Pascoe - No Drug Culture at Wests Tigers...

Pretty low act by Simona to drop team mates in it!

I am sure this headline, Lovett, contracts talks are all starting to weigh on the playing group.
 
So what should Pascoe have said then?

"Yes, we have a drug culture at our club and we're willingly paying players despite this". ???

"Despite Tim having lied to us repeatedly about personal matters to gain salary advances and to the public about his charity, we're willing to believe him on this one, as should everyone else" ???

"Since Tim Simona has demonstrated the same selfish behaviour with the media as he did when he was a drug and gambling addict, I'd like to do the same and say every club has 6-7 players who use cocaine regularly, I just can't say who" ???

wtf was he supposed to say people?
 
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Tim Simona admits to drug habit … rubbed out of the game
Andrew Johns admits to drug habit ... immortal of the game & job at ch 9 .

You're joking aren't you.

The two cases are totally different - so are their talents.

If no one else does, I think Simona is an Immortal.

An Immortal Idiot!!!!
 
So we have one player done for coke possession, and another gets done for gambling and admits to a coke addiction. While I don't like that Simona ratted his team mates out to save his own skin, Pascoe is a fool to believe that there's not a distinct possibility that anyone else in the squad is using. As I don't see Pascoe to be a fool, it's quite obvious his comments are damage control and he will obviously investigating internally.
 
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Tim Simona admits to drug habit … rubbed out of the game
Andrew Johns admits to drug habit ... immortal of the game & job at ch 9 .

As you know, Simona wasn't rubbed out for his drug habit. He was rubbed out because he is a thief, steals money from kids charities and gambles on games against his own team mates and himself.

You dont get rubbed out for drugs in this game.

Havent you heard. Everyone is doing it, its not a bad thing, its a society wide problem and anyone against drugs should get off their moral high horse. Theyre 'recreational' drugs. They are fun! They dont hurt anybody.

Excellent post Swordy…

Seen about 20 or so posts claiming it's rife in the game...I'm not saying it isn't ..you would think if it so out there someone could come out with a name..

Or is it a secret society..?
 
If I was Pascoe, I would make EVERY player under a Wests Tigers contract assemble at the club at 9am. I would give them a 24 hour amnesty to confess any drug use. The ones who confess will be given chances to save their contracts. At 9:01am the next day, any player who hasnt confessed, I would give them a cup and tell them they will be stood down until they supply a urine sample. Anyone who submits a dirty sample should be sacked on the spot.

Oh wait, we're the Wests Tigers, we'll just imagine nothing is wrong. That's how things are done in this joint.
 
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Anyone who thinks the majority of players dont occasionally use some sort of party drug is naive.

This part is right. There is a tendency for experimentation with drugs in young people, the rates are much higher than for older adults.

The rates go up again when you are young and you have disposable income.

What are rugby league players but young, impressionable guys with huge disposable incomes. Throw in the club-gang-clan type mentality and the general self-confidence of a young fellow with the world at his feet, of course these guys dabble (or more than dabble) in recreational drugs.

I've said it before, if even 1/4 of the stories I've heard about drug use are true, it still makes for very regular and very widespread drug use.

Simona clearly has a problem, the level and financial outlay. But I would be surprised if a significant number of players from every team don't fool around with drugs from time to time, even if mostly in the offseason.
 
I'd guess the club will do some damage control PR work in regards to these comments… There's no legal Avenue for something years ago so they're safe there ... And it's all too hard for the NRL as we saw with Mitch Pearce, they're happy to sweep it under the carpet.
Did you ever wonder what those guys are praying for at games end?
Wonder no more.
 
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Tim Simona admits to drug habit … rubbed out of the game
Andrew Johns admits to drug habit ... immortal of the game & job at ch 9 .

As you know, Simona wasn't rubbed out for his drug habit. He was rubbed out because he is a thief, steals money from kids charities and gambles on games against his own team mates and himself.

You dont get rubbed out for drugs in this game.

Havent you heard. Everyone is doing it, its not a bad thing, its a society wide problem and anyone against drugs should get off their moral high horse. Theyre 'recreational' drugs. They are fun! They dont hurt anybody.

Excellent post Swordy…

Seen about 20 or so posts claiming it's rife in the game...I'm not saying it isn't ..you would think if it so out there someone could come out with a name..

Or is it a secret society..?

Why do you want a name?
There's been enough in the past

Each way post
 
This is what he should of said…...in light of recent events the club is quadrupling its drug testing program in a bid to identify any players that are abusing illicit drugs.
 
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Anyone who thinks the majority of players dont occasionally use some sort of party drug is naive.

This part is right. There is a tendency for experimentation with drugs in young people, the rates are much higher than for older adults.

The rates go up again when you are young and you have disposable income.

What are rugby league players but young, impressionable guys with huge disposable incomes. Throw in the club-gang-clan type mentality and the general self-confidence of a young fellow with the world at his feet, of course these guys dabble (or more than dabble) in recreational drugs.

