Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[cochise]

To quote Midnight Oil, "Sometimes you've got to take the hardest line".

Greenberg's an individual under immense pressure in an effort to appear to be in control has absolutely blotched this cap issue with the Tigers. From my experience of following the game if the penalty handed out to the Tigers is the correct one then this must be one the most serious case of rorting the salary cap ever.

The key issue now is the INTEGRITY of the NRL and its SALARY CAP. Is it a level playing field for all 16 teams? If it is termed above board we become a major casualty, but if it is deemed not then we become heroes for the sides that do abide by it.

It is just terribly unfortunate that we are caught in the middle.

This is why the Tigers have to go to court, it is not only about us, it is about whether there is a long-term future for the game regardless of the outcome.
NRL journalists opinions on our situation are pointless they all have vested interests.

Everything in life has an end, the NRL with its current leadership is well on the way to reaching its end. The AFL through strong leadership continues to prosper the NRL continues to be engulfed in the mire because of non-existent leadership.

Midnight Oil again, " It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees".

What in the penalties would equate to this being the worst cap rorting in the history of the NRL?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If, and its a very big if, relocation was the agenda then WT are their own worst enemy. The stupid 5 home ground merry go round year after year makes it hard to argue that you're a settled club with strong roots in the community. The sooner this club stops trying to appease everyone and picks one ground as its home ground the stronger it will be. With one home ground and a solid financial setup there is no way WT would be relocated. Also this isn't an L oval vs C vs WSS - just pick one and play 12 games a year there.

Carrington Park Bathurst.

Only an hour and 20 from my place. Nearly takes as long to get to LO.

 

[Newtown]

To quote Midnight Oil, "Sometimes you've got to take the hardest line".

Greenberg's an individual under immense pressure in an effort to appear to be in control has absolutely blotched this cap issue with the Tigers. From my experience of following the game if the penalty handed out to the Tigers is the correct one then this must be one the most serious case of rorting the salary cap ever.

The key issue now is the INTEGRITY of the NRL and its SALARY CAP. Is it a level playing field for all 16 teams? If it is termed above board we become a major casualty, but if it is deemed not then we become heroes for the sides that do abide by it.

It is just terribly unfortunate that we are caught in the middle.

This is why the Tigers have to go to court, it is not only about us, it is about whether there is a long-term future for the game regardless of the outcome.
NRL journalists opinions on our situation are pointless they all have vested interests.

Everything in life has an end, the NRL with its current leadership is well on the way to reaching its end. The AFL through strong leadership continues to prosper the NRL continues to be engulfed in the mire because of non-existent leadership.

Midnight Oil again, " It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees".

What in the penalties would equate to this being the worst cap rorting in the history of the NRL?

The Melbourne CAP rort found out after they won the premiership would come close

 

[mike]

Danny Weidler in his column warning WTs not to go to court. because of the evidence against us, the history of lack of success with Manly and Eels and interestingly the so called "damaging conduct" issue. He said he has been given some inside info and curiously there is an attempt to discredit Marina Go. All seems a bit pointed towards two of our figures at the club for my liking. Is TG a bit insecure about his position?

A totally uncritically 100% pro NRL article I thought.

So the club made an error and should be fined and possibly some sanction against Pasco. But can Weidler explain the specific logic as to why money should come out of he cap before any payments are made under the ambassor contract? The cap penalty is a major sanction against the club.

And can Weidler explain why Pasco has been placed in isolation? That seems to me a disgrace.

Is the NRL a dictatorship which should not ever be challenged?

Without knowing the full story ….. and i am sure their are few on here that do, I really don't think the Tigers should be taking advice from a journo, If WTs believe what they have publicly stated and there has been no monies traded between the club and the recipient than its nothing more than speculation.
Where is the money?
Has the advantage been gained over an opposition?
Was their other clubs lining up to sign Farah for a post playing career role?
Has Pascoe and Go raided the market with the this so called advantage?
These are the reasons they need to fight Greenberg and the NRL, To be delegated a sentence without a justification or a realistic chance to prove innocence, where does that leave anybody(Clubs)financially invested in the game of rugby league.
If this is a genuine mistake and not a direct cap rort then the Tigers should fight it......Our major sponsors are Brydens Laywers....Get some of those guys involved and take it all the way.
If every team just folds whenever the NRL hands down a punishment it will become a monopoly.

And if this incident causes the downfall of the NRL we can be proud that it was us that did it :supporter: :wink:

I agree with that. At the very least the dismantling of the current Salary Cap arrangements. Despite what TG thinks the current arrangements are not simple nor are they easy to understand. The disparity between clubs and how they use (exploit) Salary Cap arrangements is a blight on the NRL.

