Paul Momirovski

[Telltails]

Shows how bad we've been for a decade when a player like Momers can get so much attention... at almost every other club he's just an okay player but we've got fans talking about him like he's Mal Meninga

Good on him, had a solid season and got his ring. Having him at tigers would've made very little difference this year

His defence would of made a huge difference this season alone, Robinson didn’t want him to leave the Roosters Bellamy wanted him and Clearly also wanted him, but he wasn’t good enough for WT, go figure.

? yeah it is ridiculous.
The comments by our fans are displaying an unearned arrogance.
The bloke has played for 4 clubs in 4 years and 3 of them won the premiership.

Are you suggesting he is the modern day James Maloney - who almost single handedly changes the fortunes at each club he is at?

More like modern day Shane Elford - good solid FGer

 

[NT_Tiger]

Like to congratulate this guy


Hell of a player

Solid player.
Never should have made that trade.
We only needed to stay patient to get Laurie anyway.

This!
I have been sitting on the fence re Maguire, but not any more.
Maguire asks us all to be patient, "we're building a team, it takes time." The Momirovski trade flies in the face of that.
If we had waited, we would have two good players, not one, next season.
It looks to me like Maguire was chasing some instant gratification instead of patiently building (getting it right) and as a result made a questionable retention decision. The fact that Momirovski can walk straight into the starting 17 of a now premiership side tells me that Maguire missed something there.
That is, of course, unless the decision came from above.

Momoirovski didn't have a contract for nest year.

Oh, Righto. Did we offer him one?

 

[twentyforty]

Paul Momirovski has played for teams that won 3 premierships in the past 4 years with 3 different clubs ... the one he didn't get? His year at Wests Tigers where they finished 9th


* 2018 - Roosters (played the prelim but was relegated to the extended bench for the GF)

* 2019 - Wests Tigers

* 2020 - Melbourne Storm on loan from Tigers (injured)

* 2021 - Penrith Panthers starting centre.

Going back even further,

* 2016- Started at 5/8 as part of the Roosters winning Holden Cup side (comeback win against the Panthers, the match ft. Dyl Edwards, Liam Martin, Joey Manu and Victor Radley among others).

* 2017- Starting Centre for Wyong Roos who lost in the NSW Cup GF against the Panthers (side ft. Luai, Kikau, Leota)

In the past 6 years he's been part of 5 teams/squads that have made the GF, 4 of which they won. Insane record

Congrats to the bloke. Well deserved

I guess what that shows is, clubs with a winning formula have wanted him in their team. Something I don’t understand though? Why did he arrive at the Tigers? And why did we extend his contract prior to the Storm swap?
Part of the “change in direction” strategy?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Tonight showed that Benji should call it quits.

I don't think he is going to, will hang around hoping for a contract.

Like a fart that just won’t blow away

I can't really rag on him too much for it lol, if I had a chance to play one more year of footy I would. Changes your life when you stop.

I can, I think he truly believes he still has it. He doesn’t. He doesn’t realise he’s been able to hide all his deficiencies behind a strong team.

Yeah he 100% believes he still has it, he has been told all his life how good he is. Do you think those close to him have stopped telling him that? And the ones that did he stops listening to and listens more to the ones still telling him what he wants to hear. He is still that kid that burst onto the scenes years ago and likely suffers from peter pan syndrome. He gives up footy and all that goes away. I honestly get it.

Willie Mason was the same late in his career. Playing on till his mid to late 30’s. Can’t step out of the limelight.

The limelight, plus the only place they have really made friends. It is also the only thing they have known for most of their lives. Really hard things to give up and some do it better than others. Its also why he comes across dirty on the tigers as they told him he was done and he is not ready for that, can't accept it.

I will also state this is all from the outside looking in and I could be completely wrong lol.

I don’t think you are far off the mark.

The club has to take some responisibility for it too, as we encouraged him to grow up that way, made excuses for him etc.

To be fair if he jumps on a plane to the other side of the world , he could probably get 2 years , and look a million bucks doing it .

He should do it, i don't think he wants to though.

