Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[Telltails]

There is a difference between being a destabilising player and an ambassador several years later. I see no connection

Agree - especially when the other person who was instrumental in the cause of the destabilization is long gone. It is really not too difficult to understand given it was well documented at the time how ugly the player/coach relationship was.

 

[fibrodreaming]

There is a difference between being a destabilising player and an ambassador several years later. I see no connection

I agree. I've always thought that it was a red herring and that the NRL used it as part of their PR campaign against the club.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Yep you are right, I didn't mean it was only millenials, just that with the pill testing in the news they come to mind, there are all ages who are looking for someone to own their problems.
I have 2 kids one who will be 18 in 3 weeks and one who is 20, I have banged on to them their whole lives about taking ownership of their lives, and life choices, they have known from day dot I have zero tolerance to drugs.
I don't mind them partying, but you don't need drugs to party, have a drink fine, they have both turned out ok, the youngest got DUX of year 12 at the local high school last year, with an ATAR of 93.2.
They are hard workers but also like a break from the grind, which is fine and I encourage them to do this, but some of their school friends were doing drugs a long time ago, and they chose to refuse them, which made me quite proud.

851 and CB ,Iam approaching 62 yrs of age and never have blamed anyone for what I have indulged in during my life..Beer,wine bourbon and plenty of winfield gold when at my peak,however I have never injected drugs,swallowed pills or gorged on hash cookies for a great night out,without being a hypocrite I have had the odd joint with mates on the rare occasion and that was all I have had..the trouble is these days the younger generation think its cool to pop pills on top of plenty of alcohol before they go out on the town and king hit innocent people or make other peoples night out unenjoyable,I dont say it is all but most think its a groovy thing to do to make other peoples night out a drama…

Yeah that's cool TT. I wasn't saying everyone was like that. Seems to be a shift in society where everyone from all ages and walks of life adopt that view that it is always someone else's fault.

Most people can have a few disco bikkies or a line or two and not upset anyone. It's always a handful that can't handle their piss/drugs that ruin it for everyone else.

One thing I will say: I've never seen anyone smash a joint or a few cones and want to kill someone. Just saying.

Just cos you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen….

Marijuana can cause psychosis and paranoid schizophrenia.

Yes, marijuana can cause psychosis, but the risks have been studied and they are incredibly low as it depends on a number of factors. The link that marijuana **_causes_** Schizophrenia are extremely tenuous, the link is more so accepted that people with Schizophrenia are more likely to use it, and it is more likely to experience long term psychiatric effects in those with Schizophrenia as it is a psychoactive drug. Schizophrenics will use and mix other drugs as well as they self medicate.

People often think that marijuana use causes Schizophrenia, this is not correct. At this point it is not known to cause Schizophrenia in those without the risk factors. If you are pre-disposed, it certainly can exacerbate it.

Too much of anything is not good for you. I've never smoked a couple of joints and then tried to fly. I have mates who vary in usage from here and there like me and then full blown stoners. None of them were ever aggressive on it.

Most people have a few drinks and have a good time. A few get on the squirt and think they are Mike Tyson and ruin the night for others.

 

[851]

Sounds like Moses to me.

out-of-Sydney club

The talk was the bronco's, so who is a star who played not very well last year, Milford or Bird perhaps, I am sure we will find out soon enough

Think Titans
Think of a player that was only HALF as good as he should have been
There's your answer…..thank me later.

Cheers Swordy, I heard a QLD team, just thought Bronco's

 

[Spartan117]

I totally agree CB. I have actually just come back on the forum for the first time since Greenberg’s press conference. I was so angry and upset I was ready to walk away from following the game. I was thinking I’d rather WT go down all guns blazing than cop this crap from the NRL. There should be a campaign to get rid of Greenberg after the mess he’s created. The guy is either incompetent or corrupt.

MIghtyMagpie.
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I don't think I have agreed with a post more in the years I have been here on this beloved forum.

This is precisely how I feel. I am astounded at the level of anger and betrayal I feel over this travesty.

Justin Pascoe has done such a great job with what he has in particular turning a massive loss in terms of PR (Cleary debacle) into a WIN WIN WIN…

Greenburg rubbed out the man that would have been in line to replace his inept tenure in and when the Tigers made the Semis a few years in a row.

I really hope the Tigers are reading these threads and understand the level of support that the League community have for them to take this all the way.

 

[newtiger]

Yep you are right, I didn't mean it was only millenials, just that with the pill testing in the news they come to mind, there are all ages who are looking for someone to own their problems.
I have 2 kids one who will be 18 in 3 weeks and one who is 20, I have banged on to them their whole lives about taking ownership of their lives, and life choices, they have known from day dot I have zero tolerance to drugs.
I don't mind them partying, but you don't need drugs to party, have a drink fine, they have both turned out ok, the youngest got DUX of year 12 at the local high school last year, with an ATAR of 93.2.
They are hard workers but also like a break from the grind, which is fine and I encourage them to do this, but some of their school friends were doing drugs a long time ago, and they chose to refuse them, which made me quite proud.

