Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[Cultured_Bogan]

But Roosters 200K in TPA's is above board.

Sweep sweep sweep…

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Talk about a storm in a tea cup … but wait the CEO has to be sacked ! I sometimes wonder about the thought processes on this forum at times and this does include myself sometimes.
These things happen from time to time an oversite ? A fine by the NRL and move on.,,.it is a bit of nit picking IMO by the NRL this particular incident does not give the club an advantage over another club salary cap wise,the NRL should be more protective of clubs that actually make a profit as there are not to many !

I don't think one single person has called for the CEO to be sacked. I know I and many others would think it to be the wrong move.

Pascoe would have only just started in the role at the time as well, so we're going to sack a bloke who has gone on to kick goals for us because of something he inherited when he walked in?

 

[cochise]

From reading the articles I posted earlier, it appears that after Taylor first tried to move Robbie Farah on at the end of 2015 that the club felt that Robbie Farah had been treated unfairly and as a goodwill measure offered him the Post retirement ambassador role. It is unclear if that offer was accepted or put into a contract, however the club on numerous occasions spoke to the media about that role. To cop a punishment over this issue I would hope that the NRL would have a sign contract as evidence

 

[rex2ce]

If a contract was signed, I doubt it will surface, it’s not a playing contract so does not have to be registered with nrl, denial,denial

 

[cochise]

If a contract was signed, I doubt it will surface, it’s not a playing contract so does not have to be registered with nrl, denial,denial

It's harder to deny something that you repeatedly told the media about

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

Cant really see how there will be an issue for us from this, no registered contract and we paid him 750k to leave… thats hardly undervalue in 2016..

 

[Furious1]

I'll be livid if we get pinged over this, but won't be the slightest bit surprised. The NRL has been spineless for years. Turning a blind eye to the powerful clubs while scrutinising the weaker. The backbone of a jellyfish.

 

[happy_tiger]

Wests Tigers facing salary cap punishment over Robbie Farah deal
By Andrew Webster
18 December 2018 — 12:00am

The Wests Tigers are bracing themselves for a heavy reprimand from the NRL over an alleged salary cap breach involving a lucrative post-career ambassador role for favourite son Robbie Farah.

The Herald can reveal the integrity unit will hand down the findings of its two-month investigation into the Farah deal when the ARL Commission meets at League Central on Tuesday.

At the same meeting, NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg will advise the commission if it should sanction Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan, who could possibly be sensationally deregistered over allegations he had contact with the club while serving a one-year suspension in 2014 in relation to the peptides scandal.

While the integrity unit’s findings into further salary cap breaches at Cronulla won’t be handed down until next year, the Tigers are resigned to receiving a breach notice for their deal with Farah.

The NRL has been investigating an undeclared arrangement worth more than $400,000 over four years promised to Farah during his ugly departure from the Tigers in 2016.

It is understood Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe offered the ambassador role to Farah as a show of goodwill as Farah was pushed out of the club because of a fallout with then coach Jason Taylor, who was sacked in early 2017.

As a former captain, life member and player who had made more than 200 appearances for the Tigers, Pascoe believed it was the respectful thing to do by the NSW Origin hooker.

Farah ultimately left and joined South Sydney, with the Tigers forced to pay $750,000 of his whopping $900,000 salary for the 2017 season.

He made a fairytale return to the Tigers midway through last season, played his 250th match and will now line up next year alongside long-time teammate Benji Marshall for one final season.

There is no suggestion that Farah or his agent, Sam Ayoub, have done anything wrong. Nevertheless, the Tigers are preparing themselves for a significant breach notice to be handed to them this week.

They are angry because Farah has not accepted the deal and it has had no influence on their salary cap. Their only mistake was not declaring it to the NRL — because they didn’t know they had to.

The NRL is under intense scrutiny about claims of an unfair playing field with some clubs in a better position than others to pay players outside the salary cap, which increases to $9.6 million next season.

Recent salary cap scandals involving Parramatta, Manly and now a looming crisis involving the Sharks means head office is being exceptionally vigilant about illegal payments.

Last week, in the name of greater transparency, the NRL took the unprecedented move of making public the total value of each club's third-party agreements — although chief operating officer Nick Weeks ruled out disclosing the value of individual player contracts.

The revelations concerning the Tigers come as the Sharks ready themselves for the prospect of heading into 2019 without knowing who their coach is.

Flanagan was at training on Monday and is understood to be unhappy about details of an alleged breach being leaked to the media.

He and his manager, Wayne Beavis, have not been contacted by the NRL since reports last week surfaced about his likely deregistration.

Neither the NRL, Tigers nor Farah would comment when contacted.

I can distinctly remember talk of a post career role for Robbie when he received his life membership with the WT's

Thought it may have been quashed when everything went down

The fools blaming Robbie for this :brick: :brick: :brick: :brick: :brick:

 

[yeti]

I, like most on this forum, shake my head at the hypocrisy of the NRL. What's worse is that no one is surprised.
No wonder the NRL is losing fans faster than it's gaining them.

 

[Mccarry]

I, like most on this forum, shake my head at the hypocrisy of the NRL. What's worse is that no one is surprised.
No wonder the NRL is losing fans faster than it's gaining them.

This!!!!

But, I’m trying to suspend my judgement until I hear of the sanctions.

The ‘NRL’ logo already gives me a negative emotional response. Feels dirty, slimy and dishonest as a brand.

 

[Aceshigh]

The NRL need tolook more at the rooters , broncos and storm cap rorts , lil wonder the game is attracting less fans to games , i think generally people are over the crap

 

[Telltails]

Normally I would say contest it but then the NRL will just continue to make life difficult for us with their control and decision making. Pay it and move on with as little fuss as possible.

