Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

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Eels bugger all punishment? They were only stripped of all their points

Also $1mill fine, nines title and prizemoney stripped and 5 director's deregistered.
But the NRL are picking on us.

Bugger all lol

Good grief no…....not the 9's title! Say it ain't so, Parra should of just boarded up the windows then if they've lost the 9's title. Considering it was reported that a certain player was being paid cash by an official in a carpark or whatever it was, IMO a more appropriate punishment would be for said player to be deregistered. Blatant cheating.........gone. What does a player have to do apart from peeing in his own mouth (or do what Simona did) in order for the NRL to boot them out of the game?
Taking a piddly 12 competition points off them is a waste of time, an illegally assembled team must be hit in their playing roster.

 

[Telltails]

What a ridiculous sanction. The more I read about it the more it reaks of the NRL weilding its big stick playing tough over a man who has promoted the game, and is a star performer in his field yet cops one of the toughest punishments that can be afforded to anyone in the game.
Yes he should have declared the offer - that may never come to friution - and a fine for a breach of rules. But de registering is outrageous and stinks of something more.
I honestly believe it has been brought to Greenburgs attention from somewhere external by some lowllife creature, and if the motivation for the action is to demonstrate that the NRL is getting tough with the rule breakers all it does is confirms that its happy to turn a blind eye to what is really going on, and make clubs like ours the scapegoats.

 

[mike]

The more I read abou JP the more I think that Greenberg saw him as a threat to his position and so took extraordinary steps to tarnish his reputation. TG better watch his next steps carefully. This could get very ugly very quickly.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Eels bugger all punishment? They were only stripped of all their points

Also $1mill fine, nines title and prizemoney stripped and 5 director's deregistered.
But the NRL are picking on us.

Bugger all lol

Good grief no…....not the 9's title! Say it ain't so, Parra should of just boarded up the windows then if they've lost the 9's title. Considering it was reported that a certain player was being paid cash by an official in a carpark or whatever it was, IMO a more appropriate punishment would be for said player to be deregistered. Blatant cheating.........gone. What does a player have to do apart from peeing in his own mouth (or do what Simona did) in order for the NRL to boot them out of the game?
Taking a piddly 12 competition points off them is a waste of time, an illegally assembled team must be hit in their playing roster.

You left out the 1 million dollar fine and the directors deregisted. But yeah, bugger all

 

[The_Patriot]

Pascoe has since been ordered by the NRL to stay away from the club’s Concord base, while Tigers staff are barred from calling their boss.

It is understood Pascoe is now meeting off site with the club’s legal team as part of planning his defence.

Can anyone confirm this. It seems extremely unfair. How is the man meant to defend himself.

This is Nazi like if its true.

In this country you are innocent until proven guilty, where is Justins due process, where is his ability to communicate with his staff and prepare a legal reply.

I thought he was given a notice of INTENT to de register? If that is the case then he should be able to carry on until such time as they actually de register him.

Ive already stated the corruptness i think is involved here but i thought he might at least have a chance to defend himself. _I see now the decision has been made, any case we put to the NRL will be ignored._

Have a good look at those record profits and other figures listed above Tigers fans, how dare he be successful hey.

 

[hammertime]

Well done on Robbie for the article and its great to see some support from the media coming out emphasising how much pascoe has not only improved the club, but the NRL as a whole.

You don't kick out these good guys improving the game unless your absolute sure it deliberate. I don't see that. The only thing I can see tying the deal is ayoubs insistence it was done before Robbie left.

If he hadn't done that, maybe we wouldn't be in this situation. And even if he insisted, that wasn't the clubs or the original intent of the deal.

Alongside that, the numbers don't stack up. If Robbie was paid in full, how is this even an issue.

Having it offsite, if true, is the bad mistake here. Possibly something done in panic which should be forgivable as we all might react the same way sometimes.

I don't think Greenberg has done his homework here. If Robbie walks because of an overzealous nrl, that surely would look horrible for Greenberg.

 

[Telltails]

Pascoe has since been ordered by the NRL to stay away from the club’s Concord base, while Tigers staff are barred from calling their boss.

