Packer & Reynolds

[rustycage]

Could care less they didnt technically do anything wrong. I could also care less about what players like Brooks and Taylor think.

Culture is broken and those two blokes sticking up for Packer and Reynolds are part of the problem not part of the solution.

If a player attends a game as a spectator its just incredibly poor form to walk out on their team mates like that.

Ive sat with fans in tears after another flogging or a really tough loss. They didnt get up and leave. They sat through it.

These players all need to be moved on.


So you couldn't care less.

What people have to understand is that everything said on here in this thread is their opinion ,whether right or wrong....its up to the club to penalise them if they are in the wrong or BREECHED their contractual agreement anything we say is here say and emotional opinion..

And yes I couldnt careless if Reynolds left at halftime because he wasnt in the team that won and gave a fantastic result for us...he wasnt required at Brooky ...end of story...

What...are you the Patriot? I thought I responded to The Patriot.

 

[TrueTiger]

Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

 

[TrueTiger]

Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

 

[tony soprano]

What do people genuinely think they’ll do after their deals Expire, retire or play on, if play on, where?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

 

[Tigercrb]

Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

Lol, so you would say he is required by the roosters to be there?

A bloke on virtually minimum wage, 3+ years out of the game is required to be on the side lines supporting him team mates, but a marquee signing trying to convince the coach he deserves another shot in first grade is NOT required?

This is about the difference in character between the 2.

I need to wake up to the real world? Classic

 

[TrueTiger]

Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

Lol, so you would say he is required by the roosters to be there?

A bloke on virtually minimum wage, 3+ years out of the game is required to be on the side lines supporting him team mates, but a marquee signing trying to convince the coach he deserves another shot in first grade is NOT required?

This is about the difference in character between the 2.

I need to wake up to the real world? Classic

Yes you do SBW is a money making machine for what he has achieved over the years JR doesnt even come close...

 

[OzLuke]

Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

I agree with this.....it gives the impression that they don't care about their mates on the field and are really only in it for a pay packet. Would it have been that hard to sit in a little bit of cold to watch the team? To give your support?? If I was paid the amount of money they are I wouldn't think it too much to ask to hang around and cheer when we experience one of our clubs' greatest comebacks.....
Their attitude stinks. Required to be there or not it shows their mentality

 

[Tigercrb]

Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

Lol, so you would say he is required by the roosters to be there?

A bloke on virtually minimum wage, 3+ years out of the game is required to be on the side lines supporting him team mates, but a marquee signing trying to convince the coach he deserves another shot in first grade is NOT required?

This is about the difference in character between the 2.

I need to wake up to the real world? Classic

Yes you do SBW is a money making machine for what he has achieved over the years JR doesnt even come close...

I'm not trying to dispute the money making difference between the 2. I'm pointing out the character difference, the leadership and the respect/attitude towards your team mates. It's light and day.

 

[cochise]

Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

What? Mate you are not the only one on here to have played the game.and this post makes no sense to this discussion.

 

[TrueTiger]

Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

It is relevent...because he wasnt required to attend Brooky...he went of his own volition and left at half time...so what..keep giving me your spiel,it doesnt change the fact that he has a contract with the club,if he has done anything to breech his contract by leaving when he did then the club can deal with it...this club has had a history of under achieving and poor performances,players leaving at halftime is nowhere as bad as tankers,sooks,outspoken players who think they run the place etc etc...

 

[mike]

Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

@TrueTiger respectfully times change, expectations change and what was accepted previously does not meet the standards today. You are entitled to feel the way you do but for most I believe what these three did reflects badly on the club and their teammates and is an indication of a culture within the club that needs to change. When people talk about the bad culture of the club, this is an outward sign of it. Most people would see this behaviour as disrespectful, unprofessional and unacceptable. I would be shocked if that behaviour was acceptable at the Roosters or the Storm. This is where as a club we need to get to.

 

[JD Tiger]

Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

Lol, so you would say he is required by the roosters to be there?

A bloke on virtually minimum wage, 3+ years out of the game is required to be on the side lines supporting him team mates, but a marquee signing trying to convince the coach he deserves another shot in first grade is NOT required?

This is about the difference in character between the 2.

I need to wake up to the real world? Classic

Yes you do SBW is a money making machine for what he has achieved over the years JR doesnt even come close...