851 and CB ,Iam approaching 62 yrs of age and never have blamed anyone for what I have indulged in during my life..Beer,wine bourbon and plenty of winfield gold when at my peak,however I have never injected drugs,swallowed pills or gorged on hash cookies for a great night out,without being a hypocrite I have had the odd joint with mates on the rare occasion and that was all I have had..the trouble is these days the younger generation think its cool to pop pills on top of plenty of alcohol before they go out on the town and king hit innocent people or make other peoples night out unenjoyable,I dont say it is all but most think its a groovy thing to do to make other peoples night out a drama…

Yeah that's cool TT. I wasn't saying everyone was like that. Seems to be a shift in society where everyone from all ages and walks of life adopt that view that it is always someone else's fault.

Most people can have a few disco bikkies or a line or two and not upset anyone. It's always a handful that can't handle their piss/drugs that ruin it for everyone else.

One thing I will say: I've never seen anyone smash a joint or a few cones and want to kill someone. Just saying.

Just cos you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen….

Marijuana can cause psychosis and paranoid schizophrenia.

Now you know why Mental Health Units are overloaded, and the Government has to put Millions into the health system to cope with the extra workload because of drug related mental health issues.

 

[Telltails]

I really dont think drug/alchohol issues are any more prevalent these days with young people than they were in times past. It is just that we are more aware of it due to the level of media we have access to these days and we have a much larger population.
If anything young people are generally far more responsible in terms of drinking and driving than they were in my parents and my own youth, when most regularly took the risk at driving over limit.
The drugs may be different these days and we may read more about it, but get a bit over the suggestion that young people these days are any different to young people in any generation when it comes to experimenting with drugs and alcohol.

 

[earl]

Marijuana can cause psychosis and paranoid schizophrenia.

It's be great if you could prove this unfortunately you can't. I have a friend who has schizophrenia. A lot of us smoked a lot of marijuana. He didn't. His drug of choice was alcohol. If the working assumption is that alcohol causes schizophrenia then maybe we have some proof but in reality people just develop schizophrenia and we don't know why apart from hereditary reasons.

Schizophrenia is no joke. It ruins people's lives.

 

[Demps]

851 and CB ,Iam approaching 62 yrs of age and never have blamed anyone for what I have indulged in during my life..Beer,wine bourbon and plenty of winfield gold when at my peak,however I have never injected drugs,swallowed pills or gorged on hash cookies for a great night out,without being a hypocrite I have had the odd joint with mates on the rare occasion and that was all I have had..the trouble is these days the younger generation think its cool to pop pills on top of plenty of alcohol before they go out on the town and king hit innocent people or make other peoples night out unenjoyable,I dont say it is all but most think its a groovy thing to do to make other peoples night out a drama…

Yeah that's cool TT. I wasn't saying everyone was like that. Seems to be a shift in society where everyone from all ages and walks of life adopt that view that it is always someone else's fault.

Most people can have a few disco bikkies or a line or two and not upset anyone. It's always a handful that can't handle their piss/drugs that ruin it for everyone else.

One thing I will say: I've never seen anyone smash a joint or a few cones and want to kill someone. Just saying.

Just cos you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen….

Marijuana can cause psychosis and paranoid schizophrenia.

Yes, marijuana can cause psychosis, but the risks have been studied and they are incredibly low as it depends on a number of factors. The link that marijuana **_causes_** Schizophrenia are extremely tenuous, the link is more so accepted that people with Schizophrenia are more likely to use it, and it is more likely to experience long term psychiatric effects in those with Schizophrenia as it is a psychoactive drug. Schizophrenics will use and mix other drugs as well as they self medicate.

People often think that marijuana use causes Schizophrenia, this is not correct. At this point it is not known to cause Schizophrenia in those without the risk factors. If you are pre-disposed, it certainly can exacerbate it.

Too much of anything is not good for you. I've never smoked a couple of joints and then tried to fly. I have mates who vary in usage from here and there like me and then full blown stoners. None of them were ever aggressive on it.

Most people have a few drinks and have a good time. A few get on the squirt and think they are Mike Tyson and ruin the night for others.

Funny you mention Mike.

He is an avid smoker of the green and is opening a crop / wellness centre called Tyson Ranch where they hope to distribute nation wide (America)

He was on a recent Joe Rogan podcast… and all they did was talk about drugs.