It is understood Pascoe is now meeting off site with the club’s legal team as part of planning his defence.

Can anyone confirm this. It seems extremely unfair.

How is the man meant to defend himself.

This is Nazi like.

They are a law unto themselves.
They should be congratulating the WTs management for getting their club into a positive financial position, but instead reward us with a monumental fine.
I wonder what they will do with the money?
And who oversees their dealings.

 

[coivtny]

Was it? I didn't see that reported anywhere. I know the NRL said it was difficult to locate but that's a bit different to being hidden offsite.

Was said by Greenburg in response to a question by Danny Weilder

Fair enough, I didn't hear that but then I didn't see the entire interview. Not doubting what you're saying but I think I'm going to wait to hear WT's defence before passing judgement on the level of culpability in our behaviour. I just find it difficult to believe the NRL would have found the alleged contract if it really was "hidden offsite". It was my understanding that it took us some time to produce the contract but that we did eventually hand it over. If that is the case I don't know that I'd characterise that as hiding a contract offsite. I'm going to suspend judgement until I see what our defence is and then form a view on who I believe.

 

[The_Patriot]

I tried to send an email to NRL via NRL.com but when I hit submit their website kept giving me an error… so I sent this to the Tigers and asked them to pass it on instead. It's a bit long winded and perhaps some parts are over-the-top, but I felt I needed to give the NRL my 2 cents...

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Dear Mr Greenberg,

I’m reaching out to express my disappointment in the sanctions handed down to the Wests Tigers this week relating to an ambassador role that was offered to Robbie Farah by Tigers management. My disappointment stems around a few key points:

1\. The fact the role was supposedly undisclosed, and yet was public knowledge at the time, having been reported on by various news outlets
2\. The heavy handed punishment handed down, specifically what seems an excessive fine, and the standing down of CEO Justin Pascoe who has acted with the utmost professionalism throughout a number of trying times during his tenure at Wests Tigers
3\. The announcement of this punishment at the same time as the announcement relating to the Sharks, which paints both clubs with the same brush - equating the integrity of Pascoe with that of Shane Flanagan is especially unfair on Pascoe
4\. The excessive nature of these punishments when compared to the silence and inaction over alleged violence and harassment of women that is rampant throughout the game, particularly this offseason.
5\. The timing of the announcement only a few days before Christmas, gives the Tigers little opportunity to defend the image and integrity of the club
6\. The punishment relative to other salary cap scandals - Pascoe is being treated as the equivalent of Brian Waldron, whilst we still haven’t heard anything about the alleged issues at Manly and Cronulla. When there was suspicious activities going on at the Broncos a few years ago, the investigation went silent under the explanation that Andrew Gee wouldn’t make himself available for interview; it seems like there are double standards as to the treatment of different clubs.
7\. The lack of transparency surrounding ambassador roles for ex players at other clubs. For example, was Darren Lockyer paid market value during his final years at the Broncos? There were reports at that time that he was on $250k per year, and now he sits on the Broncos board. Justin Hodges and Corey Parker both work for Fox Sports, a company half owned by the owner of the Broncos - were these roles included in the Broncos salary cap?

I love the game of rugby league but am finding myself more and more disenfranchised with the game due to decisions such as this. I know that I am not alone in this respect. AFL is making inroads in Sydney, and international sports such as NFL and NBA are becoming increasing popular in Australia. What are we doing to make rugby league the greatest game of all?

Kind Regards,
Steve

Hi Steve,

Thats a well written letter. Youve covered the major issues and stated each point well.

Forget Todd Greenberg. Even if it makes its way to Greenberg's desk it will have zero affect on the man reading it.

Please send this through to the Telegraph or the Herald. If you want to get any traction at all from this letter thats about the only way you might achieve it.

 

[swag_tiger]

Pascoe has since been ordered by the NRL to stay away from the club’s Concord base, while Tigers staff are barred from calling their boss.

It is understood Pascoe is now meeting off site with the club’s legal team as part of planning his defence.

Can anyone confirm this. It seems extremely unfair.

How is the man meant to defend himself.

