Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[Geo]

Exactly , it's like cash jobs for tradies …..unless you actually set them up what can you do ......maybe that's the answer .......the NRL have fake people trying to set up TPA's to see how clubs actually handle them :bulb:

The only way to police TPA's is to ban them altogether. why doesn't the NRL do it?

Because you can't stop a person earning an income from their own intellectual property or brand…

Sure, but why can't the NRL via the Taxation department check how much these players are really earning from their own intellectual property or brand?

If Queensland Bananas want to pay Billy Slater a 100k to promote Bananas to Banana benders it's between him and the taxman…NRL..have nothing to do with it is why...the NRL also can't stop Slater from earning that income nor is it included in the Salary Cap...

 

[happy_tiger]

Sure, but why can't the **NRL via the Taxation department check how much these players are really earning** from their own intellectual property or brand?

Because cash under the table will always be the way around it.

I think he's hoping the players would declare their winnings from golf games to the taxman. :roll

If they did declare their winnings from golf games the taxman would think they were Golf Open professionals not rugby league players.

Like Anasta :laughing:

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Well maybe you’d never catch rorting like golf games etc. but you know it’s happening. So you apply a relentless blow torch to the offending club in every other area of their administration- waiting for an opportunity to catch them out on a lesser offence. Then nail them.
I knew a staff member was running down staff members and becoming acid to our organisation- but I couldn’t prove it. Ended up sacking him for being late for work. NRL, if they are fair dinkum, need to adopt the same approach. They don’t, and it makes me wonder why??

Maybe they are Steve but these clubs are very smart and keep everything off the books. Meanwhile , when dumb arse clubs like us stuff up they have to ping us.

Yep - that’s true. And yes, maybe these clubs are just too smart for NRL

 

[Telltails]

The Roosters only declared 200,000 in TPA's.
So what keeps their star studded roster well enough paid to remain under the cap?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

So are the NRL corrupt or incompetent? Some say both, but they can only be one.

 

[Newtown]

So are the NRL corrupt or incompetent? Some say both, but they can only be one.

I think that they are blind.

 

[gallagher]

So are the NRL corrupt or incompetent? Some say both, but they can only be one.

Their incompetence is there for all to see. Couldn't they be corrupt aswell?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

So are the NRL corrupt or incompetent? Some say both, but they can only be one.

Their incompetence is there for all to see. Couldn't they be corrupt aswell?

If they’re corrupt, they can’t be incompetent, because nothing has ever been proven. All there is is speculation from one eyed supporters.

 

[happy_tiger]

So are the NRL corrupt or incompetent? Some say both, but they can only be one.

Their incompetence is there for all to see. Couldn't they be corrupt aswell?

Is the ATO incompetent as well ….........Centrelink as well .........Police as well ..........Federal Police as well

Very hard to stop cash payments

 

[gallagher]

So are the NRL corrupt or incompetent? Some say both, but they can only be one.

Their incompetence is there for all to see. Couldn't they be corrupt aswell?

Is the ATO incompetent as well ….........Centrelink as well .........Police as well ..........Federal Police as well

Very hard to stop cash payments

Wtf you talking about?

 

[hobbo]

So are the NRL corrupt or incompetent? Some say both, but they can only be one.

Their incompetence is there for all to see. Couldn't they be corrupt aswell?

Is the ATO incompetent as well ….........Centrelink as well .........Police as well ..........Federal Police as well

Very hard to stop cash payments

Wtf you talking about?

He’s talking toad :laughing:

 

[gallagher]

So are the NRL corrupt or incompetent? Some say both, but they can only be one.

Their incompetence is there for all to see. Couldn't they be corrupt aswell?

If they’re corrupt, they can’t be incompetent, because nothing has ever been proven. All there is is speculation from one eyed supporters.

I don't know if they're corrupt or not. But i think they are incompetent in running the game. Referees, expansion, scheduling, junior funding could all be handled better. But i dont see why that would mean corruption couldn't be in there aswell.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

There appears to be 2 options. The NRL softens their punishments, or we go to court. It would be naive to suggest there's no chance of court action given the amount of grey areas involved, the NRL's excessive punishments, the NRL's apartment stubbornness and the NRL's refusal to communicate during this process.

Of course the 3rd option is we bend over and take whatever Greenberg chooses to thrust into us. I can't see either Go or Pascoe being the types to do the latter, unless it was extremely clear that we were 100% in the wrong, and the punishments are fair.

Have you noticed no other clubs have taken the NRL to court over sanctions due to the cap?

Good point.

Those clubs you are referring to were red hot guilty, very much unlike Wests Tigers position. Personally I am very much looking forward to our club sticking up for what they believe in. By the way, clubs like Roosters and Broncos have been "somehow fortunate" to never have been through a sideshow such as that delivered by Greenburg on Wests tigers.

Well said Newtown, agree with you totally.
The NRL let the Broncos off the hook completely in regards to the whole Andrew Gee episode. Couldn't be bothered chasing it up because they knew they wouldnt like what was unearthed…it wouldve made the NRL look like the shonky, shoddy organisation that most fans believe it to be in any case.
The NRL see what they wanna see.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Their incompetence is there for all to see. Couldn't they be corrupt aswell?