 

[Demps]

Marijuana can cause psychosis and paranoid schizophrenia.

It's be great if you could prove this unfortunately you can't. I have a friend who has schizophrenia. A lot of us smoked a lot of marijuana. He didn't. His drug of choice was alcohol. If the working assumption is that alcohol causes schizophrenia then maybe we have some proof but in reality people just develop schizophrenia and we don't know why apart from hereditary reasons.

Schizophrenia is no joke. It ruins people's lives.

Schizophrenia is very complex.
Some people are born with it or it presents it's self later in life.

However I believe there is one that is self inflicted from drug use.
Supposedly this one is "treatable." Marijuana users who get paranoid schizophrenia have stated the B12 shot cures it for them… Not sure if it's temporary or permanent as I haven't suffered from such illness.

To say it is unprovable is a stretch though. Some one with no family history of the disease who is a heavy drug user (marijuana).... hey, if the shoe fits.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Yeah that's cool TT. I wasn't saying everyone was like that. Seems to be a shift in society where everyone from all ages and walks of life adopt that view that it is always someone else's fault.

Most people can have a few disco bikkies or a line or two and not upset anyone. It's always a handful that can't handle their piss/drugs that ruin it for everyone else.

One thing I will say: I've never seen anyone smash a joint or a few cones and want to kill someone. Just saying.

Just cos you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen….

Marijuana can cause psychosis and paranoid schizophrenia.

Yes, marijuana can cause psychosis, but the risks have been studied and they are incredibly low as it depends on a number of factors. The link that marijuana **_causes_** Schizophrenia are extremely tenuous, the link is more so accepted that people with Schizophrenia are more likely to use it, and it is more likely to experience long term psychiatric effects in those with Schizophrenia as it is a psychoactive drug. Schizophrenics will use and mix other drugs as well as they self medicate.

People often think that marijuana use causes Schizophrenia, this is not correct. At this point it is not known to cause Schizophrenia in those without the risk factors. If you are pre-disposed, it certainly can exacerbate it.

Too much of anything is not good for you. I've never smoked a couple of joints and then tried to fly. I have mates who vary in usage from here and there like me and then full blown stoners. None of them were ever aggressive on it.

Most people have a few drinks and have a good time. A few get on the squirt and think they are Mike Tyson and ruin the night for others.

Funny you mention Mike.

He is an avid smoker of the green and is opening a crop / wellness centre called Tyson Ranch where they hope to distribute nation wide (America)

He was on a recent Joe Rogan podcast… and all they did was talk about drugs.

Find me an episode where Rogan **_doesn't_** mention DMT in the first half an hour.

 

[Demps]

Just cos you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen….

Marijuana can cause psychosis and paranoid schizophrenia.

Yes, marijuana can cause psychosis, but the risks have been studied and they are incredibly low as it depends on a number of factors. The link that marijuana **_causes_** Schizophrenia are extremely tenuous, the link is more so accepted that people with Schizophrenia are more likely to use it, and it is more likely to experience long term psychiatric effects in those with Schizophrenia as it is a psychoactive drug. Schizophrenics will use and mix other drugs as well as they self medicate.

People often think that marijuana use causes Schizophrenia, this is not correct. At this point it is not known to cause Schizophrenia in those without the risk factors. If you are pre-disposed, it certainly can exacerbate it.

Too much of anything is not good for you. I've never smoked a couple of joints and then tried to fly. I have mates who vary in usage from here and there like me and then full blown stoners. None of them were ever aggressive on it.

Most people have a few drinks and have a good time. A few get on the squirt and think they are Mike Tyson and ruin the night for others.

Funny you mention Mike.

He is an avid smoker of the green and is opening a crop / wellness centre called Tyson Ranch where they hope to distribute nation wide (America)

He was on a recent Joe Rogan podcast… and all they did was talk about drugs.

Find me an episode where Rogan **_doesn't_** mention DMT in the first half an hour.

Lol, there's heaps but I was disappointed with the Mike Tyson one.
Said he doesn't workout, doesn't like boxing and wants to get as far away from it as possible.
Just talked drugs mostly… Not my thing.

Nick Yarris one is a good one.

Stallone is an upcoming guest too.
Looking forward to that one.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Yes, marijuana can cause psychosis, but the risks have been studied and they are incredibly low as it depends on a number of factors. The link that marijuana **_causes_** Schizophrenia are extremely tenuous, the link is more so accepted that people with Schizophrenia are more likely to use it, and it is more likely to experience long term psychiatric effects in those with Schizophrenia as it is a psychoactive drug. Schizophrenics will use and mix other drugs as well as they self medicate.

People often think that marijuana use causes Schizophrenia, this is not correct. At this point it is not known to cause Schizophrenia in those without the risk factors. If you are pre-disposed, it certainly can exacerbate it.