Yea definitely. Winning a challenge cup would be a nice footnote on his career. But I get it , he’s deeply entrenched here . And it’s reAlly hard to convince the miso to move , if she’s not open to the idea. Near on impossible I would say for most of us .

 

[Swordy]

Momo - I wish him the best and good luck to him, never did the dirty on us and has played as a depth player at other strong clubs. He isn't a future immortal.

But I wonder what some would do on here in this situation.....

You have a fullback (Mbye) who is keen to leave and we are happy for him to leave and that was late 2020. if he does get a gig somewhere and bails, we have no fullback. Doeuhi might be, but everyone says leave him at 6, his best position for now. So if Mbye leaves, who is the fullback? - So you look where you have depth and potentially Momorovski is the best saleable depth player. BJ and Roberst are on their last club....us. Talau isn't ready and whilst you offer him, there are no bites.

You need to get a fullback in to a) cover your spot and b) if Mbye stays a little longer, he is the utility.

So a swap Laurie<>Momo swap is the obvious. As you are aware, Momo asked for a number of releases and these were rejected because the club needed to get everything it could out of the deal.

To me the above is fact, and the only outcome where each party are happy is what occurred. And I think the club played it very sensibly in the circumstances. So I think we should avoid the suggestion that Momorovski was totally unloved by the club and we couldnt wait to get rid of him. Closer to the opposite, his value to us was better as a swap. Simple really.

 

[happy_tiger]

The ex girlfriend that just keeps getting hotter and hotter

Or the girl you went to school who was maybe a 5 in high school. You see her a couple years later and she’s a 10. Had experience there a couple of times.

Or the girl who was a 10 at 1.00 am ...and at 10.00 am she turns into a 1 ......

 

[tigerbalm]

I just remember him as the guy that missed a relatively easy conversion.

 

[hobbo1]

Average nuffie wins comp by default

 

[Tiger5150]

Like to congratulate this guy


Hell of a player

Solid player.
Never should have made that trade.
We only needed to stay patient to get Laurie anyway.

This!
I have been sitting on the fence re Maguire, but not any more.
Maguire asks us all to be patient, "we're building a team, it takes time." The Momirovski trade flies in the face of that.
If we had waited, we would have two good players, not one, next season.
It looks to me like Maguire was chasing some instant gratification instead of patiently building (getting it right) and as a result made a questionable retention decision. The fact that Momirovski can walk straight into the starting 17 of a now premiership side tells me that Maguire missed something there.
That is, of course, unless the decision came from above.

Momoirovski didn't have a contract for nest year.

You and your pesky facts....

You cant bash the club with that...

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

I just remember him as the guy that missed a relatively easy conversion.

Arguably could have got the Tigers into the 8 too if he didn't shank that relatively easy kick vs the dogs in '19

 

[Tiger5150]

Momo - I wish him the best and good luck to him, never did the dirty on us and has played as a depth player at other strong clubs. He isn't a future immortal.

But I wonder what some would do on here in this situation.....

You have a fullback (Mbye) who is keen to leave and we are happy for him to leave and that was late 2020. if he does get a gig somewhere and bails, we have no fullback. Doeuhi might be, but everyone says leave him at 6, his best position for now. So if Mbye leaves, who is the fullback? - So you look where you have depth and potentially Momorovski is the best saleable depth player. BJ and Roberst are on their last club....us. Talau isn't ready and whilst you offer him, there are no bites.

You need to get a fullback in to a) cover your spot and b) if Mbye stays a little longer, he is the utility.

So a swap Laurie<>Momo swap is the obvious. As you are aware, Momo asked for a number of releases and these were rejected because the club needed to get everything it could out of the deal.

To me the above is fact, and the only outcome where each party are happy is what occurred. And I think the club played it very sensibly in the circumstances. So I think we should avoid the suggestion that Momorovski was totally unloved by the club and we couldnt wait to get rid of him. Closer to the opposite, his value to us was better as a swap. Simple really.

Facts are useless if they cant be used to bash the club.....keep them to yourself please.

 

[cochise]

Like to congratulate this guy


Hell of a player

Solid player.
Never should have made that trade.
We only needed to stay patient to get Laurie anyway.