This is Nazi like.

They are a law unto themselves.
They should be congratulating the WTs management for getting their club into a positive financial position, but instead reward us with a monumental fine.
I wonder what they will do with the money?
And who oversees their dealings.

The're probably going to feed it into the richer clubs.

 

[jadtiger]

I tried to send an email to NRL via NRL.com but when I hit submit their website kept giving me an error… so I sent this to the Tigers and asked them to pass it on instead. It's a bit long winded and perhaps some parts are over-the-top, but I felt I needed to give the NRL my 2 cents...

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Dear Mr Greenberg,

I’m reaching out to express my disappointment in the sanctions handed down to the Wests Tigers this week relating to an ambassador role that was offered to Robbie Farah by Tigers management. My disappointment stems around a few key points:

1\. The fact the role was supposedly undisclosed, and yet was public knowledge at the time, having been reported on by various news outlets
2\. The heavy handed punishment handed down, specifically what seems an excessive fine, and the standing down of CEO Justin Pascoe who has acted with the utmost professionalism throughout a number of trying times during his tenure at Wests Tigers
3\. The announcement of this punishment at the same time as the announcement relating to the Sharks, which paints both clubs with the same brush - equating the integrity of Pascoe with that of Shane Flanagan is especially unfair on Pascoe
4\. The excessive nature of these punishments when compared to the silence and inaction over alleged violence and harassment of women that is rampant throughout the game, particularly this offseason.
5\. The timing of the announcement only a few days before Christmas, gives the Tigers little opportunity to defend the image and integrity of the club
6\. The punishment relative to other salary cap scandals - Pascoe is being treated as the equivalent of Brian Waldron, whilst we still haven’t heard anything about the alleged issues at Manly and Cronulla. When there was suspicious activities going on at the Broncos a few years ago, the investigation went silent under the explanation that Andrew Gee wouldn’t make himself available for interview; it seems like there are double standards as to the treatment of different clubs.
7\. The lack of transparency surrounding ambassador roles for ex players at other clubs. For example, was Darren Lockyer paid market value during his final years at the Broncos? There were reports at that time that he was on $250k per year, and now he sits on the Broncos board. Justin Hodges and Corey Parker both work for Fox Sports, a company half owned by the owner of the Broncos - were these roles included in the Broncos salary cap?

I love the game of rugby league but am finding myself more and more disenfranchised with the game due to decisions such as this. I know that I am not alone in this respect. AFL is making inroads in Sydney, and international sports such as NFL and NBA are becoming increasing popular in Australia. What are we doing to make rugby league the greatest game of all?

Kind Regards,
Steve

Hi Steve,

Thats a well written letter. Youve covered the major issues and stated each point well.

Forget Todd Greenberg. Even if it makes its way to Greenberg's desk it will have zero affect on the man reading it.

Please send this through to the Telegraph or the Herald. If you want to get any traction at all from this letter thats about the only way you might achieve it.

x2

 

[Newtown]

The more I read abou JP the more I think that Greenberg saw him as a threat to his position and so took extraordinary steps to tarnish his reputation. TG better watch his next steps carefully. This could get very ugly very quickly.

I totally agree with you on this.

 

[Telltails]

I tried to send an email to NRL via NRL.com but when I hit submit their website kept giving me an error… so I sent this to the Tigers and asked them to pass it on instead. It's a bit long winded and perhaps some parts are over-the-top, but I felt I needed to give the NRL my 2 cents...

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Dear Mr Greenberg,

I’m reaching out to express my disappointment in the sanctions handed down to the Wests Tigers this week relating to an ambassador role that was offered to Robbie Farah by Tigers management. My disappointment stems around a few key points:

1\. The fact the role was supposedly undisclosed, and yet was public knowledge at the time, having been reported on by various news outlets
2\. The heavy handed punishment handed down, specifically what seems an excessive fine, and the standing down of CEO Justin Pascoe who has acted with the utmost professionalism throughout a number of trying times during his tenure at Wests Tigers
3\. The announcement of this punishment at the same time as the announcement relating to the Sharks, which paints both clubs with the same brush - equating the integrity of Pascoe with that of Shane Flanagan is especially unfair on Pascoe
4\. The excessive nature of these punishments when compared to the silence and inaction over alleged violence and harassment of women that is rampant throughout the game, particularly this offseason.
5\. The timing of the announcement only a few days before Christmas, gives the Tigers little opportunity to defend the image and integrity of the club
6\. The punishment relative to other salary cap scandals - Pascoe is being treated as the equivalent of Brian Waldron, whilst we still haven’t heard anything about the alleged issues at Manly and Cronulla. When there was suspicious activities going on at the Broncos a few years ago, the investigation went silent under the explanation that Andrew Gee wouldn’t make himself available for interview; it seems like there are double standards as to the treatment of different clubs.
7\. The lack of transparency surrounding ambassador roles for ex players at other clubs. For example, was Darren Lockyer paid market value during his final years at the Broncos? There were reports at that time that he was on $250k per year, and now he sits on the Broncos board. Justin Hodges and Corey Parker both work for Fox Sports, a company half owned by the owner of the Broncos - were these roles included in the Broncos salary cap?

I love the game of rugby league but am finding myself more and more disenfranchised with the game due to decisions such as this. I know that I am not alone in this respect. AFL is making inroads in Sydney, and international sports such as NFL and NBA are becoming increasing popular in Australia. What are we doing to make rugby league the greatest game of all?

Kind Regards,
Steve

Hi Steve,

Thats a well written letter. Youve covered the major issues and stated each point well.

Forget Todd Greenberg. Even if it makes its way to Greenberg's desk it will have zero affect on the man reading it.

Please send this through to the Telegraph or the Herald. If you want to get any traction at all from this letter thats about the only way you might achieve it.

x2

Excellent work Steve. Hope it gets heard.

 

[Russell]

Pascoe has since been ordered by the NRL to stay away from the club’s Concord base, while Tigers staff are barred from calling their boss.

It is understood Pascoe is now meeting off site with the club’s legal team as part of planning his defence.

Can anyone confirm this. It seems extremely unfair. How is the man meant to defend himself.

This is Nazi like if its true.

In this country you are innocent until proven guilty, where is Justins due process, where is his ability to communicate with his staff and prepare a legal reply.

I thought he was given a notice of INTENT to de register? If that is the case then he should be able to carry on until such time as they actually de register him.

Ive already stated the corruptness i think is involved here but i thought he might at least have a chance to defend himself. _I see now the decision has been made, any case we put to the NRL will be ignored._

Have a good look at those record profits and other figures listed above Tigers fans, how dare he be successful hey.

I think the only way Pascoe and the Tigers are going to get a decent and fair hearing is in a court of law - not the biased NRL tribunal.

They need to drag as much corruptness prevalent in the NRL that they can muster to the fore - especially on Greenburg. Shouldn't be too difficult. Don't think it would take long for the NRL to cave in.

Give 'em what for Tigers!.

 

[mike]

Pascoe has since been ordered by the NRL to stay away from the club’s Concord base, while Tigers staff are barred from calling their boss.

It is understood Pascoe is now meeting off site with the club’s legal team as part of planning his defence.

Can anyone confirm this. It seems extremely unfair. How is the man meant to defend himself.

This is Nazi like if its true.

In this country you are innocent until proven guilty, where is Justins due process, where is his ability to communicate with his staff and prepare a legal reply.

I thought he was given a notice of INTENT to de register? If that is the case then he should be able to carry on until such time as they actually de register him.

Ive already stated the corruptness i think is involved here but i thought he might at least have a chance to defend himself. _I see now the decision has been made, any case we put to the NRL will be ignored._

Have a good look at those record profits and other figures listed above Tigers fans, how dare he be successful hey.

I think the only way Pascoe and the Tigers are going to get a decent and fair hearing is in a court of law - not the biased NRL tribunal.

They need to drag as much corruptness prevalent in the NRL that they can muster to the fore - especially on Greenburg. Shouldn't be too difficult. Don't think it would take long for the NRL to cave in.

Give 'em what for Tigers!.

