the club does to them...thats my opinion..

This is completely missing the point. The club can't do anything. It's their attitude which is really bad.
 
@Earl said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225310) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225307) said:
@Geo said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225305) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225280) said:
@Chaos said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225277) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225271) said:
@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225268) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224975) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224970) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224965) said:
@Tigerstar said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224964) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224959) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224952) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224944) said:
@Macca0806 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224942) said:
Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...

Who cares if Reynolds wasn't required..who cares even how much they get paid and really who cares even if they are not picked for what ever reason..

Given where the Club is at and the questions being posed in the Media of late you would like to hope everyone in the organisation would be pulling in the one directions not only with their words but actions...These blokes in doing what they did has only thrown Kero on the smouldering fire..

There is no justifying it ..there is no excusing it ..it's a pathetic attitude that all that is wrong in a Club..

emotional opinion GEO..lets wait and see what the club does to them...thats my opinion..

This is completely missing the point. The club can't do anything. It's their attitude which is really bad.

What do you mean the club cant do anything,apparently some on here want contracts torn up etc...the club is a proffessional business the players are professional...there shoulkd be guidelines and expectations put in play like most professional business has...
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225259) said:
Just to put in my opinion and I will leave the emotions aside,my dislike for players etc and concentrate on the facts....
Packer was in the warm up in WTs colours ,he had an obligation as that squad member to stay...
Reynolds wasnt required to be at Brooky at all,but went in support but left at halftime,no obligation to be there at all...
MCK, I dont know but if he was required at Brooky he had an obligation to stay...

Many on here are venting their emotions on what they seem to think is right or wrong...
It is my opinion that the club should have in place criteria for playing and non playing squad members attendance rules and regulations in regard to them representing the Club...if you can bag out professional players for their obligations to the club,then maybe the club should have obligations set out and adhered to so everyone is on the same page in regards to gameday attendance ..

I will refer to INK saying I bang on relentlessly when I played...
I will clarify what I was expected to do when not playing..
I cracked my sternum and was out for 8 weeks,I went to games on my own volition not being required to attend,I would go in the dressing room and wish my mates the best and I would go to the bar and have a beer,sometimes I would walk over to the pub and have a beer at halftime and stay..
the end result was I would have a beer with the players after the game,most of the time they would thank me for coming in and wishing them the best...

pointbeing these guys are proffesional and the club should set out professional rules regarding what they expect of players...

So even you didn't bail.at half time
Thanks Zeigfried.
They don't need professional rules... This starts around u/11s or thereabouts... It's just the done thing
 
@innsaneink said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225312) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225259) said:
Just to put in my opinion and I will leave the emotions aside,my dislike for players etc and concentrate on the facts....
Packer was in the warm up in WTs colours ,he had an obligation as that squad member to stay...
Reynolds wasnt required to be at Brooky at all,but went in support but left at halftime,no obligation to be there at all...
MCK, I dont know but if he was required at Brooky he had an obligation to stay...

Many on here are venting their emotions on what they seem to think is right or wrong...
It is my opinion that the club should have in place criteria for playing and non playing squad members attendance rules and regulations in regard to them representing the Club...if you can bag out professional players for their obligations to the club,then maybe the club should have obligations set out and adhered to so everyone is on the same page in regards to gameday attendance ..

I will refer to INK saying I bang on relentlessly when I played...
I will clarify what I was expected to do when not playing..
I cracked my sternum and was out for 8 weeks,I went to games on my own volition not being required to attend,I would go in the dressing room and wish my mates the best and I would go to the bar and have a beer,sometimes I would walk over to the pub and have a beer at halftime and stay..
the end result was I would have a beer with the players after the game,most of the time they would thank me for coming in and wishing them the best...

pointbeing these guys are proffesional and the club should set out professional rules regarding what they expect of players...

So even you didn't bail.at half time
Thanks Zeigfried.
They don't need professional rules... This starts around u/11s or thereabouts... It's just the done thing

OK I respect your input Mark...we all have differing points of view in life ...
 
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@Earl said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225310) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225307) said:
@Geo said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225305) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225280) said:
@Chaos said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225277) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225271) said:
@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225268) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224975) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224970) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224965) said:
@Tigerstar said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224964) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224959) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224952) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224944) said:
@Macca0806 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1224942) said:
Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...

Who cares if Reynolds wasn't required..who cares even how much they get paid and really who cares even if they are not picked for what ever reason..

Given where the Club is at and the questions being posed in the Media of late you would like to hope everyone in the organisation would be pulling in the one directions not only with their words but actions...These blokes in doing what they did has only thrown Kero on the smouldering fire..

There is no justifying it ..there is no excusing it ..it's a pathetic attitude that all that is wrong in a Club..

emotional opinion GEO..lets wait and see what the club does to them...thats my opinion..

This is completely missing the point. The club can't do anything. It's their attitude which is really bad.

What do you mean the club cant do anything,apparently some on here want contracts torn up etc...the club is a proffessional business the players are professional...there shoulkd be guidelines and expectations put in play like most professional business has...

Have you heard of unfair dismissal laws. You can't sack them for that. It also shows they are taking the mickey.
 
I don't see the big deal about all this. They suck and their performances show they don't care.

I'm confused as to why the media keep leaving MCK out of it though. It was originally reported he was with Reynolds and Packer leaving early, why do they only mention the 2 of them.
 
May be an unpopular opinion, but I'm more concerned with how this gets to the media in the first place - rather than what both players did. I might in the minority but it isn't an issue for me, as only one player was required to be there for the game and the other(going) didn't have one little impact on the game's result or the team's morale.
After such an emotionally charged week for us, I'm more frustrated with the fact we're in the media headlines due to a leak.

I think it's silly to suggest this negatively influences people's perception of us when someone's clearly got a big mouth, and it's the news outlets who have the tendency to make a mountain out of a molehole with anything WT related. It's not a reflection on the overall team at all IMO.
 

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