This!
I have been sitting on the fence re Maguire, but not any more.
Maguire asks us all to be patient, "we're building a team, it takes time." The Momirovski trade flies in the face of that.
If we had waited, we would have two good players, not one, next season.
It looks to me like Maguire was chasing some instant gratification instead of patiently building (getting it right) and as a result made a questionable retention decision. The fact that Momirovski can walk straight into the starting 17 of a now premiership side tells me that Maguire missed something there.
That is, of course, unless the decision came from above.

Momoirovski didn't have a contract for nest year.

Oh, Righto. Did we offer him one?

I don't know, but to me getting someone we intend on being a long term part of the squad over to us was more important than keeping a plug and play centre. Momo is a good 1st grade footballer that will do his job in any team he plays in. In a star studded team he is the perfect player as he doesn't chew up you cap and will be reliable. In a bottom end team he is unable to overcome the weaker players around you so doesn't improve your situation. Losing momo to get Laurie was the right choice.

You can't say we would have both next year as momo didn't have a contract for next year.

 

[Needaname]

Shows how bad we've been for a decade when a player like Momers can get so much attention... at almost every other club he's just an okay player but we've got fans talking about him like he's Mal Meninga

Good on him, had a solid season and got his ring. Having him at tigers would've made very little difference this year

His defence would of made a huge difference this season alone, Robinson didn’t want him to leave the Roosters Bellamy wanted him and Clearly also wanted him, but he wasn’t good enough for WT, go figure.

If he was going to play in the middle and make an effort to control the ruck speed than maybe yes but no he wasn’t. Our edges were loose because there was a lack of control by our ruck.
Hard in hindsight to imagine but would an extra year of playing second fiddle hindered or harnessed Daine Laurie? That’s what needs to be considered in the Momo trade argument.

 

[jadtiger]

I just remember him as the guy that missed a relatively easy conversion.


Arguably could have got the Tigers into the 8 too if he didn't shank that relatively easy kick vs the dogs in '19

Momo was not our regular goal kicker and it certainly was not as easy as you make it out to be.I have seen many regular goal kickers miss easier ones than that

 

[twentyforty]

Like to congratulate this guy


Hell of a player

Solid player.
Never should have made that trade.
We only needed to stay patient to get Laurie anyway.

This!
I have been sitting on the fence re Maguire, but not any more.
Maguire asks us all to be patient, "we're building a team, it takes time." The Momirovski trade flies in the face of that.
If we had waited, we would have two good players, not one, next season.
It looks to me like Maguire was chasing some instant gratification instead of patiently building (getting it right) and as a result made a questionable retention decision. The fact that Momirovski can walk straight into the starting 17 of a now premiership side tells me that Maguire missed something there.
That is, of course, unless the decision came from above.

Momoirovski didn't have a contract for nest year.

Oh, Righto. Did we offer him one?

I don't know, but to me getting someone we intend on being a long term part of the squad over to us was more important than keeping a plug and play centre. Momo is a good 1st grade footballer that will do his job in any team he plays in. In a star studded team he is the perfect player as he doesn't chew up you cap and will be reliable. In a bottom end team he is unable to overcome the weaker players around you so doesn't improve your situation. Losing momo to get Laurie was the right choice.

You can't say we would have both next year as momo didn't have a contract for next year.

If you call WT a weaker team, how can it be explained that he scored more tries with us than with any other team?

 

[Needaname]

Like to congratulate this guy


Hell of a player

Solid player.
Never should have made that trade.
We only needed to stay patient to get Laurie anyway.

This!
I have been sitting on the fence re Maguire, but not any more.
Maguire asks us all to be patient, "we're building a team, it takes time." The Momirovski trade flies in the face of that.
If we had waited, we would have two good players, not one, next season.
It looks to me like Maguire was chasing some instant gratification instead of patiently building (getting it right) and as a result made a questionable retention decision. The fact that Momirovski can walk straight into the starting 17 of a now premiership side tells me that Maguire missed something there.
That is, of course, unless the decision came from above.

Momoirovski didn't have a contract for nest year.

Oh, Righto. Did we offer him one?