 

[Lauren]

Wests Tigers facing salary cap punishment over Robbie Farah deal
By Andrew Webster
18 December 2018 — 12:00am

The Wests Tigers are bracing themselves for a heavy reprimand from the NRL over an alleged salary cap breach involving a lucrative post-career ambassador role for favourite son Robbie Farah.

The Herald can reveal the integrity unit will hand down the findings of its two-month investigation into the Farah deal when the ARL Commission meets at League Central on Tuesday.

At the same meeting, NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg will advise the commission if it should sanction Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan, who could possibly be sensationally deregistered over allegations he had contact with the club while serving a one-year suspension in 2014 in relation to the peptides scandal.

While the integrity unit’s findings into further salary cap breaches at Cronulla won’t be handed down until next year, the Tigers are resigned to receiving a breach notice for their deal with Farah.

The NRL has been investigating an undeclared arrangement worth more than $400,000 over four years promised to Farah during his ugly departure from the Tigers in 2016.

It is understood Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe offered the ambassador role to Farah as a show of goodwill as Farah was pushed out of the club because of a fallout with then coach Jason Taylor, who was sacked in early 2017.

As a former captain, life member and player who had made more than 200 appearances for the Tigers, Pascoe believed it was the respectful thing to do by the NSW Origin hooker.

Farah ultimately left and joined South Sydney, with the Tigers forced to pay $750,000 of his whopping $900,000 salary for the 2017 season.

He made a fairytale return to the Tigers midway through last season, played his 250th match and will now line up next year alongside long-time teammate Benji Marshall for one final season.

There is no suggestion that Farah or his agent, Sam Ayoub, have done anything wrong. Nevertheless, the Tigers are preparing themselves for a significant breach notice to be handed to them this week.

They are angry because Farah has not accepted the deal and it has had no influence on their salary cap. Their only mistake was not declaring it to the NRL — because they didn’t know they had to.

The NRL is under intense scrutiny about claims of an unfair playing field with some clubs in a better position than others to pay players outside the salary cap, which increases to $9.6 million next season.

Recent salary cap scandals involving Parramatta, Manly and now a looming crisis involving the Sharks means head office is being exceptionally vigilant about illegal payments.

Last week, in the name of greater transparency, the NRL took the unprecedented move of making public the total value of each club's third-party agreements — although chief operating officer Nick Weeks ruled out disclosing the value of individual player contracts.

The revelations concerning the Tigers come as the Sharks ready themselves for the prospect of heading into 2019 without knowing who their coach is.

Flanagan was at training on Monday and is understood to be unhappy about details of an alleged breach being leaked to the media.

He and his manager, Wayne Beavis, have not been contacted by the NRL since reports last week surfaced about his likely deregistration.

Neither the NRL, Tigers nor Farah would comment when contacted.

Thanks Willow, wasn’t exactly sure why we could get sanctioned over offering him an ambassador role.
I don’t get the Robbie blame over this, think it’s a bit misdirected. The stuff some clubs have gotten away with and continue to get away with is due to the NRL. The way Greenberg carried on over the bulldogs mad Monday stuff in comparison to (every) Sharks incident was sooo disproportionate, it’s not funny. So over the NRL turning a blind eye when it comes to certain clubs.

 

[Geo]

The only way we can be pinging is the the money for the role was in lieu of money to be received in 2016 under his existing NRL contract nothing to do with offering a job post footy which a lot of Clubs do..if we have we are dumb as dog poo..

 

[Silentio]

There appears to be some degree of poor governance here.

Surely the club knew that an offer of post-career employment would be looked at closely by the NRL?

 

[mike]

I sincerely hope that the club just doesn’t take this on the chin but instead fights the NRL with every legal avenue open to them. I feel that will be the only way we will ever be taken seriously by the NRL.

 

[Cairnstigers]

(The NRL has no problems with clubs offering ambassadorial roles to star players for life after football but would monitor the deals to ensure they were not paid less during the final years of their playing career or paid excessively for their new jobs in retirement)

I wonder if the NRL uses this as a guide when teams like the Roosters sign players like Tedesco for less than what he is on in the open market
Surely we offered more to Teddy than what the Roosters ended up paying for him on the books
So why does Tedescos real value not count against the Roosters cap
Do they get penalized
NO
Sounds like double standards if they think we received an advantage to get Farah because they think we paid less than what he is worth

I want to know how the NRL knows what Farah is worth

Is the board of the NRL open to having there own personal bank accounts looked at independently
Are they receiving payments to look the other way
Brown paper bags perhaps

 

[prattenparkchild]

Have to say now that details of what they apparently have their noses out of joint on, if the NRL go to fine the club I'd say KMA and see you in court. An offer that was not accepted, an offer for after football life, no signed contract anywhere, and the player was going to another club where WT were freely subsidising a large part of their upcoming salary. I've no problems with NRL trying to install boundaries around player inducements etc but I think this instance is way off base.

Edit- in addition this was widely reported in the press at the time. If the NRL had a problem with it, then was the time to say something, not now.

 

[balmain boy]

The only way we can be pinging is the the money for the role was in lieu of money to be received in 2016 under his existing NRL contract nothing to do with offering a job post footy which a lot of Clubs do..if we have we are dumb as dog poo..

Considering we still chipped in something like 700k for his salary at Souths it doesn't appear to be in lieu of anything.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

This whole scenario is laughable. I don't know if an in principal agreement is as secure as a signed contract. I find it bizarre that the NRL feels we need to be dragged over the coals for this however. Truly bizarre. They think we're crap - everyone thinks we're crap, but they think we're so crap that we can't even "cheat" well. Go ahead and fine us. We'll have the last laugh when we finish top 9 again next year.