Yes it needs to be in a court of law.

 

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Also $1mill fine, nines title and prizemoney stripped and 5 director's deregistered.
But the NRL are picking on us.

Bugger all lol

Good grief no…....not the 9's title! Say it ain't so, Parra should of just boarded up the windows then if they've lost the 9's title. Considering it was reported that a certain player was being paid cash by an official in a carpark or whatever it was, IMO a more appropriate punishment would be for said player to be deregistered. Blatant cheating.........gone. What does a player have to do apart from peeing in his own mouth (or do what Simona did) in order for the NRL to boot them out of the game?
Taking a piddly 12 competition points off them is a waste of time, an illegally assembled team must be hit in their playing roster.

You left out the 1 million dollar fine and the directors deregisted. But yeah, bugger all

Directors of what exactly? Probably merchandise, catering and the like…......
Was Parra's CEO de-registered over their blatent cheating?
$1 million fine......how much of that was suspended?
As I said, urine-weak penalty for such deliberate cheating.

 

[supercoach]

Hey guys..I went to the NRL website and clicked on the contract us hyper link.
Anyway sent them a long and hard hitting email but politely. Anyway got a response in under a hour, I guess it was a cut and paste to all the hundreds of emails they have received. Anyway the response painted us like public enemy no1 and Pascoe had deliberately tried to pull a swiftly.

Anyway I still think it’s important to keep emailing or even send a registered letter to Greenberg. To me this was a well planned operation by the NRL to weaken our club

 

[Yossarian]

https://mobile.twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1075680036076740608

Noble but probably coordinated and carefully thought through by Tigers

That’d be a nice change of pace.

Point taken

Yoss I don’t know how close you are to Tigers inner workings (and I’m not asking) but you seem to know more than the average punter. Can I ask you: most people, me included, seem to think our current management/governance is pretty good but I detect some sinicism from you. Is our management as good as we think???

No that's not my intention - it was a throwaway line. The club, overall, has never been better run by the top individuals. I have less confidence in the board but off field we've not been in such great shape since, well probably ever.

This seems to have been appallingly handled from go to whoa.

 

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Pascoe has since been ordered by the NRL to stay away from the club’s Concord base, while Tigers staff are barred from calling their boss.

It is understood Pascoe is now meeting off site with the club’s legal team as part of planning his defence.

Can anyone confirm this. It seems extremely unfair. How is the man meant to defend himself.

This is Nazi like if its true.

In this country you are innocent until proven guilty, where is Justins due process, where is his ability to communicate with his staff and prepare a legal reply.

I thought he was given a notice of INTENT to de register? If that is the case then he should be able to carry on until such time as they actually de register him.

Ive already stated the corruptness i think is involved here but i thought he might at least have a chance to defend himself. _I see now the decision has been made, any case we put to the NRL will be ignored._

Have a good look at those record profits and other figures listed above Tigers fans, how dare he be successful hey.

I think the only way Pascoe and the Tigers are going to get a decent and fair hearing is in a court of law - not the biased NRL tribunal.

They need to drag as much corruptness prevalent in the NRL that they can muster to the fore - especially on Greenburg. Shouldn't be too difficult. Don't think it would take long for the NRL to cave in.

Give 'em what for Tigers!.

Absolutely.
Time for Bryden's to show what they've got and grab these incompetent NRL maggots by the throat. The way the NRL is so shoddily run surely a top-class lawyer could pick their amateurish rules and regulations apart like a rotting carcass.
Get the bloke that got OJ off! He was a deadset miracle worker.
Hope our club goes hard at the NRL with all guns blazing.

 

[Plato]

Robbie has confirmed that his ambassadorship role was all over the media but we are led to believe that Greenberg and his employees who are paid to police such things knew nothing of it until two months ago? Yes, Pascoe made a mistake by not following procedure, but Greenberg had knowledge and by failing to act was compliant, or at least accepting. If he and his staff had no knowledge until recently then they are all incompetents. Who polices the police? Raid the NRL, go through their books, confiscate their mobiles, and then you will get to the truth - but that will never happen will it?