Too much of anything is not good for you. I've never smoked a couple of joints and then tried to fly. I have mates who vary in usage from here and there like me and then full blown stoners. None of them were ever aggressive on it.

Most people have a few drinks and have a good time. A few get on the squirt and think they are Mike Tyson and ruin the night for others.

Funny you mention Mike.

He is an avid smoker of the green and is opening a crop / wellness centre called Tyson Ranch where they hope to distribute nation wide (America)

He was on a recent Joe Rogan podcast… and all they did was talk about drugs.

Find me an episode where Rogan **_doesn't_** mention DMT in the first half an hour.

Lol, there's heaps but I was disappointed with the Mike Tyson one.
Said he doesn't workout, doesn't like boxing and wants to get as far away from it as possible.
Just talked drugs mostly… Not my thing.

Nick Yarris one is a good one.

Stallone is an upcoming guest too.
Looking forward to that one.

Without getting too off-track, I enjoy his chats with Brian Cox, NDT & Elon Musk. They were all quality chat.

 

[Demps]

Funny you mention Mike.

He is an avid smoker of the green and is opening a crop / wellness centre called Tyson Ranch where they hope to distribute nation wide (America)

He was on a recent Joe Rogan podcast… and all they did was talk about drugs.

Find me an episode where Rogan **_doesn't_** mention DMT in the first half an hour.

Lol, there's heaps but I was disappointed with the Mike Tyson one.
Said he doesn't workout, doesn't like boxing and wants to get as far away from it as possible.
Just talked drugs mostly… Not my thing.

Nick Yarris one is a good one.

Stallone is an upcoming guest too.
Looking forward to that one.

Without getting too off-track, I enjoy his chats with Brian Cox, NDT & Elon Musk. They were all quality chat.

There is a lot of quality - all depends on the guests.
I love all the MMA talk and guests however I was disappointed with the big name guests such as Mel Gibson, McCauly Culkin and Mike Tyson.

Mike Tyson has his own Podcast too - HOT BOXIN WITH MIKE TYSON.
He's lucky he has the muscly white guy running the show because Mike contributes minimal.

Really enjoyed the Danny Trejo ep despite being quite short.
Expect big things for that podcast but again, Mike hasn't got the charisma or intelligence and usually just giggles in the background whilst blazing. Just a name to add to the title.

 

[hammertime]

There is a difference between being a destabilising player and an ambassador several years later. I see no connection

I agree. I've always thought that it was a red herring and that the NRL used it as part of their PR campaign against the club.

x2\. It's a competition. Pascoe was just trying to get as much as he could squeeze out of the cap. As would any other team. Nothing to see there.

 

[The_Patriot]

Good to see people sticking to the topic. The crap i just read errr

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Settle down it was a gradual diversion. It happens in threads.

It's just an opinion mate :wink:

 

[gallagher]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/23/wests-tigers-submit-response-to-nrl-breach-notice/

We're admitting fault but fighting the punishment.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Back to Greenburg, he has aligned himself with the current State Govt over the Stadiums. It will be interesting if Daley wins because things could turn unpleasant for him. I guess most WTs' supporters would like to imagine Greenburg with his testicles in a vice.

 

[TheDaBoss]

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Wests Tigers submit response to NRL breach notice
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The Wests Tigers have submitted their response to the breach notices issued by the NRL last month as they look to downgrade the severity of the punishment they face.

NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg stunned the Tigers before Christmas when he hit the club with a pending $750,000 fine – and a salary cap reduction of $639,000 in 2019 – for not declaring a post-career arrangement with Robbie Farah when he left the club in 2016.

As a result, chief executive Justin Pascoe was also deregistered.
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The club was given until the end of January to submit its response, however in a bid to fast-track a decision and remove the cloud over the club's head, both the Tigers and Pascoe submitted their respective paperwork to the NRL on Tuesday.

It's understood the Tigers are accepting responsibility for mismanagement but believe the punishment is heavy-handed given they believe they gained no competitive advantage from a deal that Farah is yet to collect a dollar for, or even decide to take up.

It's understood Pascoe has decided to link with Brydens Lawyers principal Lee Hagipantelis, who also happens to sponsor the Tigers and several other rugby league teams, to represent him.

In December, Tigers chair Marina Go released the following statement: "We do not accept the allegations outlined in the breach notice.

"We reject that the club has breached the NRL rules or that our conduct warrants the sanctions proposed. The breach notice relates to events that occurred some time ago, in relation to an ambassador role for Robbie post-retirement.

"The arrangement was entered into years after his playing contract had been signed and had nothing to do with Robbie's playing commitments. The club derived no competitive advantage