Consider this. Despite you seeing Reynolds leaving at half time as no big deal, have you noticed that there are quite a few people who seem to have an opposing view? The media who printed the story, yes they sensationalised it, and possibly blew it out of proportion, but they too saw that it was something that some people may see as inappropriate.

Whether it really was a big deal or not, taken in isolation, it may not have been. But considering all the opinions of other people, and possibly even some players, if even some people do see it as a big deal, then that can affect the perception of what it actually was.

There's a tweet now saying that the WT hierarchy called them in for a chat, discussed it, and will now enforce no sanctions from the 'incident'. Why are they bothering to even have the chat, because they know due to popular opinion there has been an 'incident' which they had to deal with.

So, whether or not the leaving at half time was wrong or not, or expected or not, it did create an incident resulting in negative press fore the club, having to have a formal/informal chat with the players, and publicising the result of that chat. All this is drama that could have been avoided. Social media has a powerful effect, whether the players leaving at half time as wrong or not, I think it clearly would have been better for the club if they had not.

 

[TrueTiger]

Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

What? Mate you are not the only one on here to have played the game.and this post makes no sense to this discussion.

What I said was I played and got paid for my appearance...i was in the public eye while I was on the field,if I wasnt required to attend a venue and out of the team,it didnt matter if I left at halftime or didnt turn up at all...the club didnt own me I had a contract to play when selected,if I wasnt I had my time to do as I pleased ,wether it was to visit family on a sunday when I normally would be contracted to the club to play....its like your boss giving you a day off but you must come to work...so please spare me the inuendos...mate..

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

It is relevent...because he wasnt required to attend Brooky...he went of his own volition and left at half time...so what..keep giving me your spiel,it doesnt change the fact that he has a contract with the club,if he has done anything to breech his contract by leaving when he did then the club can deal with it...this club has had a history of under achieving and poor performances,players leaving at halftime is nowhere as bad as tankers,sooks,outspoken players who think they run the place etc etc...

What are you talking about ? It’s all indicative of a broader issue . Lol it’s like you’re arguing “I only stole 100 bucks where this guy stole 1000 bucks. He’s way worse “ The scale of the act is irrelevant. The fact that these things are considered ok , is the main issue. I’m not changing your mind that’s fine , Bur when you wonder why the storm and roosters of the world , dig in whilst under the pump for 15 mins and don’t let the opposition get an inch , and why the tigers can’t do it, just remember this debate.

 

[hobbo1]

Over the top hysteria
Move on peeps 🙄

 

[cochise]

inuendos

Inuendos?

 

[gallagher]

I think it shows that these guys and probably a lot of our past and present players get away with doing the absolute minimum. Only do what is 'required', not an ounce more.
It shows a very weak culture throughout the club.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Over the top hysteria
Move on peeps 🙄

Is it though ? You’re hugely critical of the club. All the time! When little things like this rear their head , coupled with the social media posts , the leaking of resentment within the playing group etc. and it begs the question . Do we have low standards . Do we allow apathy to infect every aspect of the club.

 

[TrueTiger]

Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

It is relevent...because he wasnt required to attend Brooky...he went of his own volition and left at half time...so what..keep giving me your spiel,it doesnt change the fact that he has a contract with the club,if he has done anything to breech his contract by leaving when he did then the club can deal with it...this club has had a history of under achieving and poor performances,players leaving at halftime is nowhere as bad as tankers,sooks,outspoken players who think they run the place etc etc...

What are you talking about ? It’s all indicative of a broader issue . Lol it’s like you’re arguing “I only stole 100 bucks where this guy stole 1000 bucks. He’s way worse “ The scale of the act is irrelevant. The fact that these things are considered ok , is the main issue. I’m not changing your mind that’s fine , Bur when you wonder why the storm and roosters of the world , dig in whilst under the pump for 15 mins and don’t let the opposition get an inch , and why the tigers can’t do it, just remember this debate.

Both those teams have outstanding rosters and very good systems that have taken years to build,WTs on the other hand have been poor at recruitment ,coach recuitment and general poor management...its up to the club to instill what is expected of the players who represent the club...it is a professional business and should be treated as such,if these blokes have done the wrong thing its up to the club to adjudicate not us fans on a forum getting our knickers in a knot and become emotionally embroiled..