I don't know, but to me getting someone we intend on being a long term part of the squad over to us was more important than keeping a plug and play centre. Momo is a good 1st grade footballer that will do his job in any team he plays in. In a star studded team he is the perfect player as he doesn't chew up you cap and will be reliable. In a bottom end team he is unable to overcome the weaker players around you so doesn't improve your situation. Losing momo to get Laurie was the right choice.

You can't say we would have both next year as momo didn't have a contract for next year.


If you call WT a weaker team, how can it be explained that he scored more tries with us than with any other team?

Because he was one of our best at doing so.

 

[twentyforty]

Shows how bad we've been for a decade when a player like Momers can get so much attention... at almost every other club he's just an okay player but we've got fans talking about him like he's Mal Meninga

Good on him, had a solid season and got his ring. Having him at tigers would've made very little difference this year

His defence would of made a huge difference this season alone, Robinson didn’t want him to leave the Roosters Bellamy wanted him and Clearly also wanted him, but he wasn’t good enough for WT, go figure.

If he was going to play in the middle and make an effort to control the ruck speed than maybe yes but no he wasn’t. Our edges were loose because there was a lack of control by our ruck.
Hard in hindsight to imagine but would an extra year of playing second fiddle hindered or harnessed Daine Laurie? That’s what needs to be considered in the Momo trade argument.

Is it possible that Cleary always wanted Moma at the Panthers? And his WT experience was always going to be temporary? When Cleary was at WT unlike Maguire, he had total control of the team and recruitment. He’s a good coach with a lot of experience.

 

[Moh]

Love Momers - it ain't always about the flash stuff.

Nobody is saying he would have won us a premiership, but he would have most certainly improved one of our fragile edges.

 

[Needaname]

Shows how bad we've been for a decade when a player like Momers can get so much attention... at almost every other club he's just an okay player but we've got fans talking about him like he's Mal Meninga

Good on him, had a solid season and got his ring. Having him at tigers would've made very little difference this year

His defence would of made a huge difference this season alone, Robinson didn’t want him to leave the Roosters Bellamy wanted him and Clearly also wanted him, but he wasn’t good enough for WT, go figure.

If he was going to play in the middle and make an effort to control the ruck speed than maybe yes but no he wasn’t. Our edges were loose because there was a lack of control by our ruck.
Hard in hindsight to imagine but would an extra year of playing second fiddle hindered or harnessed Daine Laurie? That’s what needs to be considered in the Momo trade argument.

Is it possible that Cleary always wanted Moma at the Panthers? And his WT experience was always going to be temporary? When Cleary was at WT unlike Maguire, he had total control of the team and recruitment. He’s a good coach with a lot of experience.

I wonder if he has full control of recruitment at the panthers? His biggest recruits since he took over was Capewell and Tetavano. I’d estimate costing $400k each. I don’t see him spending $800k for 4 incoming players.
An argument could be made that Tetavano is a better prop than Packer and probably would of been more justified on 800k at the tigers.
Well Capewell rejected the tigers twice; once when Ivan was at the helm. Instead we probably spent that $400k on Robbie Rochoe.
He is a good coach, regardless though he didn’t need to be so reckless with our salary cap.

 

[aturkey]

We are such a stupid club. Momirovski was too good for us. He was vital in many games for Penrith at centre. He's such a quality finisher and was so at our club too.

I completely disagree. Even if we had Laurie and Momirovski playing for us, we would still be finishing between 11-14. Momo is a solid player and has definitely lifted this year behind one of the fittesy and most confident team in recent memory. He wouldn't have been this good for us.

Disagree with what? That we aren't a stupid club? That he wasn't a good finisher? What about my comment was untrue? We had him, a solid player like you said, behind two washed up plodders in BJ Leilua and James Roberts. It's embarrassing. We need hardworking solid outside backs like him at our club, and we let him go to get Daine Laurie a year early, even though we were already getting Laurie. Did Laurie help us finish any higher than the bottom 4? Patience would have kept Momo and we would have gotten Laurie in 2022.

We are not a club in a position to throw away decent players and keep losers. Momo was a good player for us, and shrewd signing off the Roosters, yet we decided he was dispensable.