I've said it before, if even 1/4 of the stories I've heard about drug use are true, it still makes for very regular and very widespread drug use.

Simona clearly has a problem, the level and financial outlay. But I would be surprised if a significant number of players from every team don't fool around with drugs from time to time, even if mostly in the offseason.

Great post. I am absolutely astonished that people in the RL society are so naive as to think that recreational drug use would not be rife in the NRL and lower grades. Blokes with massive amounts of money, pretty young women throwing themselves at them and huge amounts of free time on their hands are going to get up to mischief without a doubt. They are treated like rock stars yet a lot of people are naive (stupid) enough to think they aren't gonna behave like rock stars. It's unbelievable to be honest.
Corey Norman, Ben Barba, Danny Wicks, Dave Taylor, Dylan Walker, Aaron Gray, Kyle Lovett, Greg Bird, Steve Michaels, Chris Houston are all blokes who have been caught out in the last few years (notwithstanding the other blokes who I have undoubtedly forgotten about), yet people assume it is just the WT who have experienced recreational drug use amongst its' ranks. And the widespread reporting of supposed Broncos players using cocaine in the nightclub toilets a few years back?(which in superb Bronco-style was conveniently and quickly covered over). Pisses me off that our club is singled out and heavily scrutinised more than most.
 
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If I was Pascoe, I would make EVERY player under a Wests Tigers contract assemble at the club at 9am. I would give them a 24 hour amnesty to confess any drug use. The ones who confess will be given chances to save their contracts. At 9:01am the next day, any player who hasnt confessed, I would give them a cup and tell them they will be stood down until they supply a urine sample. Anyone who submits a dirty sample should be sacked on the spot.

Oh wait, we're the Wests Tigers, we'll just imagine nothing is wrong. That's how things are done in this joint.

It is most certainly not just our club. The NRL as a code is more than happy to turn a blind eye to misdemeanors when it suits as well, no wonder all of its' clubs are content to let things blow over.
 
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This is what he should of said…...in light of recent events the club is quadrupling its drug testing program in a bid to identify any players that are abusing illicit drugs.

The voice of reason the club should be proactive in this not reactive or just flat denial.
 
I think the government needs to own the manufacture and supply and use the proceeds to educate.

People will want to get high and drunk from time to time its human nature.
 
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I think the government needs to own the manufacture and supply and use the proceeds to educate.

People will want to get high and drunk from time to time its human nature.

You want the government to control decriminalization

Like letting the cat look after the fishbowl and the birdcage , no thanks

99% percent off people can control their urges , we need to find a way to detect potential addicts at an early stage and help treat them , not wait until the drug of choice has been ingrained into a cycle of life that is almost impossible to break

Drug dealers get life , no possibility for parole , til they carry you out in a wooden box , life

Lets get tough on this crap
 
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I think the government needs to own the manufacture and supply and use the proceeds to educate.

People will want to get high and drunk from time to time its human nature.

You want the government to control decriminalization

Like letting the cat look after the fishbowl and the birdcage , no thanks

99% percent off people can control their urges , we need to find a way to detect potential addicts at an early stage and help treat them , not wait until the drug of choice has been ingrained into a cycle of life that is almost impossible to break

Drug dealers get life , no possibility for parole , til they carry you out in a wooden box , life

Lets get tough on this crap

The current method isn't working. The government has to take control. The government in charge is better that the criminals in charge.

People will want to drink and do drugs you can't stop that. People have been getting high for ever. Give them safe avenues to buy and continue to educate and rehabilitate.

Once it is decriminalised the illegal supply will reduce and you can then severely punish the illegal makers and suppliers.

I just think we are kidding ourselves if we think people are going to stop taking, making and selling drugs if we increase the penalties. Look at the USA it didn't work. Now they are trying the controlled way.
 
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I think the government needs to own the manufacture and supply and use the proceeds to educate.

People will want to get high and drunk from time to time its human nature.

You want the government to control decriminalization

Like letting the cat look after the fishbowl and the birdcage , no thanks

99% percent off people can control their urges , we need to find a way to detect potential addicts at an early stage and help treat them , not wait until the drug of choice has been ingrained into a cycle of life that is almost impossible to break

Drug dealers get life , no possibility for parole , til they carry you out in a wooden box , life

Lets get tough on this crap

The current method isn't working. The government has to take control. The government in charge is better that the criminals in charge.

People will want to drink and do drugs you can't stop that. People have been getting high for ever. Give them safe avenues to buy and continue to educate and rehabilitate.

Once it is decriminalised the illegal supply will reduce and you can then severely punish the illegal makers and suppliers.

I just think we are kidding ourselves if we think people are going to stop taking, making and selling drugs if we increase the penalties. Look at the USA it didn't work. Now they are trying the controlled way.

Comparing the US to Australia is madness , US population must be nearing 300 million compared to Australia's about 25 million

Also we have no countries that border us , particularly one that is the gateway of the major drug cartels

Our biggest concern with drug importation in the future is the Ghost ships

How Border Control and the AFP plans to tackle this will be the big question
 

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