 

[851]

Take them to court, get them to explain how easts and Brisbane are cap compliant, get the salaries released, and lets see what they are supposedly getting paid

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Take them to court, get them to explain how easts and Brisbane are cap compliant, get the salaries released, and lets see what they are supposedly getting paid

I’m sure the judge would say something like “Ok, and how is that relevant to your situation?” What aboutism isn’t a defence.

 

[851]

Take them to court, get them to explain how easts and Brisbane are cap compliant, get the salaries released, and lets see what they are supposedly getting paid

I’m sure the judge would say something like “Ok, and how is that relevant to your situation?” What aboutism isn’t a defence.

It is relevant because they are supposedly compliant and we are not, look at the rosters, how is this possible, the NRL are not showing due diligence with each club and its salary cap situation, they are only looking at certain clubs, not all clubs equally

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Take them to court, get them to explain how easts and Brisbane are cap compliant, get the salaries released, and lets see what they are supposedly getting paid

I’m sure the judge would say something like “Ok, and how is that relevant to your situation?” What aboutism isn’t a defence.

It is relevant because they are supposedly compliant and we are not, look at the rosters, how is this possible, the NRL are not showing due diligence with each club and its salary cap situation, they are only looking at certain clubs, not all clubs equally

Even if they aren’t compliant, it doesn’t exonerate us if we did something wrong.

 

[diedpretty]

This next month is going to be interesting - 30 days of conjecture on here and in the media about what WT will do. Hopefully the club and board remain very tight lipped about their intentions.

 

[newtiger]

If, and its a very big if, relocation was the agenda then WT are their own worst enemy. The stupid 5 home ground merry go round year after year makes it hard to argue that you're a settled club with strong roots in the community. The sooner this club stops trying to appease everyone and picks one ground as its home ground the stronger it will be. With one home ground and a solid financial setup there is no way WT would be relocated. Also this isn't an L oval vs C vs WSS - just pick one and play 12 games a year there.

Carrington Park Bathurst.

Only an hour and 20 from my place. Nearly takes as long to get to LO.

5 minute drive for me.

 

[happy_tiger]

Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

The hit to our cap is only one issue.

The other is the attack on the integrity of our CEO and also what I perceived to be a veiled swipe at the integrity of our Chair by Danny Weidler in his weasel words column today in the SMH.

 

[happy_tiger]

Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

The hit to our cap is only one issue.

The other is the attack on the integrity of our CEO and also what I perceived to be a veiled swipe at the integrity of our Chair by Danny Weidler in his weasel words column today in the SMH.

True but obviously are salary cap will effect our on field performance , why spread the hurt over 4 seasons

 

[mike]

Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

I agree with you there Happy. If the ruling sticks, then rip the bandaid off.

 

[happy_tiger]

Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

I agree with you there Happy. If the ruling sticks, then rip the bandaid off.

Best analogy I can think of Mike

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

I agree with you there Happy. If the ruling sticks, then rip the bandaid off.

Best analogy I can think of Mike

Was thinking same thing. We got big cap space 2020 and 2019 mostly full anyway.

 

[bbobb]

Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

The hit to our cap is only one issue.

The other is the attack on the integrity of our CEO and also what I perceived to be a veiled swipe at the integrity of our Chair by Danny Weidler in his weasel words column today in the SMH.

True but obviously are salary cap will effect our on field performance , why spread the hurt over 4 seasons

Fair point Happy but I’d like to know if the cap is likely to move upward in that period. If that is the case the percentage becomes less and obviously less of a hit.

Sadly, if we choose that path, I wouldn’t put it past the NRL to index the penalty based on today’s value - in that case, I think you’re right to take the hit now.

 

[happy_tiger]

Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

The hit to our cap is only one issue.

The other is the attack on the integrity of our CEO and also what I perceived to be a veiled swipe at the integrity of our Chair by Danny Weidler in his weasel words column today in the SMH.

True but obviously are salary cap will effect our on field performance , why spread the hurt over 4 seasons

Fair point Happy but I’d like to know if the cap is likely to move upward in that period. If that is the case the percentage becomes less and obviously less of a hit.

Sadly, if we choose that path, I wouldn’t put it past the NRL to index the penalty based on today’s value - in that case, I think you’re right to take the hit now.

In all reality 2019 isn't going to be part of our premiership window

2020-22 could / should be a completely different story

 

[Plato]

Ripping the bandaid off is well and good for this little wound, but if it happens that we are part of larger plans I can guarantee there will be more hurt to come. I don't know what the answer is, but I just hope we go down swinging and the public gets to see the NRL for what they truly are.

 

[sheer64]

Ripping the bandaid off is well and good for this little wound, but if it happens that we are part of larger plans I can guarantee there will be more hurt to come. I don't know what the answer is, but I just hope we go down swinging and the public gets to see the NRL for what they truly are.

Goulds one western sydney team.