Is the ATO incompetent as well ….........Centrelink as well .........Police as well ..........Federal Police as well

Very hard to stop cash payments

Wtf you talking about?

He’s talking toad :laughing:

:roll

Wonder if that language has it's own dictionary?

 

[happy_tiger]

So are the NRL corrupt or incompetent? Some say both, but they can only be one.

Their incompetence is there for all to see. Couldn't they be corrupt aswell?

Is the ATO incompetent as well ….........Centrelink as well .........Police as well ..........Federal Police as well

Very hard to stop cash payments

Wtf you talking about?

Everyone of these departments has to deal with under the table cash , whether it be wages , work , drugs etc and none can 100% police it

They are experts at it , they hire the best of the best to try and track it and stop it

And then people expect the NRL to find some magic formula that they can use that no one else has stumbled onto world wide

That what I'm talking about , catch my drift …...

 

[Fade_To_Black]

They wont be going to court..geeez…

There appears to be 2 options. The NRL softens their punishments, or we go to court. It would be naive to suggest there's no chance of court action given the amount of grey areas involved, the NRL's excessive punishments, the NRL's apartment stubbornness and the NRL's refusal to communicate during this process.

Of course the 3rd option is we bend over and take whatever Greenberg chooses to thrust into us. I can't see either Go or Pascoe being the types to do the latter, unless it was extremely clear that we were 100% in the wrong, and the punishments are fair.

Have you noticed no other clubs have taken the NRL to court over sanctions due to the cap?

They obviously knew they were in the wrong. No point taking it to court if you know you are guilty and dont have a leg to stand on.
If WT take it to court they must feel they have a case against the NRL's findings.
At the very least i would love to see a thorough independent investigation uncover some dirty laundry on the NRL and certain clubs.

 

[cochise]

Have you noticed no other clubs have taken the NRL to court over sanctions due to the cap?

Good point.

Those clubs you are referring to were red hot guilty, very much unlike Wests Tigers position. Personally I am very much looking forward to our club sticking up for what they believe in. By the way, clubs like Roosters and Broncos have been "somehow fortunate" to never have been through a sideshow such as that delivered by Greenburg on Wests tigers.

Well said Newtown, agree with you totally.
The NRL let the Broncos off the hook completely in regards to the whole Andrew Gee episode. Couldn't be bothered chasing it up because they knew they wouldnt like what was unearthed…it wouldve made the NRL look like the shonky, shoddy organisation that most fans believe it to be in any case.
The NRL see what they wanna see.

The NRL had no power to make Andrew Gee speak to them, what do you suggest they do? After that issue they made club officials register with the NRL so they would have some power moving forward. That's why Pascoe has been deregistered now.

 

[newtiger]

As far as cheating the cap? I think they are just clueless on policing it, and to be honest how do you police $20k games of golf? I dont think there is a bias.

Exactly , it's like cash jobs for tradies …..unless you actually set them up what can you do ......maybe that's the answer .......the NRL have fake people trying to set up TPA's to see how clubs actually handle them :bulb:

The only way to police TPA's is to ban them altogether. why doesn't the NRL do it?

TPA's are fine, it's the brown paper bags and the le that is the rort. How do you police that?

ATO.

 

[JD Tiger]

Their incompetence is there for all to see. Couldn't they be corrupt aswell?

Is the ATO incompetent as well ….........Centrelink as well .........Police as well ..........Federal Police as well

Very hard to stop cash payments

Wtf you talking about?

Everyone of these departments has to deal with under the table cash , whether it be wages , work , drugs etc and none can 100% police it

They are experts at it , they hire the best of the best to try and track it and stop it

And then people expect the NRL to find some magic formula that they can use that no one else has stumbled onto world wide

That what I'm talking about , catch my drift …...

I want to see the NRL actually trying to stop it. I don't expect 100%, but I expect better than 0%. With Greenburg and co, they are more likely to be involved in it rather than preventing it.

NRL should hire some 'experts', set-up some sting operations, do whatever is done to try and catch them. And before someone says 'How do you know they don't?', the NRL should publicise when they are starting to do so. That way they would be hoping to deter clubs from even trying.

 

[cochise]

Is the ATO incompetent as well ….........Centrelink as well .........Police as well ..........Federal Police as well

Very hard to stop cash payments

Wtf you talking about?

Everyone of these departments has to deal with under the table cash , whether it be wages , work , drugs etc and none can 100% police it

They are experts at it , they hire the best of the best to try and track it and stop it

And then people expect the NRL to find some magic formula that they can use that no one else has stumbled onto world wide

That what I'm talking about , catch my drift …...

I want to see the NRL actually trying to stop it. I don't expect 100%, but I expect better than 0%. With Greenburg and co, they are more likely to be involved in it rather than preventing it.

NRL should hire some 'experts', set-up some sting operations, do whatever is done to try and catch them. And before someone says 'How do you know they don't?', the NRL should publicise when they are starting to do so. That way they would be hoping to deter clubs from even trying.

They are doing better than 0%, they caught us?